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10-17-2018 , 04:27 PM
Foldin, I will as soon as you adopted my most important conservative value - tolerance. You have been hanging out with too many lefties who are always too quick to judge and try to shut people down.
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10-17-2018 , 04:42 PM
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10-17-2018 , 05:05 PM
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10-17-2018 , 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by bahbahmickey
I'm not sure where you are getting the 3/4 of the crowd clapped. I think the number is closer to 3/15 and at least 1 of the 3 isn't even looking at him. I listened to that speech 5 times and still couldn't understand those last 3 words, but I assume you are right that is what he said.

It seems like a natural instinct that when someone is done speaking to clap for them no matter how poor they did - especially if others are clapping. (... this assumes they didn't catch the heil.)
You failed to mention that just because he's a nazi doesn't mean he's wrong 100% of the time.
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10-17-2018 , 05:10 PM
They are good people too.
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10-17-2018 , 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by bahbahmickey
Foldin, I will as soon as you adopted my most important conservative value - tolerance. You have been hanging out with too many lefties who are always too quick to judge and try to shut people down.
Your level is bad and your should feel bad.
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10-17-2018 , 11:57 PM
I enjoy seeing conservatives try to co-opt “tolerance” like they aren’t the party of wide spread sexism, racism, and bigotry. But because people on the left call them out on these things, it’s not being tolerant of their sexism, racism, bigotry. The left calling them out is the real problem.. meanies.
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10-18-2018 , 12:23 AM
It's funny because we always assume people are falling on the left to right spectrum. People in line with the right are clearly on the right, but people who disagree with the right are always categorized as "left."

Let me explain something to you: I am not left, I am just anti-conservative.
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10-18-2018 , 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Slighted
I enjoy seeing conservatives try to co-opt “tolerance” like they aren’t the party of wide spread sexism, racism, and bigotry. But because people on the left call them out on these things, it’s not being tolerant of their sexism, racism, bigotry. The left calling them out is the real problem.. meanies.
I enjoy seeing liberals labeling individual conservatives as somehow who stereotypes other because of their race or sexual preference and then they get upset when they get called out on being wrong.

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It's funny because we always assume people are falling on the left to right spectrum. People in line with the right are clearly on the right, but people who disagree with the right are always categorized as "left."

Let me explain something to you: I am not left, I am just anti-conservative.
Cool story.
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10-18-2018 , 12:20 PM
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I enjoy seeing liberals labeling individual conservatives as somehow who stereotypes other because of their race or sexual preference and then they get upset when they get called out on being wrong.
The problem with your statement is I’m not wrong. Voting for and supporting trump is condoning sexism, racism, and bigotry. You condone those things as a trump supporter. You have no argument against that because there is no argument against it.

And that’s ok. It’s your god given American right to be a piece of ****. But it’s also our god given American right to make sure you never forget it or wiggle out from under it through “but some tax cuts.” “But she had emails..” “but the economy is still on its ten year+ upward trajectory”...
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10-18-2018 , 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Slighted
The problem with your statement is I’m not wrong. Voting for and supporting trump is condoning sexism, racism, and bigotry. You condone those things as a trump supporter. You have no argument against that because there is no argument against it.

And that’s ok. It’s your god given American right to be a piece of ****. But it’s also our god given American right to make sure you never forget it or wiggle out from under it through “but some tax cuts.” “But she had emails..” “but the economy is still on its ten year+ upward trajectory”...
If you supported bill Clinton you supported a white man in power taking advantage of that power over a younger woman that worked for him. If you cheer for the steelers or buccaneers you support rape. If you cheered for the patriots a couple years ago or the ravens yeas ago you support murder....blah...blah...blah.

Think about what you are saying. Not only are people that don't vote the way you did are wrong but they are also terrible people. That is a pretty disgusting thought.

You can call me sexist, racist and a bigot all you want but I believe every race, both sexes and nearly every large group of people are better off under trump than hillary.
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10-18-2018 , 01:37 PM
mickey greatly exemplifies why caring about politics is rather fruitless
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10-18-2018 , 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by bahbahmickey
You can call me sexist, racist and a bigot all you want
You're racist, sexist, and a bigot.
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10-18-2018 , 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by bahbahmickey
If you supported bill Clinton you supported a white man in power taking advantage of that power over a younger woman that worked for him. If you cheer for the steelers or buccaneers you support rape. If you cheered for the patriots a couple years ago or the ravens yeas ago you support murder....blah...blah...blah.

