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04-15-2008 , 03:56 PM
Diddy,

I don't know the name, but I know there is pretty recent book concerning the secret wars of the CIA and history of the CIA covering that period. (I may actually be referring to two different books.) I think the book(s) is about the CIA, rather than FBI.
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04-15-2008 , 04:36 PM
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I'm currently reading a biography of Oppenheimer, and I'm becoming real interested in the America of the 1950s with illegal wire taps aplenty, show trials, McCarthyism and all that. I didn't want to start a new thread but does anyone have any suggestions of books concerning this period, and specifically about the illegal measures applied by the FBI under Hoover, McCarthy, or just the general stance of why we used illegal means to implicate people as being un-American?
Naming Names by Victor Navasky

An excellent book on the blacklist.

Here's one of the Amazon customers reviewing it:

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What I found instead was an absolutely and scrupulously fair interpretation of what happened in the McCarthy era and why so many good and talented people betrayed their erstwhile friends. Navasky approaches it as the worst kind of personal moral dilemma: how can you save your career and not betray your deepest personal (and sometimes still political) allegiances.

The cast of characters comes predominently from the truly first rate, for example Jerome Robbins or Elia Kazan. Navassky shows how the struggled with their decision to name names, often convincing themselves that they had to do it to be an ethical person and good american, and then - to his great credit - he explores the shattering psychological repercussions that ensued. These actors in the drama are very human and caught in a dilemma so terrible that I pray I never will face a similar choice. Rather than seek a few weak bad guys, it is an indictment of an entire political system and policial era. Even if you are not convinced by his argument, the reader feels compelled to reflect on it. I certainly did.

Warmly recommended as a profound inquiry into moral choice, placed vividly in historical context. This is a masterpiece.
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04-15-2008 , 11:37 PM
I read the Navasky book in grad school...great read.
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04-16-2008 , 02:23 PM
Thanks for the tips, I'll check them out on Amazon.

I finished the Oppenheimer book last night, here's some of what I wrote about it.
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I guess let me begin by saying that biographies are one of my favorite genres of books, and of those I have read, this is easily the best.

Oppenheimer is best known as being the 'father of the atomic bomb' which is really the only role I knew him as prior to reading this book. Due to this, I was always somewhat skeptical about the man and held him in a pretty negative light, because quite honestly I think it's a perversion of science when it is used to find the most efficient means of wiping out civilian populations. After reading, I found that the mood of the times was that using scientific research in such a manner, while problematic, was ultimately a superior option to conceding America to the Nazis. I guess not living during the 40s, makes it hard for me to realize how large a fear this was.

I had always believed that Oppenheimer became a pariah in the scientific community post-WWII due to his position as Director at Los Alamos. While this may have been the case in some isolated events, the evidence presented in the book does not really back it up. While the generation of scientists that were reared in the post-atomic world might dislike him, at the time there seem to have been few scientists who actively opposed his participation in the project. I think the main reason, and one I had never considered, was the scope of Los Alamos and the fact that aside from Oppenheimer the majority of top American-born (and many who were not) scientists also participated in one way or another with the work carried out there.

After the war, Oppenheimer did much to try to regulate the build-up of atomic caches before they could be mass produced. He, and other top scientists, essentially envisioned the Cold War as it would play out, but a government paralyzed by fear about Communists would not listen and nuclear proliferation ruled the day (and the decade, and the one after that, and a couple of more after that). As a result, he stepped on a few toes, especially those of one extremely vitriolic bastard by the name of Lewis Strauss. Strauss was one of few who disliked Oppenheimer, but I don't think the term 'dislike' can quite sum up his feelings. He seemingly hated Oppenheimer and was hell-bent on ruining his career (which he eventually did at the cost of his own). Around 1955-56, Strauss had managed to buy his way into the position of Chairman of the Atomic Enery Commission, a board of which Oppenheimer was a paid consultant.

At this time the atomic bomb had become passe, and the new thing was the hydrogen bomb. Oppenheimer and many, many other scientists opposed this weapon on the grounds that it could have no role solely as a military weapon. This is the simple truth, as the H-bomb could easily destroy everything within it's blast radius of ~100 miles. This was a weapon that would be used for genocide, and there were quite rightly moral qualms concerning it. Oppenheimer used his status as the nations leading scientist-statesman, not to mention as a paid consultant, to actively oppose the construction of this weapon. Strauss, was incensed at this behavior and eventually managed to drag Oppenheimer before an AEC Board, questioning his loyalty to the country as a way of both public humiliation for his enemy and so that his dissenting views could be pushed to the side.

This AEC Board was no doubt the most eye-opening part of the book. The means Strauss went to from illegally wire-tapping Oppenheimer's, his lawyer's, and friend's homes so that he could see in which direction they would go about fighting the case, not providing the defense with material supplied both to the Board and the prosecutor, choosing the Board so that they would be sympathetic to his cause, and many more egregious examples of unfair and illegal practices made this little more than a show trial, reminiscent of the Soviets we were so scared of. Of course, since he was not presented with a fair and equitable way to provide a defense, Oppenheimer lost the case and his security clearance, a full day before it expired anyway.

