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Too many film snobs itt

Goodfellas is a great film but not personal fave of the first 7 drafters

It's not like it went 18th

Too much talk of invalidity or illegitimacy because x movie dropped 3 places too far

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03-19-2011 , 02:07 PM

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I understand Kill Bill vol 1 and 2 being taken together, cause it was shot as one movie; but the color trilogy is really three different movies, three different stories, with different actors etc.. and no way are one

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03-19-2011 , 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Dominic

Why? Look at the 2000 draft - LOTR -all three - were picked number one.

The color series really is one film. Seems fair to me especially since I was planning to do the same.

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03-19-2011 , 02:09 PM

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Nicholasp27

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Originally Posted by Dominic

Clovis, it really sucks that AGAIN you've got two picks in between mine.

impossible to avoid in a snake draft...

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03-19-2011 , 02:09 PM

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fds

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I'm fightin with ya

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03-19-2011 , 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by hotdogfallacy

Sorry, you're wrong. They were shot one after the other, as one film - thematically if not completely narratively. And actually, they DO have the same actors in it. Watch it again. Just because in one two of them are the stars and the others are extras doesn't mean its not the same story. That's the whole point of the movies.

Hell, even the title of the movies are the same as Kill Bill - only being differentiated by color.

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03-19-2011 , 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicholasp27

impossible to avoid in a snake draft...

sure it is....I get to pick twice before most of the draft gets to pick twice. But Clovis picks twice before I do.

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03-19-2011 , 02:14 PM

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doesn't even matter; the rule allowing people to get 3 movies in one pick is stupid

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03-19-2011 , 02:15 PM

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i'm fine with colors trilogy, but I can also see the argument against it

lotr and kill bill were both one story, just broken up for money/length reasons (lotr was originally written as one book but broken up for sales reasons by publisher)

the color trilogy is same writers, different main actors and characters and stories...even different themes, even if they are tied together by the motto

i may as well say i take bourne trilogy or matrix trilogy as those have stronger tie

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03-19-2011 , 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Dominic

Indeed.

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03-19-2011 , 02:16 PM

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Nicholasp27

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Originally Posted by Dominic

sure it is....I get to pick twice before most of the draft gets to pick twice. But Clovis picks twice before I do.

and then you get to pick twice before he does next...

tell me what positions you could be in to avoid this scenario

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03-19-2011 , 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by hotdogfallacy

doesn't even matter; the rule allowing people to get 3 movies in one pick is stupid

waaaaah.

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03-19-2011 , 02:18 PM

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Dominic

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Originally Posted by Nicholasp27

and then you get to pick twice before he does next...

tell me what positions you could be in to avoid this scenario

lol...I know, I'm just complaining because we have very similar tastes. I assume if I didn't pick Trois Coleurs first, he would've picked it with one of his first two.

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03-19-2011 , 02:20 PM

#264

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w/ever u get one pretty good movie in Blue, one ok movie in Red and a piece of crap in White. now i at least have more options to draft things that were shot in one piece.

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03-19-2011 , 02:23 PM

#265

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i get BRILLIANCE, Sir! And I'm pretty sure even if I did get sniped with this one, I would've been able to get Kieslowski's UNDRAFTED. No way I could let this draft go without picking a work from who I consider the greatest filmmaker who has ever lived.

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03-19-2011 , 02:23 PM

#266

hotdogfallacy

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iyo

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03-19-2011 , 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Dominic

lol...I know, I'm just complaining because we have very similar tastes. I assume if I didn't pick Trois Coleurs first, he would've picked it with one of his first two.

It was two on my draft. My one will not be a surprise either.

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03-19-2011 , 02:26 PM

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Never seen the trilogy but presumed Dominic would take it, as I remember he had it very high in his best movies of all time list a while back.

Will have to check it out soon, this is why I'm really looking forward to the rest of this draft, especially the later rounds, as my knowledge of 90s movies is really poor compared to the 2000s, so hoping to find some real classics to watch.

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03-19-2011 , 02:39 PM

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Wait - people got all 3 LOTR movies in the '00 draft? LOL

What is that like $300 Million + worth of budgeted film in 1 pick? lol.

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03-19-2011 , 02:51 PM

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Colors Trilogy is clearly one pick and I was going under that assumption before the draft started. I was torn for my #2 pick between Fargo/Colors/Goodfellas, and if I would have picked Colors, I would have taken all 3 as one movie.

The reason I think this is or at least in my case, since the movie(s) are not American, when I and I'm assuming many of you were exposed to the movie(s) it was the trilogy as a whole. So I have always considered it one movie, as that is how it was presented to me and available to me.

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03-19-2011 , 02:55 PM

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the rules were that if the films told the same story/were thematically similar, with the same general filmmakers/cast, then it would count as one pick. LOTR, Pirates and Kill Bill qualified...but if they were just sequels with the same main guy but telling the same story...it would not qualify. Like, say....Pirates OTC...that on'es kind of close, actually.

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03-19-2011 , 02:56 PM

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We can at least all agree The Matrix doesn't count as a trilogy, right? I mean, not even if they were all in the same decade.

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03-19-2011 , 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeth

We can at least all agree The Matrix doesn't count as a trilogy, right? I mean, not even if they were all in the same decade.

The chances of the others being drafted are around 0.

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03-19-2011 , 03:01 PM

#274

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thematically similar is really vague, might as well drafted all other movies the director made in the decade.

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03-19-2011 , 03:02 PM

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I might be the only person not loving Unforgiven.
I thought it was good but not one of my favorites.

I love Goodfellas and if I had put in more thought, I probably would have taken it over The Matrix. But, Goodfellas being the 7th pick does not mean it isn't in most people's top 5. It is in my top 5, but I only pick once in the first round. Same with the others.

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