So last year you found like 20 girls you "clicked with on a number of levels"?
Sounds like a lot.

Physically, it's all kinds. Personality wise, I can at this point say exactly what I find attractive in women:

Sense of humor: So huge for someone who dicks around as much as me. I also love it when the girl is funny too, be it a sharp wit or the willingness to say **** that sounds crazy from a girl, I love it all. By far the most important trait I look for in a woman.

Open minded/adventurous: I'm a pretty out there dude, and I need a girl who gets that and encourages it. I'm really spontaneous too, so a girl who is always up for adventure is a great time to have come with! I can't deal with nity, close minded girls, drives me ape ****. I want to be comfortable being myself around a girl, and that means her knowing about what a raging man whore I am. I want her to be equally comfortable around me, and not uptight just being herself.

Taste: I consider myself a stylish guy and I like a girl who sort of matches that. I want her to have developed, sensible taste in things like food, movies, TV, books, etc. I guess what I'm saying is that I want her to be cultured. She doesn't have to be incredibly sophisticated, but I like having a smart conversation with a woman on a variety of topics and watching our tastes click.

Independence: I'm all over the place, I can't deal with a girl who wants and needs to be around me all the time. You can even take this to a more simple level, like if i go to a bar with a girl I don't want her just standing next to me not socializing the whole time and being tied to me.

Social skills/outgoing: Kind of ties in with independence, but I love when I bring a girl to meet new people and she just crushes it and they love her. I hate when she stands around awkwardly and says things to me like "I don't know anybody here, this is boring for me." Nothing wrong with a girl being shy, but she probably isn't for me.

Could probably think of more, but that's what I got off the top of my head.

Sure, but mix cold approaching and meeting girls through social circle and that's likely 20 of say 1000. Also, some of those were def random one night stands from bar/club type stuff and I didn't necessarily click with them.

Sure dude, message me in June!

So how many girls did you really connect with and met several times?

What are you general openers like?

What are some hardfast rules that you've learned through experience?

If you could do things differently starting back from a year ago, what would they be?

How do you rate yourself in terms of looks?

so I've always thought of PUA as kinda like religion in that overall and the majority of the members are dumb but there's a smart minority that can read between the lines and filter out the BS and come out a better person for being a part of it. Bond you definitely seem like a member of the smart minority

I'm wondering if you've read this thread about PUA and what you would say to the Henry17 viewpoint in that thread.

I don't remember it all but he basically broke down PUA into 3 types of info

1. stuff that's obvious and would only help someone who was especially terrible socially

2. stuff that would work if you were good looking but doesnt matter because almost anything would

3. really terrible BS that would almost never work

He winds up coming to the same conclusion that you said in the OP that self improvement is the way to go and the results will follow. Something I agree with but aside from being productive in poker to make money I have been slacking. Its a good read even if you just read Henrys posts

This is a whole nother thread there Mayo

Of the 18 I had some form of sex with, 6 were random one night stand things. The others were girls I got to know better. There were also a number of women I hung around and really hit it off with but didn't sleep with for any number of reasons (some simply didn't do casual sex, others I blew my opportunity.)

Am writing the post that will answer most of these questions. I guess I'd give myself about an 8, I'm pretty tall, in shape, well dressed, and fairly handsome, but if I go into any popular bar/club I see heaps of guys who are clearly better looking than me. I'm alright, but nothing to write home about.

Note to self-Charge ******s 20$ for "session" telling them to approach girls directly.

This is pretty much right on, but I'd add something.

"1. Stuff that's obvious and would only help someone who was especially terrible socially." I disagree here. I think lots of stuff that's obvious to women and guys who are naturally good with them isn't obvious to the majority of us. I was a very socially comfortable guy getting into this, but I was just pretty awful with women.

As far as looks go, they do matter, but I also know some guys who aren't particularly good looking and are really, really good at this. I'm willing to admit that if you have a major looks aspect going against you (like being REALLY short or REALLY ugly) than this is gonna be tough (but not impossible.)

According to your stats you've gotten some action 9 times in about 600 cold approaches.

Man that seems like a lot of work - it's like not even 2% win rate.

So you have to cold approach more than 50 women to get laid once.

Is using this system really any different than if some other '8' rated guy just went up and said hi to random women without taking a course on it?

I appreciate the thread but those numbers don't look like success to me.

+1 QFT

Bond guess its good what ya doing I guess some folks are horrible at picking up women, however it is all about eye contact, confidence, and lets face it ya cant be ugly.

Im not rich like you(I assume you are), have a foriegn accent, how ever I do have a southern accent and has been a huge plus for me, or get to travel the world.

A Look and a smile, add a dash of confidence and its sexor time, over the years before I got married I got more trim than a body shop. Not because I had some trick, just a passive then agressive attitude its easy breezy.

finally something i have done but bond hasnt

IDK? We'll get a better idea over the next year. Keep in mind those were my first 600 approaches, and the first few hundred were really rocky in a number of areas. I would screw up all the time, and be a lot more nervous coming in, and my follow up game (what you're doing after the initial interaction) was a lot less tight.

I guess it sounds like more work than it is. If you go out drinking with friends, you might as well go talk to girls if you're single. If you go out to do errands and shopping during the day, you might as well talk to girls. Also, I enjoy it. You're right though, cold approach is a super low % route, and a better way for guys to meet women is to just improve their social circle.

Right, but a lot more needs to go on beyond eye contact, smile, and "Hi". The fact is, if you were highly successful with women during this period then you had natural game, whether you knew it or not.

It all feels easy for you because you're experiencing what's known as the "curse of knowledge", where you forget what it's like not to know something. Guys who were good for a long time often look at pick up and think "WTF, how is this possibly necessary?" but for so many of us, learning about game at a later stage of life really is, because nobody taught us when we were younger and then your lack of confidence with women became a self-fulfilling prophecy.

I have had this happen to me twice in my life, 1st time was quit enjoyable, second was a ****in train wreck.

One should strive to do this at least once in their lifetime even if the call is a marginal one on looks of said women.

So how do you pick up guys Bond? Preferably emo boys.

who has sex with girls here anyway

True to a point but like in poker we learn to read people, and the eyes will tell you if a women has the slightest interest, even to a noob. I never cold approach unless its just a social event. Now if I get the look I will approach and get the temp of the pool so to speak.

Its animal instinct and everyone has it inside for sure, bars are like shooting fish in a barrel. It really gets fun when you can pick up a women in a grocery store, or auto repair shop, the out of the blue stuff.

But I understand that for some folks its just socially akward to do this so carry on Mr Bond

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Don´t you sometimes find it a bit weird that you approach meeting girls and getting to know them like a game?

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