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07-22-2011 , 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by i69ronaldino
pics of wife?
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07-22-2011 , 03:52 PM
OP has talent like Don Draper.

OP has a soul unlike Don Draper.

OP does drink like Don Draper.

OP does not bang every woman he sets eyes on unlike Don Draper.

OP has a wife like Don Draper.

Is OP happy? Is Don Draper happy?
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07-22-2011 , 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by King Fish
And I have absolutely zero..nil..none...desire to do the job. The commute would be horrendous (about 1hr 45 min each way), the work would be mind-numbingly dull, the hours would be long, and the company seems fairly soulless.

Also, I did not particularly care for the people I interviewed with. I did not particularly care for the employees I met. I can bring in some of my own team, but would not feel right dragging some of the people I trust and like working with into this environment.

I just don't know that I can pass up that much money (closer to $250k with bonuses).

Currently make a good living, but nothing close to that. Though I do think my current company is headed towards busto within a year, so I do need to consider all offers. I could well be unemployed any day now.

I just know I will be hating life if I take this job. Also, have a 1-year old daughter, and this would mean much less time with her.

I also know I'll be hating life if I have no job next month.

I think I am going to pass on it. I have till Monday to give them a decision.

I am an idiot.
I'm grunching, but let me say that money isn't everything. I passed on a seven figure job for the job I have now because I wanted a better life especially time with my son. It was totally the right decision.
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07-22-2011 , 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by King Fish
Thanks all for advice. I posted this thing while drinking a bit expecting/wanting to get flamed. I didn't expect real advice!

I've flipped again and now leaning towards taking it, and believe it or not 2p2 is affecting my decision a bit. I still need more time to think it over, and will probably vacillate another 50 times between now and then. It's such a marginal decision on something that will have a far than marginal impact on my life. I appreciate the advice. 2p2 never fails to surprise.

To answer some questions: I currently make around $150k/yr (with bonuses). Wife makes about $95k. We aren't hurting by any means. Live a comfortable life, have a savings, putting away for our daughter, etc. Poker was giving me an additional $40-70k per year, but I have to assume that is dried up, so really my quality of life will probably stay somewhat status quo, even though it is a huge bump in salary.

Moving is an option, and would have to be considered, but my wife specifically left her job to go to this new place that is close to home and has an awesome daycare. My daughter spending less time in a car is more important to me than me spending less time in a car.

As to why I interviewed, colleague/friend who worked at the company recommended me. I actually blew them off for a month, but they persisted. I went in figuring "what the hell...if they blow me away with an offer than maybe." They asked what my demands were. I said something I thought was a bit ridiculous. They said no problem, when can you start?

I work in marketing, but not on the commercial side anymore. It is mind numbingly dull. Started as a copywriter. Loved that. Eventually pushed towards management, and I hate it, but it pays the bills. When I took my first management role, I said it would be temporary, and would go back to what I love after a few years. You can see why I am reluctant to make the same "mistake?" again. I am a middle-leaning liberal wussbag who has hippie ideals and hates everything about a cubical environment and vowed that would not be me. I have little respect for the people I work for, but fear I am starting to become one of them.

I have not written for myself (outside of trololoolololoing) in about 5 years. I have 3 unfinished books. They will all be best sellers one day, and Michael Bay will produce (but not direct) the feature movies. I will be arrested one day for snorting coke off of a supermodel's inner thigh, and my wife will understand. She will be disappointed but she will understand. In the end, the experience will bring me closer to Robert Downy Jr., and it will result in a collab that will win us both Oscars. SrslySirius will direct the film, but will not be nominated for an award. We will exchange harsh words because of it and it will sever the tenuous hold on our friendship that existed since the early days of shooting the film. I will be upset but will be able to buy new friends. He will fade into obscurity and eventually kill a hooker and go to jail, where he will be raped often. No one will remember him, except as the guy who directed that KingFish/RDJ production all those years ago. I will not visit him in prison.

In addition to the Prius I have an Audi A6 and a Honda Pilot. We need 4WD where we live, which is why 2 people have 3 cars (I wanted to sell Pilot but wife loves that car too much). I feel like a weenie when I drive the Prius, but it saves me about $20/day in gas.

