I live in the tropics, Im aware of the effects of humidity. I don't believe for a second its 90% humidity.

Everywhere gets hot sometimes. It getting really hot on occasion isn't an excuse for being hot.

primanti brothers, it's very overrated

The "average" high is 80%:

http://www.currentresults.com/Weathe...ity-annual.php

Regardless, I'm talking to the dote who thinks I never left Los Angeles.

I used to live in South Florida. I know that is way worse. That sun.

Cleveland has 2 months with average highs (barely) above 80 degrees. lol @ u.

And it's never gotten to 105 degrees in its entire weather-recorded history. lol#2 @ u.

lol @ Cleveland ever being described as hot. The city I live in has literally 6 months* where both the average highs and relative humidity are higher than Cleveland's worst month.

*OK our October is actually .6 degrees cooler than your hottest month, but the average RH is 5.6% higher, which more than makes up for that difference.

Cleveland is cold and a depressing rust belt so yes people there are probably bald, fat, and smoke a lot. But it's not hot, and certainly not 100 degrees with 95% humidity.

Anyway, yes, people should eat less when they are morbidly obese before strapping on ice skates or hiking Half-dome. DUCY?

There are a few that are "tourist" attractions. That would be Jim's (On South Street) and Geno's and Pat's (which are right next to each other). I personally rank them as Pat's first, Geno's 2nd, Jim's a distant third. Jim's chops the meat a lot, which is very popular but I dislike it finely chopped, so it's last on my list.

My personal opinion is the best Cheeseteak and the best Roast Pork sandwich in the city both belong to one place : John's Roast Pork.




DiNic's won best sandwich in America on the food network. They make a mean Roast Pork sandwich, but John's has been around forever and you can't go wrong getting either sandwich. As always, roast pork sandwiches are ordered with sharp provolone and broccoli rabe, there is no better way to order it. Cheesesteaks are purely preference. I get provolone and onions.

Keep in mind after eating either of these sandwiches you probably won't need to eat again for approx 6 hours.

https://encrypted.google.com/search?...eveland%20ohio

Just like every one of your posts. You make a bunch of assumptions and act as if no one know what the **** they are talking about yet you are too full of yourself to do a simple search, or start with a bunch of silly ad hominems about people you don't know from your fat **** coworker. It is just like how you screwed around in my SF TR thread with all this yapping about how I never seen outside of LA, etc, but you missed the entire point of the comparisons I was making...

Actually, it can be done. There is a guy who leads a hiking group and it is very difficult to get through most of them. He was morbidly obese by any definition when he started the group (and has pictures to prove it). Just wanted to challenge himself and get thinner, so he did it.

One of my clients was well north of 250 lbs. So fat, in fact, that I was able to lay the pointed part of my elbow on her and she would sleep through it and not feel a thing. She ended up losing about 30 lbs over the time I knew her and got to the point she felt my elbow. Yeah, she went to the gym and got a personal trainer. She came to see me to get the soreness out and I always encouraged her and told her how proud I was of her progress.

Morbid obesity. Well, whatever, some people do fine for the gym and others don't.

Of course, since I never been out of LA, I'm probably telling a bunch of lies here since I obviously have no notion of what fat is. I must think that a 125 person is 250.

It's blatantly obvious you have no idea about what you are talking about. I work in the energy industry, and I actually work in the PJM zone, which includes Cleveland. Please, stop commenting on things you don't know anything about.

lol @ looking at the hottest days.

This needs to be restated.

There's no amount of exercise you can't eat your way through.

It's very difficult and time consuming to burn off 1000 calories via exercise and trivially easy to eat it.

A fat, hungry person can wolf down a double whopper, fries, and big soda in like 10 minutes. It would take 3 hours of jogging to burn that many calories off.

Exercise is extremely important for health and is an absolutely must, however the additional weight loss from it should be viewed as a nice bonus, rather than the main goal. You exercise primarily so that your muscles, bones, heart, and lungs are strong and work well, important stuff.

However if you're grossly overweight your DIET is by far the dominant factor in how fat you are, not your lack of exercise.

There's tons of really out of shape skinny people that don't exercise but aren't particularly over-fat because they don't regularly over consume calories.

You said 105, not 104.

