All of that does make sense and i'm going to drop it because i dont think what im talking about applies directly to JC.
I personally dont care if a guy is poor as long as he can treat me right.

My entire point is that there should be no rational reason to not date. JC says he is shy and takes too long to connect. This is rationalization, which I'm disagreeing with, and I'm proposing that women aren't going to understand our rationale as it doesn't align with theirs, which is my explanation for why his daughter, admin assistant, etc are pressuring him to date anyways (I'm of course not a woman, so that's just my guess),

My premise is that saying "I don't want to date" with no rational reason is valid. If there is a rational reason that men and women can agree on, like the guy knows that he is a disrespectful mysogynist *******, then I suppose that's a viable rationale.

I'm just old, tired, and resigned. I have had two long term relationships, but at my age (64), I'm not looking to go through it all again.

I am shy, and it does take me a long time to connect. And I really do know what I like and what I don't--and that only takes me a short time to figure out, especially the "what I don't" part.

Face it JC,
As they age, single men become increasingly rare and in demand. You will be assimilated.

I'm with you there. I'm not really trying to give you advice or encourage you to do something you don't want. I was just trying to explore differing attitudes.

ill give you some dam advice .. get out of your house and into the market for some fun and stop trying to be pretending to be picky instead of just realizing you are scared. if you see someone that might interest you just ask for a lunch date. after lunch decide if you want to go further. simple as that.

Well yes, at times I feel the same. But it's not like you have to go through all the past to get going again.............So slink out of the catacombs and into the daylight. That's what I did. After all, too much isolation is not healthy. We are a social animal, or so Aristotle said long ago.

Perhaps you should smoke some reefer and then gad about town asking hot gals in yoga pants out for a drink. It's a start.

On a different note, I was going through family history stuff etc. My great-grandmother wrote poetry. We have a small spiral notebook with a number of typewritten poems. In fact on my maternal side of the family there are more than just hints and stabbings at the literary life. My mum had a few poems published in two different books put out by some obscure poetry society that she belong to. There are other gleanings of art and literature and music aspirations within many of my direct relatives. The cultural gene glows freely through my veins. Someday I may use it. Or not.

nice zeno good history. but now you and john need to follow your suit as time is running out. for me too. i just dont have anything else to accomplish i want to achieve. just things to do.

My family history includes prostitution, drug addiction, violent alcoholism, prison, theft, suicides, mental institutions, child molestation, childhood homelessness, abandonment, dis-ownership, and so much more!

I have to say the cultural genes run thick in my veins as well, though they didn't express themselves in me.

I went on a job interview yesterday. It absolutely triggered me. I kept my cool and didn't scream at or lecture the guy. I took the time to cool down during my very fast walk out the door, down the street, to the train station, and back home. I'll pat myself on the back now.

What's dis-ownership?

Family members who outright refuse to acknowledge each other's existence. Cut them off, etc.

its similar to like when use-guys might go into dis-restarunt and get a crappy meal. and you go to dis-owner to let him know what you think.

For some reason, hot girls in yoga pants hold little appeal. Not, no appeal, mind you. Just little.

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Ray,

We talk like dat in Rhode Island, too.

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isnt that the place they measure people density by number per square inch.

I'm going to San Diego on the 17th. I'm having trouble packing.

I'm going to the National Harbor on the 20th. Having no trouble packing.

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just put an extra pair of socks in your purse and your set to go.

I'm not going anywhere. No need to pack.

i wont go to san diego as they wont let me go packing. or they would send me packing.

I'd rather be going to San Diego, but I have nice company for this trip. So, it's okay.

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would you go someplace with bad company?