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El D,

I'd consider the AleSmith barrel aged night (depending on if they release some fun Speedway treatments) and the Eclipse tasting dinner with their head brewer.

Also, maybe a Younger release if you haven't had it. But those are probably insanely busy.

You've chosen the best events though, IMO.

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02-04-2014 , 12:36 PM

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02-04-2014 , 01:05 PM

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Pliny,

Yeah, the beer week Younger events are always a zoo. I know a few places around here that get kegs and keep it on the DL, so I usually manage to have some. I think it is a great beer, but don't think it's as super-amazing as the reviews. It's kinda crazy, just a few years ago it would be on tap and easily available for a couple weeks after release.

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02-04-2014 , 01:13 PM

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Looks like the "Oregon's Finest" event at the Livermore Saloon is going to have Boneyard's Notorious triple IPA. I haven't tried it, but some people I know have said it's the best IPA they've ever had -- better than Younger.

The event is on the same day as the big IPA fest you already posted, and given that there will be plenty of triple IPAs on tap there, maybe they'll have Notorious as well.

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02-04-2014 , 02:26 PM

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Originally I was going to fly out to Russian River for the Pliny release this year, but decided it was too much effort to wait in line for 5 hours for a few pours. Almost a certainty to go to Philly to a couple of events there, or even fly back to Colorado when they get kegs if I can find cheap enough plane flights.

This weekend I'm getting to do a vertical of BCBS and all its variants from when it was first released through this year. Rumor has it someone is bringing a port Double Barrel Damon too so I'm super excited.

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02-05-2014 , 04:37 AM

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alesmith night would be a good one. the smoked beers at the bbq joint would prob be a nice change of pace.

a night of imperial ipas would result in me being three sheets within an hour and unable to discern tastes.

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02-05-2014 , 10:53 AM

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Another craft brewery falls (or rises depending on your POV)

A-B Acquires Blue Point

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02-05-2014 , 05:02 PM

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plaster,

Livermore is like a million miles away, so **** that. However, the Double IPA Festival is going to have both a double and a triple from boneyard!

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Double IPA's

Maui
Firestone Walker
Black Diamond
Rubicon 
Eel River
Knee Deep 
Laguntas
Loomis
Third Street
Bear Republic
Heretic
Noble
Carlsbad Pizza Port
Moylans 
Marin
Hangar 24
Russian River
Mad River
Berryessa
Bison 
Iron Springs
Ninkasi
Boneyard
Saint Archer
Coronado 
Fiigueroa
Green Flash 
Sieera Nevada
Stone
Headlands
Half Moon Bay
Faction
Triple Rock
Speakeasy
Dust Bowl
Monkey Paw
Device
Drakes
Deschutes
Uinta
21A
Highwater
Ballast Point
Port
Fat Heads
Kern River 
Society 
El Segundo
Smog City
Ballast Point
Kinetic
Cellar Maker
Auburn
Old Hangtown
Half Moon Bay
Golden Road
Napa Point
Altamont
Palo Alto
Lost Coast
Napa Smith
Jacks

Triple IPA's

Beachwood
Russian River
Knee Deep
Black Diamond
Heretic
Moylans 
Marin
Carlsbad Pizza Port
Track 7
Berryessa
Iron Springs
Boneyard
Faction
Monkey Paw
Triple Rock
Speakeasy
Dust Bowl
Device
Drakes
Kinetic
El Segundo
Manzanita
Altamont
Auburn
Smaltz
21A

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02-06-2014 , 05:43 PM

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if anyone is looking to trade away heady topper/pliny the elder PM me or post in here and LMK what you want. I could probably get Three Floyds stuff, zombie dust, dreadnaught etc etc in exchange

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02-06-2014 , 09:26 PM

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I'm going to be in San Jose next Monday-Thursday visiting a friend and am looking to do something for beer week. We are free all day Tuesday and were thinking of going to Russian river early and then trying to hit a brewery or an event on the way back. Anyone have any experience going there and can give me advice or should I skip the pliny madness for something better?

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02-06-2014 , 09:45 PM

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Sponger,

Depends how much you love the Younger! http://russianriverbrewing.com/pliny...unger-release/ has info on what to expect.