Think about what you are saying. Not only are people that don't vote the way you did are wrong but they are also terrible people. That is a pretty disgusting thought.

You can call me sexist, racist and a bigot all you want but I believe every race, both sexes and nearly every large group of people are better off under trump than hillary.
Yeah none of those are equivalent but you are almost at the point.

And to your last point, yes you are a sexist, racist, and a bigot, and as you pointed out not particularly intelligent if you truly believe those things, because there is no evidence any of that is true. There is quite a bit of evidence that the opposite is true.

Politics with trump have come to the point that yes I’m quite comfortable telling people that support him that they are terrible people. You may be better off under trump, hell, I’m probably better off personally under trump as a white male attorney, but it’s laughable to try and argue that everyone is. It’s entirely untenable. You’re bad and should feel bad, etc..
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10-19-2018 , 12:15 AM
I wonder what it would be like if we all put david negus and bahbahmickey on ignore. Probably a much better thread.

I say we give it a go!
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10-19-2018 , 12:42 AM
negreanu for pres
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10-19-2018 , 11:06 AM
I enjoy the hand waving from the left that supporting bill is so different than supporting trump.

I know I've said this at least 20 times on 2+2 but it needs to be repeated: I don't think trump is a good person.

I think in 20 years we look back at the widespread liberal idea that most trump supporters are racist, sexist or even bad people will be the most cringe worthy political thought of the last 50 years.
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10-19-2018 , 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by bahbahmickey
I enjoy the hand waving from the left that supporting bill is so different than supporting trump.

I know I've said this at least 20 times on 2+2 but it needs to be repeated: I don't think trump is a good person.

I think in 20 years we look back at the widespread liberal idea that most trump supporters are racist, sexist or even bad people will be the most cringe worthy political thought of the last 50 years.
I'd have thought it would be that people would look back to the 2010s and cringe that America found it acceptable that we elect someone who openly admits he sexually assaults people to be president (effectively saying you shouldn't be punished for sexual assault and that it's all okay).

You know, the way we cringe now when we look back at people that used to have slaves and thought it was okay.
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10-19-2018 , 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by bahbahmickey
I enjoy the hand waving from the left that supporting bill is so different than supporting trump.

I know I've said this at least 20 times on 2+2 but it needs to be repeated: I don't think trump is a good person.

I think in 20 years we look back at the widespread liberal idea that most trump supporters are racist, sexist or even bad people will be the most cringe worthy political thought of the last 50 years.
I do not believe that this is a level, but I do believe that you are ignorant enough to think that people will just blatantly disregard the travesty that is the current administration.
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10-19-2018 , 08:31 PM
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10-20-2018 , 03:19 PM
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I'd have thought it would be that people would look back to the 2010s and cringe that America found it acceptable that we elect someone who openly admits he sexually assaults people to be president (effectively saying you shouldn't be punished for sexual assault and that it's all okay).

You know, the way we cringe now when we look back at people that used to have slaves and thought it was okay.
Nah it’s that people look back and cringe at how mean the progressives were to the conservatives that had slaves. And at how mean the progressives were to the conservatives that just wanted to keep segregation.. Don’t you know??
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10-20-2018 , 03:53 PM
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Nah it’s that people look back and cringe at how mean the progressives were to the conservatives that had slaves. And at how mean the progressives were to the conservatives that just wanted to keep segregation.. Don’t you know??
There were slaves and segregation in 1988? I apologize for saying that half the country calling the other half bad people would be the most cringeworthy 30 years ago. Obviously slavery and segregation are much worse than widespread bullying of 1/2 the population based upon their political beliefs.
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10-20-2018 , 04:35 PM
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10-20-2018 , 05:37 PM
De facto segregation isn't a thing anymore, huh bahbah?
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10-20-2018 , 06:36 PM
The sheer amount of “I’m the real victim here..” from conservatives is mind boggling. Not the legal asylum seekers who’s families are being ripped apart at the border, not the poor people that are losing access to healthcare, not the millions of women who are being shutout from deciding what to do about their own reproductive health care, not the hundreds of thousands of people that are being systematically disenfranchised so that they have no voice in the government that’s ruling them...

BUT NO. The real victim, the victim who history will look back on kindly and say we should have been nicer to is SURELY the conservative male trump supporter. I’m sorry you will have to wait until 30 yrs down the road for your acclaim.



Until then I’ll just keep calling them racist, sexist, unintelligent bigots.
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