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01-23-2017 , 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by wowsooooted
gl! make sure you get a tent that has internet / power for the pokers
mcdonalds free wifi!!!! and they even have outlets to plug your laptop charger in too.
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01-25-2017 , 06:07 AM
i know nobody wants to read hand histories in this thread or even read this thread but i dont care ill piss all over this thread if i want to.

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$.50/1 online ignition 9handed.

Hero ($120.43) Td9c UTG +1

utg limps, Hero raises to $5, utg+4 calls, utg+5 calls, big blind calls, utg calls.

Flop (~$25) Ks3c6d

utg checks, I bet $15, utg+4 calls, utg+5 calls, big blind calls, utg folds.

Turn (~$82) 8d

check,check,check,check

River (~$82) 7c BINGO!!!!!

bb bets $42, I jam $100, utg+4 folds, utg+5 calls all-in($86), big blind calls $38 more all-in.

utg+5 has 54hh
big blind has 54ss

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.50/1 ignition
Hero ($62) Td3c

4 people limp hero in the big blind checks

flop ($5) TTT

check, hero check, check, bet $4.5, fold, fold, hero calls, fold

turn ($14) Qh
hero check, bet $7, hero x-raise to $19, call

river($52) 2h
hero bet $38 (leaving 5 bucks behind) and call

AKhh flush no good although he was drawing to a royal flush would have been funny if he hit it.

easy game
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tell me how god i am at poker please and thank you.

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01-31-2017 , 09:24 AM
well its official. march 1st im back living in my tent. only this time ill be near ****ing broke. gonna have to get a job.
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01-31-2017 , 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Rich Checkmaker
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tell me how god i am at poker please and thank you.
Not very god.
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01-31-2017 , 10:43 AM
Tutoring from a tent with testicles?
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01-31-2017 , 01:04 PM
i can tell by the way you played the first hand your game needs a lot of work
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01-31-2017 , 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by wowsooooted
i can tell by the way you played the first hand your game needs a lot of work
buddy, i cant agree with that more. fwiw i dont post the hundreds and thousands of hands that i play normally. also one hand out of context does not tell the whole story of game flow etc. that being said the way i played that hand is pretty atrocious looked at objectively. probably why ill be sleeping in the tent in the near future.
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01-31-2017 , 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Rich Checkmaker
buddy, i cant agree with that more. fwiw i dont post the hundreds and thousands of hands that i play normally. also one hand out of context does not tell the whole story of game flow etc. that being said the way i played that hand is pretty atrocious looked at objectively. probably why ill be sleeping in the tent in the near future.
"yeah, opening T9o is atrocious UTG FR but game flow was...still not good for opening T9o".
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02-02-2017 , 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by DeathCabForTootie
"yeah, opening T9o is atrocious UTG FR but game flow was...still not good for opening T9o".
ok im bad but at least im not calling with T9 or calling with any hand really. when i write my bot program ill have it fold T9os 100% from utg+1.
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02-02-2017 , 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Rich Checkmaker
ok im bad but at least im not calling with T9 or calling with any hand really.
also really bad strat!
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02-02-2017 , 07:29 PM
GL. Take care. Keep us posted.
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02-03-2017 , 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Rich Checkmaker
ok im bad but at least im not calling with T9 or calling with any hand really. when i write my bot program ill have it fold T9os 100% from utg+1.
are you setting up an office in your tent also?
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02-03-2017 , 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by wowsooooted
are you setting up an office in your tent also?
my office is mickey dees

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Originally Posted by DeathCabForTootie
also really bad strat!
uhhh i dont think so on that level. the only hands i might should call with are the occasional suited connector or pocket pair in position when there are multiple other callers. calling raises preflop is the biggest leak in most peoples games. the only hands i call with are hands like AK,JJ,TT. i just fold AQos, and KQ unless i see the person raising preflop too much or something. and even then ill probably be 3betting. thats part of what makes me a winner probably is the ability to easily let go of a hand like AQos to a single raise.

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GL. Take care. Keep us posted.
thank you i will!!! wont be long that im in the tent hopefully. wont be long im broke is all i really care about actually.

Last edited by Rich Checkmaker; 02-03-2017 at 08:29 AM.
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02-03-2017 , 09:40 AM
#proud

Minus the not smoking trees
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02-03-2017 , 09:49 AM
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my office is mickey dees
nice, it could be the first bot program in history written at micky dees
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02-03-2017 , 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Rich Checkmaker
ok im bad but at least im not calling with T9 or calling with any hand really. when i write my bot program ill have it fold T9os 100% from utg+1.
Your initial statement.