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02-06-2014 , 10:00 PM

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Heading to Long Beach in a few weeks, looking forward to getting my hands on some Russian River - heard Beachwood BBQ is the place to go.

They have a raffle to get Pliny the Younger:

And one hell of a bottle list

http://beachwoodbbq.com/pdf/bottled_beer_list_lb.pdf

Recommendations, plan of attack? Plan to go two consecutive nights, likely trying 3-4 per night.

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02-06-2014 , 10:24 PM

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02-06-2014 , 10:51 PM

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Having a St-Ambroise - Russian Imperial Stout atm, it's phenomenal. It's rich with espresso and chocolate flavours. mmmmm

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02-07-2014 , 01:36 AM

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Another craft brewery falls (or rises depending on your POV)

A-B Acquires Blue Point

meh, no big loss....blue point is pretty withered. Haven't posted much here but If anyone on West coast or in Mid west is interested in acquiring anything from New England Brewing co I'm super close to the brewery and am always interested in trades.

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/357/

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02-07-2014 , 01:39 AM

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Can someone explain the basic mechanics of beer trades to me? I thought there were restrictions on shipping beer especially across state lines especially when one of those states is MA. EG I plan to go up to Vermont and buy an ass ton of Heady Topper etc sometime soon and would trade for other stuff but I don't know the legality or even if the beer survives to be honest?

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02-07-2014 , 01:48 AM

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Not sure how widely available this is, but if you see it, buy it! It's amazing.....Beautifully made saison aged briefly in Abbaye de Saint Bon Chien barrels to give it a hint of sourness. One of the best things I have had in a while.

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02-07-2014 , 04:52 AM

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In my experience always do Fed Ex, they ask next to no questions and I've had much success with shipments so far. If they do ask, tell them they are olive oils

. Not sure which states do allow shipping and from which other states (it varies a lot I think) but I've never stated that I'm shipping beer

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02-07-2014 , 06:03 AM

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Bad beat - Aces and Ales is having a barrel-aged beerfest on 2/14, I will be out of town. FML

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02-07-2014 , 09:37 AM

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For beer shipping/trading, using USPS is illegal while FedEx and UPS is just against their terms of service.

I could go into more but this link is the definitive beer shipping guideline.

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02-07-2014 , 10:53 AM

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For beer shipping/trading, using USPS is illegal while FedEx and UPS is just against their terms of service.

I could go into more but this link is the definitive beer shipping guideline.

I've seen this asserted many times, but I don't believe it. I think shipping alcohol over state lines (and possibly within the state) without a license is illegal, regardless of how you ship it. I think that, in practical terms, you're less likely to face any criminal action from UPS and FedEx if they find alcohol (they'll just return the box, have you pick it up, or destroy it rather than contacting authorities). So I think there are some practical reasons to use UPS and FedEx rather than USPS. But I don't think there's any legal distinction.

That's why I refuse to do any trading that requires shipping - the risk of a really bad outcome is very small, but the costs potentially very high. And I don't feel like playing Pascal's Wager.

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02-07-2014 , 10:59 AM

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Both methods are definitely illegal, I didn't mean that UPS/FedEx are exempt. I was just saying (like you stated) that USPS there are potential legal repercussions while UPS/FedEx will just return/confiscate the box if it is found.

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02-07-2014 , 11:18 AM

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just got these last night, almost talked the guy to giving me the last bottles of hopslam as well but he told me he would sell them to me next time I cam in...

I have had the BC before but never tried the firestone

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02-07-2014 , 02:30 PM

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I think in practice, you would need to run really, really bad to fun into legal problems from shipping beer. bad outcomes might be

- broken bottles
- confiscated box (pretty unlikely)

but the Feds showing up seems veeeeeeery unlikely. unless you start sending kegs around

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02-07-2014 , 02:42 PM

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Sponger,

Depends how much you love the Younger! http://russianriverbrewing.com/pliny...unger-release/ has info on what to expect.

not enough to wait 8 hours because I should be able to get it a week later, but it could be a fun experience drinking it at the brewery.

this thread has some good info from people who went the last few years
http://beeradvocate.com/community/th...r-2014.143151/

looks like i'll just have wait and see how the lines are and whether i'll have better options that day.

also more info
http://www.pressdemocrat.com/article...cles/140209708

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