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03-27-2011 , 07:39 PM

#1001

Dominic

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Originally Posted by Enrique

The actress in Un Coeur en Hiver is beautiful. Wow.

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Originally Posted by Clovis8

She kind of reminds of the chick from the O.C., especially in that last picture.

she was also the female lead in the first Mission Impossible.

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03-27-2011 , 07:59 PM

#1002

hotdogfallacy

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Originally Posted by ValarMorghulis

Storytelling hasn't changed. But filmmaking, come on. All the technological advances in what you can show.

To be honest I am pretty ignorant on this subject. It just seems to me that while the special effects and some things have changed, the tools needed to tell a basic story haven't changed that much and most movies were told 80 years ago, the same way they are told now.

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Why do you think there is less talent? There is surely so many more indie films now. So many dedicated people who couldn't get a chance in previous times. Also more great foreign films lately, whereas previously Hollywood and the major studios dominated so much. I'm sure there must be a hell of a lot of more films made now, which by weight of numbers should give a greater chance of better movies and of better talent coming through. (Unless there is a stronger force to stifle or misdirect the talent?)

IMO A lot of it had to do with the nature of the business and the way the Hollywood studio system worked then, vs the way things are now. Films used to be a medium geared much more towards adults than they are now and the directors were allowed to take chances, because they created movies at a big volume.

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03-27-2011 , 08:41 PM

#1003

wavegoodbye

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Wrestling with what to take here, but i'm gonna go with my favorite crime/noir/gangster movie of the 1990's i rank it in the same class as any of that genre that have gone thus far...

Spoiler:

Picks:
1. Rushmore
2. The Thin Red Line
3. Babe
4. The Ice Storm
5. Run Lola Run
6. When We Were Kings
7. A Perfect World
8. Carlito's Way

Last edited by wavegoodbye; 03-27-2011 at 08:48 PM.

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03-27-2011 , 08:49 PM

#1004

Clovis8

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Sean Penn is so awesome in that.

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03-27-2011 , 09:03 PM

#1005

D1iabol1cal

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I was so close to taking Carlito's Way last round. Nice pick.

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03-27-2011 , 09:41 PM

#1006

Dominic

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Pick # 8:

The Grifters, Stephen Frears, 1990

If The Limey is like a Jim Thompson pot-boiler, The Grifters actually is a Jim Thompson pot-boiler.

This is a nasty, nasty movie. It's got Angelica Huston as a mother who manipulates her con-man son, John Cusack, with her sexuality. The whole film is chock-full of cons, heists, lies, back-stabbing, infanticide, you name it. And it's all gloriously entertaining. Huston, Cusack, Annette Benning, Pat Hingle, Charles Napier and the lat, great, JT Walsh are all magnificent. It also features one of the darkest endings to a movie I've ever seen.

Seriously, Huston plays a black widow that makes any other femme fatale in film history look like Goldilocks.

You'll never look at oranges the same way again.

*****

My picks:

Trois Coleurs Trilogy
Reservoir Dogs
The Piano
The Player
Heavenly Creatures
Hard Boiled
The Limey
The Grifters

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03-27-2011 , 09:45 PM

#1007

Clovis8

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The Grifters is so awesome. It's my favorite Benning performance.

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03-27-2011 , 09:46 PM

#1008

wavegoodbye

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yeah much love for grifters, almost took it with my last pick as well, you're list so far might be my fave... tho ive yet to wtach heavenly creatures.

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03-27-2011 , 09:56 PM

#1009

Dominic

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That was my hardest pick yet. I have about 9 films I could've chosen there.

Still can't believe some of the films not yet picked.

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03-27-2011 , 10:13 PM

#1010

itsasexywaytoCRAI

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Yeah this round it's been hard to choose for me as well, since vixticator took Safe and then suddenly I have a lot of possible choices since i was pretty sure I'd get that one, and I only have 6 picks in total. And yeah, a whole bunch of good films left, both american and foreign. Anyways, I pick Close-up since then I get a documentary (well, sort of), and since I run bad on when it comes to me it's very late here and I'll have to do write-up and such tomorrow.

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03-27-2011 , 10:18 PM

#1011

fds

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Originally Posted by itsasexywaytoCRAI

great pick and so super close to sniping me.

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03-27-2011 , 10:19 PM

#1012

The Brickie

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I never even thought of Carlito's Way for this. For some reason I thought it was 80's. Awesome film regardless.

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03-27-2011 , 11:15 PM

#1013

vixticator

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Originally Posted by Dominic

You have to be aware of and understand what came before...and know why those classic films are so special. It's a progression. You can't have Goodfellas without The Godfather, and you can't have The Godfather without White Heat.

sure you can

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03-27-2011 , 11:16 PM

#1014

wavegoodbye

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Originally Posted by The Brickie

I never even thought of Carlito's Way for this. For some reason I thought it was 80's. Awesome film regardless.

a lot of people overlook it, i think they just assume it's scarface part 2, when it's completely different, just similar subject matter i guess...

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03-28-2011 , 09:54 AM

#1015

Enrique

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Did anyone PM bonsaltron that it was his turn. It's been almost 12 hours, maybe he should be skipped to vixticator.

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03-28-2011 , 12:14 PM

#1016

itsasexywaytoCRAI

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Ah sorry, I forgot to send PM again.

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03-28-2011 , 01:08 PM

#1017

John Cole

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My Picks:

Trois Coleurs Trilogy
Reservoir Dogs
The Piano
The Player
Heavenly Creatures
Hard Boiled

I like the last two picks quite a bit. Doubt too many have seen Heavenly Creatures, but it's an intriguing film.

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03-28-2011 , 01:11 PM

#1018

John Cole

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Originally Posted by Clovis8

Magnolia is sick value at this point.

Would have been my first pick.

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03-28-2011 , 01:19 PM

#1019

John Cole

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Originally Posted by Dominic

That's fine. But if you don't see the progression of how the Mafia and mob-based characters were treated in films from the 70s through the 80s (thanks to the Godfather), and then after Goodfellas in the 90s, that's what seems silly to me.

Before The Godfather, mobsters were usually treated in an "all-bad" light, ala White Heat. With The Godfather, they began to be treated in a more humane, more balanced light. Albeit, with somewhat of a noble and tragic air about them. With Goodfellas, you get the more realistic view of what they are probably like - human, but barbaric and buffoonish at the same time. Almost like someone to be pitied and laughed at.

Just because you don't see it doesn't mean it's not there.

Sort of like what All the President's Men did for politicians.

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03-28-2011 , 01:44 PM

#1020

bonsaltron

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I might get some haters mad but I'm taking the best comedy available imo:

Spoiler:

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03-28-2011 , 01:46 PM

#1021

Dominic

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ugh

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03-28-2011 , 01:49 PM

#1022

bonsaltron

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like 5 turns left, i'm going for personal taste over value now. i can afford it w/ the magnolia +ev from last round. but Mrs Doubtfire is my favorite available, I can think of at least 3 others that people might consider better value but f*** it this was a hilarious movie