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Originally Posted by Rich Checkmaker

uhhh i dont think so on that level. the only hands i might should call with are the occasional suited connector or pocket pair in position when there are multiple other callers. calling raises preflop is the biggest leak in most peoples games. the only hands i call with are hands like AK,JJ,TT.
Your follow-up response does not compute with your second response.

Your fundamentals and mental game need work. If I were you, I'd consider getting a f/t job and put the poker dream on hold/play recreationally.
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02-03-2017 , 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Rich Checkmaker
my office is mickey dees
[x] Correct

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Originally Posted by Rich Checkmaker
uhhh i dont think
[x] Correct

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Originally Posted by Rich Checkmaker
the only hands i might should call with are the occasional suited connector or pocket pair in position
[x] Correct

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Originally Posted by Rich Checkmaker
calling raises preflop is the biggest leak in most peoples games.
[x] Correct

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Originally Posted by Rich Checkmaker
the only hands i call with are hands like AK,JJ,TT. i just fold AQos, and KQ unless i see the person raising preflop too much or something. and even then ill probably be 3betting.
[x] Correct

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Originally Posted by Rich Checkmaker
thats part of what makes me a winner probably
[ ] Correct

And we were doing so well there

Dude, seriously, check win rates, even killing it at 1/2 you're unlikely to make over $20 an hour. If you're doing alright it's more like 5-10 bucks an hour - until you actually calculate your true winrate I think we'll be seeing a lot of sleeping in tents.

Big difference between being a winner and winning a living wage.

BTW took a job out here - will have to be on pokerstars if you want to actually follow through on the challenge.
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02-03-2017 , 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by rickroll
[ ] Correct

And we were doing so well there

Dude, seriously, check win rates, even killing it at 1/2 you're unlikely to make over $20 an hour. If you're doing alright it's more like 5-10 bucks an hour - until you actually calculate your true winrate I think we'll be seeing a lot of sleeping in tents.

Big difference between being a winner and winning a living wage.

BTW took a job out here - will have to be on pokerstars if you want to actually follow through on the challenge.
why are you constantly insulting and underestimating me? i dont appreciate it and i dont have to prove anything to you. why do you just automatically assume my winrate is less than a living wage?? im a lazy pothead, not bad at poker. quit being such a jerk you aren't helping me, your just making yourself feel better by putting down someone who you think that you are better than. its petty and pathetic honestly.

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Originally Posted by buddyWEISER
#proud

Minus the not smoking trees
ill be back smoking trees asap.

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Originally Posted by wowsooooted
nice, it could be the first bot program in history written at micky dees
lol yeah not actually gonna write any programs been too long since i programmed/ i dont have the technical know how.

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Originally Posted by DeathCabForTootie
Your initial statement.



Your follow-up response does not compute with your second response.

Your fundamentals and mental game need work. If I were you, I'd consider getting a f/t job and put the poker dream on hold/play recreationally.
thanks yeah im looking for a job. ill let you know how that goes.
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02-03-2017 , 03:17 PM
Dude as I said earlier, this is purely out of tough love.

I grinded for a living, almost exclusively live for about a year. Saw so many people come and go that convinced themselves they were awesome and ultimately ended up ruining their lives and going broke. I see an incredible amount of parallels between you and them. I faired a bit better but ultimately decided I'd be happier and with a higher earnings ceiling if i stayed with app development and slowly transitioned to part time play for fun only.

- biggest red flag for poker brm was how you calculate win rates by sessions being up/down

- biggest red flag for poker was your hand histories, complaining about standard results, silly plays like raising T9o utg then playing it like T9o post flop and showing off wins that were result of mutual donk play as good wins

- biggest red flag for ability to grind is stating you'd never play t9o utg immediately after talking about doing it and switching back and forth between sites and stakes (playing under rolled) and such means even if you know the correct gto play you get bored too easily to execute it correctly

- biggest red flag personality wise is you keep on referring to yourself as a great player despite all poker play and financial situations indicating otherwise. You also jump in on lots of other popular threads just to flame on them in a self righteous tone, again indicating an unstable personality

I'm rooting for you to be honest, I really am. That's biggest reason why I'm offering to do your heads up challenge on play money - I'm more about just keeping you grounded than trying to win some microstakes off you.

PM me when ready to do the challenge - this is a former pro that still regularly mixes it up in Macau with strong results - if you even break even against me over a long enough sample I'd just write off your thread as poor communication skills under repping your poker skill but right now it just seems like you're only slightly above average at both.

