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View Poll Results: which is worse
a white person who wont vote for a black peson, because they are black
25 20.00%
a black person who will only vote for a black person, because they are black
24 19.20%
neither, they are the exact same
49 39.20%
bastard!
27 21.60%

09-23-2008 , 01:34 PM
this is very important data i must collect kthnx
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09-23-2008 , 01:38 PM
of course i would spell something wrong in the pole

fml

you get the idea

now vote (or die)
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09-23-2008 , 01:39 PM
frist
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09-23-2008 , 01:40 PM
i vote for whatever R34 votes.
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09-23-2008 , 01:40 PM
frist option is worse btw
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09-23-2008 , 01:45 PM
edit: i cant read
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09-23-2008 , 01:47 PM
lemmie guess R34, you voted that it's worse that a black person votes for black person?
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09-23-2008 , 01:48 PM
you should probably read who voted what to find that out
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09-23-2008 , 01:49 PM
iyo
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09-23-2008 , 01:52 PM
for those of you that voted same, this is why that is flawed:

a white person's reasons for not voting for a black person because they are black are out of bigotry/prejudice

a black person's reasons for voting for someone of their same race is due to a personal similarity they can associate with (would be the same as if a white person voted for a white person because they are white). this is not out of hate/bigotry, it is just out of pure ignorance

therefore, it is worse for a white person to not vote for a black person because they are black (or similarly for a black person to not vote for a white person because they are white), assuming that prejudice and hatred is worse than just ignorance, iyo.
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09-23-2008 , 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by chadmack
for those of you that voted same, this is why that is flawed:

a white person's reasons for not voting for a black person because they are black are out of bigotry/prejudice

a black person's reasons for voting for someone of their same race is due to a personal similarity they can associate with (would be the same as if a white person voted for a white person because they are white). this is not out of hate/bigotry, it is just out of pure ignorance

therefore, it is worse for a white person to not vote for a black person because they are black (or similarly for a black person to not vote for a white person because they are white), assuming that prejudice and hatred is worse than just ignorance, iyo.
what he said
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09-23-2008 , 01:57 PM
i get that, except in some instances i believe that a white person would not want to vote for a black person (and we can them assume that person would want to vote for a white person) because they want to vote for a person whom they have similarities with

and also said black person would only want to vote for another black person because they do not like white people, not because of wanting to vote for someone similar

Last edited by RuleThirtyFour; 09-23-2008 at 01:58 PM. Reason: obv you are not every white person and every black person so people's motives behind their decision will always be different
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09-23-2008 , 01:57 PM
I meant to vote for "bastard!" and misclicked. ****ing butterfly ballot. I'm like those old Jewish ladies in Palm Beach who voted for Pat Buchanon imo.
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09-23-2008 , 02:06 PM
what if a white person doesnt like black people but a black person hates all other races?

which would be worse in that case?

Edit

I also think that if someone votes for someone based on skin color they are supporting ideals that they know nothing about, whereas someone not voting isn't supporting anything.
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09-23-2008 , 02:07 PM
idono?
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09-23-2008 , 02:09 PM
now someone should made the same pole but replace 'white' with 'man' and 'black' with 'woman'
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09-23-2008 , 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by RuleThirtyFour
i get that, except in some instances i believe that a white person would not want to vote for a black person (and we can them assume that person would want to vote for a white person) because they want to vote for a person whom they have similarities with

and also said black person would only want to vote for another black person because they do not like white people, not because of wanting to vote for someone similar
in some instances this is correct, but not in ALL instances

is it racist if a white/black person would vote for another white/black person, a hispanic person and an asian person, but not a black/white person? YES, because it is out of hate/bigotry.

it is racist if a white/black person would only vote for a white/black person. Slightly, but not as much because it's inspired by xenophobia and a sense of community/fears/similarities.

The first option in the poll makes it clear that the white person is not voting for black people explicitly, and doesn't specify that he is voting for a white person instead. He could be voting for any other race, which is what makes it racist. Also, this seems to suggest that he is voting against the black person, rather than for the candidate he chooses to vote for.
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09-23-2008 , 02:10 PM
OK I voted.... don't I get nude R34 pics or something now?
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09-23-2008 , 02:13 PM
how is this relevant?
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09-23-2008 , 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by JokersAttack
in some instances this is correct, but not in ALL instances

is it racist if a white/black person would vote for another white/black person, a hispanic person and an asian person, but not a black/white person? YES, because it is out of hate/bigotry.

it is racist if a white/black person would only vote for a white/black person. Slightly, but not as much because it's inspired by xenophobia and a sense of community/fears/similarities.

The first option in the poll makes it clear that the white person is not voting for black people explicitly, and doesn't specify that he is voting for a white person instead. He could be voting for any other race, which is what makes it racist. Also, this seems to suggest that he is voting against the black person, rather than for the candidate he chooses to vote for.
the pole implies that only because thats what you took it as . when i wrote "a black person who will ONLY vote for a black person" i meant it as he will only vote for a person of the black race and no one else. but i see your point and you
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09-23-2008 , 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Himself
how is this relevant?
how is anything in this forum relevant?
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09-23-2008 , 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by RuleThirtyFour
the pole implies that only because thats what you took it as . when i wrote "a black person who will ONLY vote for a black person" i meant it as he will only vote for a person of the black race and no one else. but i see your point and you
no I agree with this part.

I mean in the case of the white person. When it says that he is NOT voting for a black person, does that mean he is instead voting for a white person, or a person of any colour except black.

If the latter is true, I believe that this option is significantly more racist, because it conveys an inherent disdain/dislike for the black race, rather than a preference for the white race.

However, if the former is true, and you did mean that the white guy is not voting black to vote for a white guy, it's just a case of mistaken semantics and they are the same. As worded though, I don't think this is the case.

I you too btw!
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09-23-2008 , 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Himself
how is this relevant?
R34 is pissed cause a black person might become president

Last edited by chadmack; 09-23-2008 at 02:27 PM. Reason: yes i am kidding, don't blow up on me
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09-23-2008 , 02:37 PM
i dont care im not that ******ed to get mad at you, even if you did feel that way

i think its a really interesting question, and something people should think about. i dont know which one is right, or if any of them are right. in truth i think its a crazy question to ask because all people are different, all people have different thoughts and motives and do things for completely different reasons. and stereotyping people by saying a whole race will do one thing is just feeding into the stereotyping and what we are all trying (i hope) to avoid. but this was more of a gut reaction question. i get why people would vote that a white not wanting to vote for a black is worse, just because to me it is different because of slavery and everything involved with our history and racism and the like. and i get why a person would vote the other way (black would only vote for a black) because many white people make a valiant effort to make sure they are respectful and fair to every race especially to blacks because after all, it was the white race that had blacks as slaves. and i feel that a lot of whites dont think this effort is reciprocated when they are doing this because blacks have been trying to make everything fair in the world and dont want to be discriminated against. so they may vote that way because if they are dishing out the "my race needs to be treated fairly just like all other races" thing and they aren't doing it themselves, that could be viewed as ****ty.

i duno. that probably didn't make sense. but i find this interesting and i wouldn't hate on anyone for their answer.
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09-23-2008 , 02:41 PM
neither, they are the exact same

if obama loses the election , it will be because of the racism in this country!

Vote for OBAMA
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