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Originally Posted by Gizmo
The studies I've read about the phytoestrogens have all really come back relatively inconclusive. Mostly you have to be ingesting a ****-load of soy in order to cause some issues.
Studies are ordered mostly by the industries, therefore they will be published only if they fit into propaganda of those that financed them. So, if perhaps there are "big beef" and "big soy", each side will reveal publicly only the info that suits their interests. Doctors and studies will contradict each others based on who hired whom.
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Originally Posted by Gizmo
Anecdotal evidence - my thyroid seemed messed up when I was eating a lot of soy products.
Glands slowing down, especially thyroid and ovaries is often related to increased estrogen. Can be increased by smoking, alcohol, drugs, coffee, contraceptive pills, too much sex, canned food, huge shampoo and cosmetics use. And ofc soy, especially industrially processed soy products.
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Originally Posted by Gizmo
ftr: my iron level absolutely tanked and I have since started eating meat again. I was just not a good vegetarian and didn't take very good care of myself.
Coffee, tea, milk, cocoa, plant foods, and eggs inhibit iron absorption. So do other minerals such as calcium(milk), zinc( some meat, liver, nuts?, seeds), magnesium(grains, legumes). Iron is best absorbed from tabs, combined with c vitamin, on an empty stomach. Iron from animals should be more useful for us than iron from plants, since animals should have more similarities to humans than plants do, and we can assume their organisms already filtered and absorbed the potentially useful iron for us from their foods.