I fully believe you are a decent player, am very confident you're well above average compared to the other guys you sit with at 1/2. Whether that means you can grind a good living off that remains to be seen and appears unlikely - at least at this stage.

I'd also like to emphasize, this was your heads up challenge...

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02-03-2017 , 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by rickroll
Dude as I said earlier, this is purely out of tough love.

I grinded for a living, almost exclusively live for about a year. Saw so many people come and go that convinced themselves they were awesome and ultimately ended up ruining their lives and going broke. I see an incredible amount of parallels between you and them. I faired a bit better but ultimately decided I'd be happier and with a higher earnings ceiling if i stayed with app development and slowly transitioned to part time play for fun only.

- biggest red flag for poker brm was how you calculate win rates by sessions being up/down

- biggest red flag for poker was your hand histories, complaining about standard results, silly plays like raising T9o utg then playing it like T9o post flop and showing off wins that were result of mutual donk play as good wins

- biggest red flag for ability to grind is stating you'd never play t9o utg immediately after talking about doing it and switching back and forth between sites and stakes (playing under rolled) and such means even if you know the correct gto play you get bored too easily to execute it correctly

- biggest red flag personality wise is you keep on referring to yourself as a great player despite all poker play and financial situations indicating otherwise. You also jump in on lots of other popular threads just to flame on them in a self righteous tone, again indicating an unstable personality

I'm rooting for you to be honest, I really am. That's biggest reason why I'm offering to do your heads up challenge on play money - I'm more about just keeping you grounded than trying to win some microstakes off you.

PM me when ready to do the challenge - this is a former pro that still regularly mixes it up in Macau with strong results - if you even break even against me over a long enough sample I'd just write off your thread as poor communication skills under repping your poker skill but right now it just seems like you're only slightly above average at both.

I fully believe you are a decent player, am very confident you're well above average compared to the other guys you sit with at 1/2. Whether that means you can grind a good living off that remains to be seen and appears unlikely - at least at this stage.

I'd also like to emphasize, this was your heads up challenge...
=D see now thats better. i just appreciate your criticism when it is in a more constructive rather than derogatory tone. its hard to emphasize tough love in a derogatory way in wirtten words. im sure in person you saying it might come off differently.

and if you are referring to me in the TST thread, i didn't "jump in" there until i read about the OP threatening to murder his acquaintance so casually. and thats what that was. so i called him on it, and then i called him on it again when he subtly threatened to murder the same person again. otherwise i would have just enjoyed reading the thread. definitely waasn't flaming him though you and a bunch of his other fanboys took it as such. i read that story as the OP bullying someone else and my visceral reaction is to help the person being bullied. even if the person in question is a scumbag he doesnt deserve to be threatened to be stabbed to death or to be pushed down a flight of stairs and i just wanted to let the OP (and anyone else) know that its "murder" when you kill someone illegally because it was apparent to me that the OP was distancing himself from his reprehensible behavior and i was simply trying to get him to examine his behavior so that he could improve it in the future. its pretty cringe-worthy. i hope you've never threatened to murder anyone over a gambling debt or for any reason...

i can download the ps client and we could play sometime next week. a good time for me would be sometime this next saturday or sunday(2/11,2/12) between 8am-2pm. pick a date and time and i'll be on here to PM and figure out the logistics. if saturday or sunday doesnt work let me know what works for you and ill pick a date and time.
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02-03-2017 , 09:04 PM
sounds good, as far as scheduling goes when you're ready pm me and we can exchange some messenger contacts and set something up
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02-04-2017 , 12:07 AM
btw my home game win rates played effectively at about 1/2 was just shy of 15bb/hour for a year of daily playing
regular visits to casinos in Macau playing what was effectively 4/8 was just shy of 18bb/hour but with sample size of only a few hundred hours (past few years around 12 and again with unreliable sample size from irregular and short lived visits)

in case you were wondering, 10bb/hour is the goal for live play over thousands of hours - I knew people that did much better than I but also knew a lot of "pros" hovering around 2bb/hour and didn't realize that $100 day they played for 14 hours wasn't really all that much money when looked at per hour and since they can only do that 4 days a week it's about 20k a year without vacation. All they saw was winning session, up $100, ship it! Thing is they consistently book winning sessions most of the time but never really earned very much and would overextend themselves financially when they book a good month and then they lose a dozen sessions in a row and suddenly need to pawn everything and move back in with their parents at 29. If you listen to the Antonio Esfandiari interview with Joe Ingram he talks about how one time he ended up spending almost all his life roll on nice restaurants because he always thought the next session would be a winner. It wasn't that he was so much financially irresponsible so much as he was never really earning that much to begin with - luckily for him he helped figure it out and I'm not so sure he would have been able to do so if he weren't poker royalty with easy access to staking.

