I believe this is referred to as the 3 second rule. I have a friend who's working on the master's program that you are, is this about right?

Bond18, why do you like getitng all these fat guys hopes up. Girls do not care how you act, they care if your hott or not.

While women factor looks into the equation undoubtedly; most of them are far less critical of a mans appearance than we are of theirs. Most everyone can take simple steps to make themselves presentable enough to at least not be precluded solely on looks. Which is lucky for me I guess.

More or less. I don't normally approach within the first 3 seconds, but for guys who are gonna let **** get in their head really bad if they stand around it's a good rule.

excellent , btw wildoats or whole foods or any health food store is the location for execution es. around 4 , 5 when the hotties get off work

doing things he has said helps build character/personality and confidence and all that other crap

You are wrong. I have a friend who was 260 pounds, at 220 now, still gets bitches more than I do and I'm 190.

I have a friend who goes to the health food section at walmart to practice this. It works beautifully, I've seen him get phone numbers from bitches that normally would be well out of his league. Bond's guide is a really good starter, but you can't start with 10s. Start practicing on 4s and 5s on the BBV scale.

Then he is the exception, or he has money, Bond will agree with me. Girls are more shallow than guys are about looks.

i say i say god damn boy

This isn't even anywhere close to true. Guys are like 100 X more shallow about looks than women.

There are tons of guys with weak looks and strong game who pull 8's through 10's, but there are basically zero women who are unattractive yet pull desirable guys. Think how many times you've walked past a couple and thought the girl was out of the guys league. And how many times have you seen the opposite of that?

Well bond take a look around you, how often do you see a 8+ dating a guy who is a 5, that has no money?

I know ur just trying to help guys talk to woman, but some of these guys are gona try these tricks on really hott girls and they are gona get there EGO smashed.

My friend has more confidence than money and wants to get laid. Life has downswings, but if you have confidence and know how to play the game, you'll eventually win.

Bond is right, guys are 100x more shallow than girls. Look at any musician, even the ones that play ****hole local bars with $2 covers get women that are way hotter than they deserve.

If you play baseball, you don't start in the major leagues, you work your way up. It's not a bad thing to practice on 3s and 4s, get their number and throw it away, etc. You definitely don't start as a professional, there are obstacles in the way.

Im just saying if you got 1$ for everytime you saw a attractive girl with an attractive guy, and you got 1$ for everytime you saw an attractive girl with a busted guy, which way will you come out with a lot more money?

Actually, if there's one place where an approach won't end in ego shattering misery it's during the day. Of those 250ish approaches I've only had two go "bad". Once it was the girls friend who was just kind of a bitch, and the other the girl was simply startled and rudely said "Yea thanks" and walked away.

For the most part you're making a woman's day when you do something like this.

However, anyone who decides to try this should anticipate failing for quite some time before things start clicking and you actually get dates.

Not too often, but occasionally and certainly infintely more than I see a 5 girl dating an 8 guy.

Bond, I just wanted to say thanks, not only for the last few threads on girls/pick-up/general life tips for being a confident, cool dude, but also for responding to all these questions and what not. Always a sick amount of value/content in your threads. wp gg gj sir.

Are you leveling? If not you are sadly misinformed.

You are correct. Girls judge the total package far more than we do. Attraction is about far more than chiseled abs and a strong jaw line. Confidence, intelligence, wit, and charasma will get you far more girls than less than ideal looks will lose you.

Nope.

Actually, I have found these "tricks" work even better on "hott" girls because most men lack the self confidence and aren't comfortable enough in their own skin to even attempt this on the really good looking girls and instead settle for the semi attractive ones.

The point is to not care. So many people are concerned with what one person thinks. It is one woman for christ sakes. There is no response that any women could have if I were to approach her that would smash my ego. The attitude that will ultimately win out will laugh that off and say, "Next."

I totally agree with you, but its harder for some then you think. Some people just think differently and dont have the same mindset as you. People are afraid for different reasons. The typical feeling of how people cope with the fear is not trying. If you do not try you can not get hurt. Those people who do not think like you never think that it is just about one women. They feel like "wow I got rejected by this girl, Ill probably keep getting rejected by other girls. Im ugly...what can I do about that"

If a person gets rejected by one they start to lose self confidence in themself and doubt their looks/personality and who they are. Then they think to themself will I always be like this? Will I ever be able to change?

People like staying in their comfort zone. That makes life easier for them.

I feel you, I do. I am just surprised that so many smart people will make life changing decisions based on such bad information. I mean small sample sizes ftw. If you approach 100 girls and are confident and charming, you will get some good results even if you look like Stece Buscemi. I promise you this much, when you get the one that says yes, you won't even remember the 5 girls that said no before her.

Do you know how many times I have been shot down in my life? I couldn't even come close on a guess. All I remember is the ones that said yes.

Guess I'm a tard that way.

I have to say, when it comes to direct opening, it is far better not to offer a woman a compliment as an opener. This especially holds true the more attractive they are.
This is because women are very aware of their sexual power, and alpha males do not demonstrate neediness/awe/whatever puts women in a more powerful position.

It's okay if you're a beginner, but for the more comfortable man, try something like "Hey, I'm [name]. I noticed you're wearing a special looking necklace, is there a story behind it?",
or "Hey there, you seem a little gloomy today, what's up with that?".
If you combine a direct, daytime approach with an opener that shows her you actually noticed something about her, other than her looks in general, you will blow her mind.

One of the most succesful openers of all time is a so called female opinion opener; which is exactly what it sounds like.
Example: "Hi, I just got a new kitten today, and I'm still very much in doubt between two names. I definitely need a female opinion, and I'm pretty sure you can provide me with one =)."
Stuff like this gets them 99% of the time, and it's easy to slip into conversation.

Just my 2 cents = )

oh yeah I definitely agree. I know a lot of smart people where when it comes to something they are emotional about...they become dumb about it. Fear and emotions are very hard to overcome.

Also, I know guys who are not bad looking but still do terrible with the ladies because of their personality and the way they act around girls...they are just not charming. This is what gets some guys scared too. They are afraid of being awkard and not knowing what to do/say. This hurts them even more, because it goes straight to who they are and their personality if they get rejected. Nothing hurts more I would say then finding out that your personality sucks.

I would say most guys realize that they do have to shrug off the rejections and just move on and it will be fine if they just keep trying and practicing. The hard part is actually going out there and doing what you know u have to do.

Worth way more than 2 cents imo.