Interview with the woman who interviewed Jay: http://observer.com/2014/12/heres-ho...rst-interview/

So it was an imam who turned Adnan in. Maybe Jay, the real killer, bought off the imam! What a twist.

That interview paints a funny/sad picture of Koenig sitting there extremely uncomfortable in the home of a black man. The whole podcast and the popularity of it is kind of ludicrous after reading Jay's interactions with this woman. She makes veiled threads, which perhaps fueled her own neurosis. And she describes explosive new evidence, which never materialized. Textbook example for how never to do investigative journalism.

I've started listening to the final episode again, here's a quote from SK:

"We've always said that Adnan was over the break up. It had been a month already. Just for argument's sake, let's say he wasn't over it."

This is a great example of how she has been leading her audience the whole time. There is absolutely no way of knowing whether Adnan was over her. She just assumes because he said so and because he was seeing other girls or whatever which isn't evidence of anything.

Koenig has no responsibility for what other stupid people do with her story.

There is literally no better reason than potentially freeing a falsely convicted person. As the adage goes it's better to free 100 guilty people than to convict one innocent one.

Finally she had no idea it would be this popular. I'm sure she expected it to have 50,000 listeners max which would have be par for most podcasts.

He may have been "over" Hae but he was still in regular contact with her right up until she disappeared, at which point he completely coincidentally never called her again.

She goes on in that segment to say they had broken up before and gotten back together, etc.

Well exactly, it had happened before but now she had started seeing this other guy she was crazy about so the finality of it all hit him like a truck. This is basically stereotypical behavior for jealous males, they want to be in control over women and when they realize they aren't anymore they want to destroy what they can't have.

It's hard to believe Koenig doesn't know this.

Listening to the podcast and then reading Jay's interview may have just turned me into a conservative, lol. Everytime I look at Koenig's picture now I just think she could not possibly look more like the naive, idealistic, emotional, self-serving liberal she is.

Adnan: How dare you bring up the stealing from the mosque thing, so unfair! I'm so upset!

How dare you think I'm nice and that you know me. I'm so upset!

Adnan: no I'm not mad at Jay at all for, at a bare minimum, covering up the murder of someone I loved and then framing me for it. Have only myself to blame for being a bad Muslim.

Koenig: Adnan you are so deep and complicated, I think I love you, um, I mean I think you are innocent. Hurrdurr.

Spot on, Pwn_Master.

Koenig: would Jay not wanting to snitch and being afraid of the police because of some pot and general distrust of authority (haven't we all smoked pot, haha) really explain his inconsistencies? Doesn't really make sense from my perspective as a white, privileged liberal from an upper class background.

Jay: don't all you white people love the Wire? Yeah, that was my reality.

If only she had said anything even remotely like your "witty" post you might have a point.

Pre 9/11 did anyone even care about what Muslims were doing? The muslim community was scared to talk, which I could understand post 9/11 but what about pre?

Adan's inability to say what he was doing that afternoon between like 3-5pm has also bothered me. He is like "That was 15 years ago, like I don't know, I just don't know" Wtf do you mean you don't know? If you're innocent I'd probably have some sort of explanation. What has he been thinking about for the last 15 years?

Also, how common is it for someone to admit to being an accessory to a murder and get no time at all?

I read it the way kos did. The question through 11 episodes was 'did he do it or not?' It only shifts in the last episode when she realizes she can't answer that question satisfactorily, and instead offers (almost apologetically) a conclusion that there is reasonable doubt and that she would vote to acquit.

He's an accessory after the fact, so it would've been like 1-2 years or something. Also would've ruined his life. Guess it depends on your perspective as to whether you think that is deserved. I'd say the state's larger concern is making sure the murderer is removed from society.

This is from Rabia Chaudry's blog:

Sarah seemed to pay little attention to this. It makes me quite curious what the prosecutor actually said in court and I can also see where Rabia is coming from. To hear the jury being manipulated like this must definitely have felt like a great injustice.

I can't remember which episode it is, but koenig talks about this at length and even quotes the prosecutor, iirc.

Damn I didn't pay enough attention obviously. I remember her talking about the Muslim issue but she seemed to kind of shrug it off IIRC. Like.. yeah, I don't know... not sure if that played a part.

If you are Rabia and watching that unfold I bet it's infuriating and you may very well convince yourself that that played a big part in the jury coming to their conclusion.

This was one of my main takeaways as well, although we're obviously speculating based on the limited information available. But if he did it, just somewhere else and later in the day, then all the apparent inconsistencies start to evaporate. In that scenario, based on the podcast Jay is bull****ting about the time and location without apparent motive. But in his own words, the fear of facing significant repercussions related to his own drug dealing seem plausible.

I agree with others that the podcast is fascinating for reasons other than the "whodunit" angle, which ultimately is unfulfilled. It's interesting to see Sarah's struggle with her own bias and blind spots, and it's interesting to see how the legal system is so fragile and subject to juror irrationality, lawyer incompetence, and law enforcement obsession with building a case in lieu of seeking truth.

iirc he still had to plead guilty to that and it was a felony conviction which is still on his record unless he was able to have it expunged since then. The deal was for no jail time.

People harping on the fact that he didn't call "her" after the disappearance are unreal tilting. She didn't have a cell phone. He obviously would have heard about her being found almost instantly if she got found. Calling her house would have been nothing but annoying/insulting to her parents.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/6310118?utm_hp_ref=tw

Thought this was a good read

this.

It used to be listenable to back in the early 2000's, but NPR, and TAL has become so politicized it has gone from entertaining to complete noise sewage.

came here to post this.

Makes a solid case that Koernig is purposely twisting public opinion against Jay/ for Adnan as much as possible.

Koenig's reputation for journalist integrity is far beyond repair at this point.

Maybe she was always going only for entertainment value and she had no intention of mainaining any degree of integrity.

Massively scummy thing to do when the reputations of several people hang in the balance.

If by "her reputation is beyond repair" you mean the podcast is being heralded widely as brilliant investigative journalism by nearly the entire journalism world and has become a cultural touchstone of 2014, then ok good point. She really is in trouble!

really?

Not talking to Koenig is the right move here. She is going to edit his interview into whatever makes him look the most suspicious. But to cooperate with someone's who's motives are so blatantly biased is beyond ******ed.