This was essentially a public beating, designed solely to break Oppenheimer and it succeeded. Many close friends claimed he was never the same after, withdrawn and disinclined to give his opinion on most any topic. Within a few years he died as possibly the most public victim of McCarthyite hysteria (without actually having been a victim of McCarthy). They used his brain while it suited them, then kicked him to curb in the most humiliating manner possible when they were done.

All in all an excellent read, even though it does break your heart. Let me leave you with a quote about the findings of the AEC Board, concerning Oppenheimer's opposition to the the H-bomb that I just can't shake from my head: "Equating dissent with disloyalty, it called in to question the very definition of advice."
Even though I'm embarrassed to admit it, I'm now reading Tom Clancy's Netforce: Cybernation. It's so ****ing trashy, I love it.
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04-16-2008 , 03:51 PM
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You're right, it sounds like it might be dry. But articles of that type that I've read in the New Yorker have tended to be pretty good reading.
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I read Gawande's first collection and it's far from dry. Gawande deals with problems common to most hopital patients and writes about his own education as a doctor. I also recommend Richard Selzer for another fine writer who is also a surgeon.
I assume you are talking about Complications, to which Better is sort of a sequel. Agreed, its the opposite of dry, he writes in a very accessible, colloquial style, and his goal is to give laypersons some insight into medicine and to sort of break down the stereotypes and myths that doctors know everything, doctors are robots, doctors are confidant, and also to explain why and how medicine is set up to foster specific, habitual mistakes. Really recommend both these books, Complications is better than Better though.
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04-16-2008 , 03:55 PM
Currently reading:

Rapid Interpretation of EKGs by Dale Dubin
Mind of the Market by Michael Shermer
The Appeal by John Grisham

Would probably recommend them in that order, so far.
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04-16-2008 , 06:45 PM
Vanity Fair
William Makepeace Thackeray

According to the introduction this is the first realist novel in the English language and the inspiration for War and Peace. I don’t now about that but I do know it manages to tell an engaging story about characters you care about and can relate to as real people rather then the evil villains and angelic heroes that are staples of other period fiction.
The subtitle “a novel with out a hero” is apt the cast are all flawed but also all redeemed by some quality or action. Thackeray is a cynical humorist who delights in mocking the vanities and petty desires of mankind from great Earls to humble servants, his gentle but biting observations about people’s secret vices and sins stay just the right side of cruelty. I would have liked more emphasis on the arch schemer Becky Sharp and fewer chapters devoted to the simpering Amelia but both are needed to illustrate the full range of human failing. All in all I highly recommend.
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04-16-2008 , 09:20 PM
I went to the used bookstore and bought a bunch of books.

I'm still reading Kinsella's "The Undomestic Goddess" and Proust's "In Search of Lost Time" and Derek Lim's "The Tao of Daily Life" but I opened and read a page or two of Kate Chopin's "The Awakening".

On the back burner: The Dalai Lama's "The Art of Happiness", Carson McMullers "The Heart is a Lonely Hunter", Tracy Chevalier's "Girl with a Pearl Earring", Eiji Yoshikawa's "The Heike Story".
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04-16-2008 , 11:07 PM
I bought a lot of graphic novels today. Currently reading Y: The Last Man by Brian Vaughan and Pia Guerra. Also reading Ex-Machina by Brian K. Vaughan and Tony Harris. I have been reading lots of graphic novels since February and I have been enjoying them very much. Lots of good stuff if one knows where to look.
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04-17-2008 , 04:30 AM
Enrique, check out the El D forum for the comics thread. Good stuff.
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04-17-2008 , 04:54 PM
Just finished The Collector by John Fowles which I would recommend to everyone. It manages to be an engaging psychological thriller without over-egging the part of the psychotic. I was in a state of blank, numb horror by the time I finished it. Excellent read.
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04-17-2008 , 05:05 PM
I loved this book when I first read it. Really gripping.

The movie was good too. Brit beauty Samantha Eggar absolutely awe-inspiringly sexy.
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04-17-2008 , 05:22 PM
I'm about 1/4 of the way into "Blackwater". It is a look at the rise of the military contractor, aka mercenary group, Blackwater. It is an enjoyable read thus far, despite the heavy left wing bias of the writer (which is not as far to the left as the founder of Blackwater Erik Prince's right wing leanings are to the right, dude makes Pat Robertson look like Jeanine Garofolo).

The book has an amusing/annoying practice of insinuating some dark conspiracy behind various actions without ever coming out and saying it. It does this quite well, to the degree that I'll be reading along and think to myself, "holy crap Cheney engineered x for the sole purpose of..." and then I'll realize that the author did it to me again.
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04-17-2008 , 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Splendour
I went to the used bookstore and bought a bunch of books.

I'm still reading Kinsella's "The Undomestic Goddess" and Proust's "In Search of Lost Time" and Derek Lim's "The Tao of Daily Life" but I opened and read a page or two of Kate Chopin's "The Awakening".

