Absolutely some of PUA is a scam. I'm writing a long ass post about it all now and after you read it, let me know what you think. If you still believe it's a scam then I'm happy to engage you in civil discourse on the subject and address your thoughts/concerns.

I guess the whole PUA thing works, but it's just too much IMO. I can't really see myself getting as into it as you and just ... I read this thread and all you're talking about and just can't see myself making a thread like this and talking about these things and having lingo for these different things and all that.

i tought AA had 12 steps

F5

hi, how's your night going?

****er stole my line!

What do you like Mayo?

can you coach me please

london is a nice city

Have gay sex with me sir. I "click" with you on so many levels.

OK, but I only go one way. Back and to the left. Back... and to the left.

Ill be JFK you can be the govenor and it all never happened.

Bond,

Whats your experiences using patters. I just started reading fastseduction and am a little confused on how they are applied. From what I gathered its a lot of asking them "how does that make you feel"? and finding out what they like. But asking them "how does that make you feel" seems a little bit creepy.

Example:
Use linguistic patterns to achieve this. If she talks about the need for respect, say something like "what if... we were living in a different dimension... or a different planet... and in that planet... everything you see, is everything you want to see... and in that place... you see all the people, giving you all the respect you ever wanted... now doesn't that feel nice?"

I could be misinterpreting this completely. Interesting thread so far thanks for sharing.

What you're discussing here is what's known as NLP, and it's something I've never used and have near zero experience with.

do u feel that masturbating results in a worse game?

Prob the opposite. Jerk off regularly and you're going to be more chilled out and non reactionary towards getting sex. Also means that when you get laid after a dry spell you aren't insta busting.

I've studied NLP but to me the problem is your either going to be really good and deadly with it, or come of as a complete moron. There is no middle ground. To me its not really worth the time because its going to take alot of time to not come off as a moron..You need to have some real mastery of mirroring/body language/vocal pacing to pull off "what if you lived in an extra dimension"..To me the thing to take from language patterns is simple embedded commands..Why you don't ask a girl out with "you don't really want to go out with me, do you?"..."you know you are right, I don't".

Very inspiring volume wise Bond. I don't know what anyone reading this needs a seminar for..Ask 500 women out and a small % will sleep with you probly no matter what you say.

Ill share some quick wisdom on this. Read your cardplayer blog which i abosrbed alot from and that kino link was very interesting ty. I kind of already knew but now i can recognise the patterns its mind opening. Thinking back whenever i skip the first 'levels' it takes a certain type of girl in a certain state of mind for it to work. I.e drunk and slutty.




This is dependant on other factors within a persons lifestlye. If you go to the gym alot you can jerk it more. If i don't gym for a week... jerking... severly reduces any attractive energy and increases my introvert to extrovert balance of energy. Another factor is how you jerk. If you prolong it it will favour your energies and is benificial to vitality/hormones ect. If you bust a quicknut or 3 its just a complete waste and detremental and does your penis no favours when actually doing intercourse. Especially if you have a desk job or sit on your ass playing poker all day.

See how good you are with women or attractive to women you are after spending a week stayin indoors with no excercise whilst playing poker and busting quicknuts between sessions. Then compare this to training hard everyday and not wasting the sexual energy in wasteful small releases.

Or on a smaller scale bust 3 quicknuts before going out and do no excercise compared to heavy training session and butsing one nut or none.

The way i see it is that if your masterbating your not getting laid. And womens vagina can sense sexual energy and like it so better to conserve it or balance it

About instabusting:
Your more sensitive but also more powerful. Its a slower build up required and pulling out and numbing it often is required but it is better for the woman and yourself if you hold and build the energy. The climax is then so much better for both. Again excercise is correlated with this mainly because of blood flow and hormones.

He means actually punching them in their whore-mouths. Where do you stand?

lol

fishnoob scares the crap out of me.

Gotta take care of something ... be back in 3 minutes.

wat?

Apparently there's a sexual energy sensor in women's vaginas

Are you a routines guy? What is your stack?