new computer but my microstakes winrates were all about 13-3bb/100 sliding downwards from nl2 to nl25

all of these are "winning" poker that puts me above average - none of those rates represented a desirable income

I feel to grind a good living live you need to play at least 5/10+ if not much higher and at least nl100+ online. Succeeding at either would put you among pretty elite company - which if you attained that level at any job be it going from bus driving to managing the LA transportation routes or in my case working in tech you'd see that lifestyles are much easier, earning ceilings are much higher and you don't need a huge bankroll and freak out every few months when you start hitting a downswing and don't know whether or not this is the beginning of busto. I've seen people work it for years and still go busto - 2+2 has dozens of threads dealing with that as well - it happens - it's a fact. You read my last macau tr - you should know how easily things can go horribly wrong for you at the tables despite getting it in good as a 60, 80 or in that 10k usd pot I lost, a 96% favorite.

Bottom line you need to ask yourself is this the kind of life you really want to pursue. Something you need to pay attention to particularly that the only people really doing that well are household names here because they are so rare - furthermore - many of the elite have even quit or begun a transition. You really think Doug Polk would be doing youtube and 10k br challenge on twitch if he could still get action from donkeys at the nosebleeds? Don't mean to pick on Polk, he seems like a very nice guy but the man who proclaims himself the best in the world sees a better future as a poker personality for recs really should underscore that poker was a bubble, it burst and you need to accept that it's back to the degenerate and living on the edge of society role the pros previously occupied before moneymaker and the easy money bubble started building.

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02-04-2017 , 10:32 AM
+470
+740
-265
+165
+250
-350
+240
+605
+395
-210
+910
+100
-620
-580
-125
-30
+200
+70
+185
-250
+1210
+370
-1160
+200
+300
-800
+360
+100
+350
+60
+300
-320
+200
+790
+650
+335
+75
+355
+555
+235
+400
-550
-800
-345
-600
-80
-500
=$3590/181hrs=$19.83/hr
thats my winrate over the last 47 sessions live including the horrendous losing streak at the end. i have my historic account entries from bovada also if you want to analyze them. i was stoned out of my gourd every time i played so my avg session only lasted a few hours before i would want to leave to go home and get stoned again. im pretty sure i wouldn't be having to live in a tent if i had quit smoking weed a few months ago. since i quit my decisions have been much more clear at the poker table. i have never giving poker a serious go sober. im fed up with myself. i can and will succeed as a professional poker player.

a little about me. i was 3 years advanced in math. i had to walk to my high school at 7am when i was in the 8th grade to take pre-calc then i would walk to my middle school and show up late at 815am. math has always been easy for me. the valedictorian of my high school who got early accepted into MIT told me i was smarter than him and everyone in our school considered him to be the smartest person in school. not that being good at math translates directly to being good at poker but if you aren't good at math you dont have much of a shot imo.

when i was 15 i started playing suicide spades on yahoo over the summer. its spades but where one partner on each team is forced to bid nil. the game came naturally to me. i realized the value of position without knowing what "position" was. i was thinking about the game and making smart moves that i hadn't even seen other people make but that i figured out on my own. i was able to know what cards were played already and what cards were still left out there and i "sensed" which players were holding onto what cards by who played what cards. my level of play far surpassed everyone elses(people with hundreds and thousands of games) after only playing dozens of games. i even had a 15 game winning streak playing with random partners.

then when i was 16 i saw the WPT on the travel channel and saw Gus Hansen, a professional backgammon player, win and outplay the competition. and then he won another WPT. and i knew i could do it too. i brought a set of poker chips to school the next day and was playing during class, during lunch, and afterschool.

dont doubt me, i will be a professional poker player and with some luck and discipline(thats the key), im going to make it to rail heaven!!!!
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02-04-2017 , 01:49 PM
But how much did you lose on marijuanas?
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02-04-2017 , 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Rich Checkmaker

dont doubt me, i will be a professional poker player and with some luck and discipline(thats the key), im going to make it to rail heaven!!!!
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/11...r-obv-1167630/

this guy has tons more poker and social skills and has CRUSHED for almost a decade. even he's getting out. my suggestion for you? don't even go in. play recreationally and work a f/t job.
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