LOL @ Cleveland being too hot in the summer for people to be outside.

thanks for the response. very interesting vid. i had seen geno on tv and he said if the other guy works 7 days im working 8 if hes working 24 hrs im gona work 30. and i said to myself i like this guy.. that food in your vid looks delicious

also my name is john i wonder if im related or have some stake in the company maybe even part owner

forsure, this just confirms what people have been telling me.. so that makes losing weight even harder lol

Honestly it's better than just delicious. It's hands-down the best sandwich I've ever had anywhere across the country. If you are ever here in Philadelphia, you absolutely have to try it.

When food network did their best sandwich in America show, as soon as I saw the roast pork sandwich I said to my wife "that's going to win", and it did. DiNic's and John's are very close. Great bread, tender, moist roast pork, sharp cheese and flavorful, season broccoli rabe.

Philly may be known for cheesesteaks and soft pretzels, but the king is the roast pork sandwich. Don't get me wrong, there are great sandwiches everywhere, but this hands down the best. If you get a chance, try one.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_R...ich_in_America

It is hot + humid. That is a terrible combination. I can take hot, I can take cold, but adding humidity or windchill makes either unbearable. Weather isn't about the number, it is about how you feel when you are experiencing it in combination with other factors. That is why there are such things as apparent temperatures, such as wind-chill factors and heat indices.

Also, I didn't only point out the heat, I also pointed out the amount of rain there is:

http://www.cleveland.com/datacentral...d_for_jun.html

Cleveland hasn't gone two straight days without rain since early in the month.

That is June, the dog days of summer.

The average high in Miami Florida is 86 degrees in July. The hottest recorded day ever is a whopping 100 degrees. Yep, not hot at all. Must be a bunch of punks down there since people die from heat death, carry umbrellas in the middle of summer, and run towards trees to get from one shady spot to the next. With such low average temperatures, there is no good reason that I ended up with second degree sunburn when I first moved down there.

Could y'all get back on topic here maybe. These weighty issues are way too important to be gassing on about the weather like 70-year old men.

Have y'all noticed how much fat people sweat when it's hot?

Also I agree with pwns about diet being the overwhelming thing instead of exercise. But exercise is good too, and dieting fatties should make sure to eat enough protein so they don't lose too much lean body mass while they're restricting calories.

This sentence makes no sense.

It makes perfect sense....if you're fat.

Not sure why "putting your body through a significant change has an effect on your hormonal balances" makes no sense, but there have been many studies on this issue and researchers have known for many years that certain hormone imbalances can trigger an increase in fat-storage no matter how little calories your body takes in, and they've known that these changes can have ugly effects on maintaining lower weight. I can't be bothered to look for a grip of them, but this is a small and basic one (and possibly misinterpreted by the NYT):

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/27/he...udy-finds.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/01/ma...-fat-trap.html

At that point, the 34 patients who remained stopped dieting and began working to maintain the new lower weight. Nutritionists counseled them in person and by phone, promoting regular exercise and urging them to eat more vegetables and less fat. But despite the effort, they slowly began to put on weight. After a year, the patients already had regained an average of 11 of the pounds they struggled so hard to lose. They also reported feeling far more hungry and preoccupied with food than before they lost the weight.

While researchers have known for decades that the body undergoes various metabolic and hormonal changes while it’s losing weight, the Australian team detected something new. A full year after significant weight loss, these men and women remained in what could be described as a biologically altered state.

One hormone, leptin, which tells the brain how much body fat is present, fell by two-thirds immediately after the subjects lost weight. When leptin falls, appetite increases and metabolism slows.

so they stopped dieting and its unclear that they continued to exercise regularly or eat balanced meals

but its the hormones that are making them regain weight

I think gaining 10 lbs would be beneficial to me.

Healthwise

Yeah, dieting isn't something you stop doing. That's the problem with their thinking.

Yes, but you actually said 105 degrees. I was just pointing out you were wrong.

Even with humidity taken into account (everyone reading this thread has already done that, since, like, we all ****ing understand heat+humidity) Cleveland isn't close to too hot in the summer to do anything outside. Just admit you messed up when you tried to play the "Cleveland is so hot" card and move on.

This isn't widely known, but there's a "Cleveland" factor that adds 10% to the heat/humidity index when it's hot. It's like, ****, it's kinda hot and kinda humid, and I'm in ****ing Cleveland.

That's the most reasonable explanation of Cleveland's supposed inhospitality.