On the back burner: The Dalai Lama's "The Art of Happiness", Carson McMullers "The Heart is a Lonely Hunter", Tracy Chevalier's "Girl with a Pearl Earring", Eiji Yoshikawa's "The Heike Story".
that's some impressive reading, there. one of the days I'm going to tackle Proust, as well. I really enjoyed Girl With a Pearl Earring, btw.
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04-17-2008 , 10:00 PM
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that's some impressive reading, there. one of the days I'm going to tackle Proust, as well. I really enjoyed Girl With a Pearl Earring, btw.
I found the title "Girl With a Pearl Earring" very intriguing. I hope the book pans out.
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04-17-2008 , 10:03 PM
I've rarely been tempted to read Ulysses, but often been tempted to read Proust. Give us a trip report if you take a crack at it, Dom.
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04-17-2008 , 10:10 PM
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I've rarely been tempted to read Ulysses, but often been tempted to read Proust. Give us a trip report if you take a crack at it, Dom.
Proust is a bit slow going for me. The entry to Swann's Way launches into this very long winded comparison of the narrator's two different homes while also he's in this funny coming out of sleep consciousness phase before there's even a tad bit of dialogue. I think its quite an unusual writing style. It'll take a while to get used to his longwinded sentences, but once he started on the description of the character Swann things started to flow a bit more smoothly.
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04-18-2008 , 11:28 PM
Aha! I think I just found the history book of all history books. I've read the first 14 pages of it and its simply fascinating. Also its possibly one of the best written history books ever written. Now I have to put all the above books on hold while I dive into this one. It's Max I. Dimont's "Jews, God and History". Amazing. In his preface he outlines the 8 different basic ways of viewing history. One of the views is the "unhistoric" or "anarchic" view as declared by Henry Ford that Dimont tosses out. The "unhistoric" view sees history as a series of blind events.

The rest of the book is to be devoted to the 7 other views: 1) the philosophic view looking at history as a series of purposive events,
2) the economic view which holds economic methods as a determinant force,
3) a psychological view (derived from Freud) giving priority to unconscious drives in civilization,
4) the "great man" theory holding man himself as the creator of historic destiny,
5) the political interpretation view where history is reviewed as a succession of dynasties, laws, battles, strong and weak rulers, wars won or lost and laws good or bad (the typical history presented in schools),
6) the geographic view derived from the Greeks that school, climate and soil determine formation of character and
7) the biblical view of history that looks upon historical events as a struggle between good and evil, morality and immorality (most Jewish history until recent times has been written from this perspective).

I'm really looking forward to this particularly since the writing for a history book appears to of a singularly high calibre.

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04-19-2008 , 01:38 AM
Currently Reading:

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The Transformation of War

Carnage and Culture

Anyone have thoughts/comments on these? FWIW, Van Creveld's "Transformation of War" seems like a must for anyone looking to *really* understand why superpowers struggle in LICs. (Low-Intensity Conflicts).
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04-19-2008 , 10:41 AM
Has anyone read David Markson? If not, both Wiggenstein's Mistress and The Last Novel are fascinating, quick reads. Markson has developed a style all his own--series of facts built up over pages and pages--but his endings pack a punch.
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04-19-2008 , 10:43 AM
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I've rarely been tempted to read Ulysses, but often been tempted to read Proust. Give us a trip report if you take a crack at it, Dom.

Give in to the rare temption to read Ulysses. I've read it twice and long to read it again.
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04-19-2008 , 11:08 AM
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Give in to the rare temption to read Ulysses. I've read it twice and long to read it again.
Question: In either of the times that you read it, did you read Ulysses Annotated along with it? Or is Ulysses Annotated superfluous - i.e., you don't really need to know all of Joyce's allusions and references in order to enjoy the Ulysses itself...
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04-19-2008 , 05:40 PM
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Question: In either of the times that you read it, did you read Ulysses Annotated along with it? Or is Ulysses Annotated superfluous - i.e., you don't really need to know all of Joyce's allusions and references in order to enjoy the Ulysses itself...
I didn't use any of the guides and enjoyed it, but I think next time I go back to it, I may use a guide. In one chapter, Joyce parodies various writers and styles, so I'd like to know more about what he's up to.
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04-19-2008 , 07:06 PM
Just finished reading House of Leaves ............... WOW. By far the most enjoyable book I have ever read. I don't really know what else to say about it, but to convey my love for the book I can say that when I realized I was only 30 pages from the finish I put the book down and waited three days before finishing because I didn't want it to be over.

I ordered Kings of Infinite Space for my next read, but since that didn't come for a few days I began reading The Firestarter by Mr. King. This seems ok, but I am looking forward to a funny read after HOL.

Ken
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04-20-2008 , 01:38 AM
After I get through the books I'm currently reading + Keegan's history of WWI, I'd like to get into Solzhenitsyn. Any advice for what to start with? I do plenty of nonfiction already, so I guess I'm more interested (at least for starters) with his fiction.
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