Anything I left out?
Now reading replies. So far I think that you are absolutely nuts if you take this job.
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07-22-2011 , 05:18 PM
as I say to my wife every time I suggest anal,

take it, maybe you'll like it after all.
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07-22-2011 , 05:36 PM
oh man don't do it, such a finite amount of time on this earth, you and your wife already making enough money to take care of your family, you never know when something like this can destroy what you've built. I think outside of the commute, you would have to take into consideration if you'll be working longer hours as well. Yeah sometimes we should take risks in life, as poker players know one knows that better than us, but imo it's a much better risk to take a job that pays 50k that you 100% know you will love than to take a job that pays 250k that you know you will hate.
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07-22-2011 , 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by AbsoluteTilt
oh man don't do it, such a finite amount of time on this earth, you and your wife already making enough money to take care of your family, you never know when something like this can destroy what you've built. I think outside of the commute, you would have to take into consideration if you'll be working longer hours as well. Yeah sometimes we should take risks in life, as poker players know one knows that better than us, but imo it's a much better risk to take a job that pays 50k that you 100% know you will love than to take a job that pays 250k that you know you will hate.
listen to this guy
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07-22-2011 , 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ToTheInternet
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asked and answered, sort of.

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Originally Posted by the adamantium
OP has talent like Don Draper.

OP has a soul unlike Don Draper.

OP does drink like Don Draper.

OP does not bang every woman he sets eyes on unlike Don Draper.

OP has a wife like Don Draper.

Is OP happy? Is Don Draper happy?
I have every season of Mad Men on DVD and in my DVR and on my iphone. I have so far only seen 3 episodes. I like it so far. I most definitely "get" Don Draper, at least so far. I feel sorry for him and look up to him.

I look forward to when I get to the Alison Brie episodes. I find her pleasing to look at.


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Originally Posted by AbsoluteTilt
oh man don't do it, such a finite amount of time on this earth...
I recently had a bit of a mortality scare, and this has been ringing in my ears this whole week. I keep thinking "if I die tomorrow...what have I accomplished? Did I do what i wanted in my career? Did I have fun and make the most of life and family?"

I don't like the answers I have come up with. I have always been good at making money whenever i needed it. I guess I just have to have faith that that trend will continue, if I do decide to decline the job.

Truth be told, if someone offered me a job for half my current salary that was 5 mins from my current house doing something I really loved, I would probably take it. I could spend the extra time I had freelancing and/or playing poker.

And I could sell the ****ing Prius.
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07-22-2011 , 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by King Fish

I look forward to when I get to the Alison Brie episodes. I find her pleasing to pleasure myself when I look at her.
fyp.

[x] OP watches "Community"

She is not appealing at all in Mad Men. And she is like no.70 on the potential reasons to watch it.

Back to your life OP - it seems like you are starting to sway toward happiness and family vs. material gain -- SO make your decision, have a MadMen marathon with the misses and then have naughty 1960s role play sex.
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07-23-2011 , 03:26 AM
Genuine dilemma. Two Qs:

1. How many kids resent their parents for money they don't make?

2. OP if you were highballing when pressed for a number, why didn't you 3-4x your current salary?
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07-23-2011 , 01:18 PM
Obviously if the choice was between $200k job and the unemployment line this would be easy, but you already have a job that pays well. The new commute sounds brutal, it can't be worth it given that you're already living comfortably on what you currently make. 3+ hours in the car plus 10+ hours of work (that you hate) every day isn't a life worth living, especially with a daughter. If you do take the new job, demand some extra weeks of vacation time and be sure to use it to spend time with her.
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07-23-2011 , 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by King Fish
I recently had a bit of a mortality scare, and this has been ringing in my ears this whole week. I keep thinking "if I die tomorrow...what have I accomplished? Did I do what i wanted in my career? Did I have fun and make the most of life and family?"

I don't like the answers I have come up with. I have always been good at making money whenever i needed it. I guess I just have to have faith that that trend will continue, if I do decide to decline the job.

Truth be told, if someone offered me a job for half my current salary that was 5 mins from my current house doing something I really loved, I would probably take it. I could spend the extra time I had freelancing and/or playing poker.

And I could sell the ****ing Prius.
Yeah I mean I think we all see the obvious dilemma, we understand the need for you to build financial security for your family and to be a person you can be proud of. But putting your goals and ambitions aside for a moment, assuming you have a good relationship with your wife and kids, then your time is most likely a more valuable commodity to them than the extra cash, so you may actually be doing them a disservice by doing what you think is in their best interest.

Now combine that with the fact that you most likely will be hating life if you take this job which will lead you to becoming a more (even slightly) irritable/distant person to your family and pull yourself even further away from who you want to be. I mean I don't think there really is a decision in my opinion.

And also you need a poll.

Last edited by AbsoluteTilt; 07-23-2011 at 02:25 PM.
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07-23-2011 , 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Mutant K12
Um, I am in Memphis
poor bastard
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07-23-2011 , 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by nham
he probably also has more education than you
it's too bad getting a 4 year degree has taken precedence over a little elbow grease in this day and age
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07-23-2011 , 10:18 PM
I believe there is some research to indicate that, beyond a certain threshold of meeting basic needs, happiness does not strongly increase with salary. People are talking about providing with your 1 year old, but you will be providing for her in either case, so I think spending time with her is more important.

Although I do see some appeal in sucking it up for a little while to put away lots of savings, realistically I suspect this is rarely how it works. People in general tend to adjust their spending upwards as their income goes upwards. If you are confident this won't be you then it might be a different issue, but I think this is the case with most people in such situations. They might claim they will live the same lifestyle and spend, but it's harder than it sounds. Also it's difficult in general to adjust back down to a lower salary after having a higher one.

Think about how many people die wishing they had made more money vs. how many people die wishing they spent more time with their family or enjoyed their lives more. I suspect very few middle class and above fall into the first category.

* I'm fairly young and don't have kids though, so what do I really know about the issue.
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07-23-2011 , 10:31 PM
Don't take it. Bush Tax cuts gonna get rolled back and you won't be able to create all those jobs.
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07-24-2011 , 01:49 AM
Too much time on the road, and it's a 100k/yr raise, right? Everyone keeps talking about him making 250k. 250k is not the important part. The amount of the raise is the important part. To anybody who mentioned providing for his family...they are making ~240k/yr combined. They are fine financially FFS. Adding another 60-70k in the bank per year is not going to change their life dramatically.

The choices are A) be a ****ty parent/husband/friend b/c of work, have 60-70k/yr extra, and have no change in lifestyle B) Be a much better parent/husband/friend, same lifestyle, less money

Why don't you start sniffing around for a new job in your area in the event your current company does go belly up?
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07-24-2011 , 03:58 AM
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Originally Posted by King Fish
Well, I am currently about $200k underwater on my house (Yay buying a first home in 2006!). Also, my wife just left her old job and started a new job that is 15-20 minutes from home. She loves where she works, and loves her new job. Yes, she makes less than me, but she is happy, and our daughter has a much closer daycare to home. She also loves this house. I currently drive about 75 minutes each way to work.
1) Take $250,000 job
2) Pay off $200,000 to reach top of water
3) ?
4) Profit!
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07-24-2011 , 04:08 AM
Your daughter's name wouldn't happen to be Emily would it? That would be just soooooooo ironic
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07-24-2011 , 05:36 AM
tell you current boss that your leaving unless he offers you a salary increase.
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07-24-2011 , 02:47 PM
take it , EZ game
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07-24-2011 , 03:49 PM
Tick Tick Tick....that's the sound of your life running out, OP.

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07-25-2011 , 03:14 AM
Train me to do the job and then recommend me, and I'll kick back 25%.

Everybody wins.
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07-25-2011 , 10:08 PM
Was not an easy decision, but decided to pass on the opportunity. Going to "officially" begin looking elsewhere, and maybe find something closer to home.

This weekend I spent a lot of time with my daughter and family, and don't want to get home only to say goodnight. Just not worth it to me at this point in my life. In fact, I decided I would even take a pay cut if I can get my commute to 30 mins or less.

It was an increadibly tough decision, but the more i think about it, the happier I am with it.

Thanks all for advice and insight...some of the posts ITT did actually help me when I was balancing the pros and cons.
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07-25-2011 , 10:10 PM
made the right choice, money isn't everything. congrats
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