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05-25-2010 , 11:40 PM
Don't forget it's a damn Boxster. Ask anyone who owns one, why they didn't buy an 911.

The only answer can be "because I couldn't afford one" or "bought it for wifey so she keeps swallowing"
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05-25-2010 , 11:50 PM
Price for an 6spd Alpine White E92 M3 Coupe? Navi?
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05-25-2010 , 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by herebigfishy
I am a car dealership located in the USA, I sell cars that are manufactured for use in the USA. I am not sure what you mean by a BMW M3 CSL? All we got are M3's unless you know something I dont? I dont sell cars outside North America...
Yip all we have here is standard M3 in general ....

CSL stands form Coupe Sport Lightweight i know this car from the UK ... your right it was never released for new sale in North America...i would therefore be careful about buying once do some detailed checking into its paperwork. Although if you can get one its a nice car esp since only 1400 were ever made...
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05-26-2010 , 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by herebigfishy
All it takes is a good hand shake and find something you have in common, anything... clothes, hat, kids the same age, home town, whatever you can find... You need to find it fast, talk about something other then cars and gain some repore. Its all about building friendship that you can grow, this is a customer that you could sell 5-6 or more cars over a lifetime. Most people conceive an initial positive or negative opinion about another person in less then 30 seconds, If they don't like you buy then, you are done!

No one is going to buy a car from a salesman they don't like, customers can get the same deal on a new car at any car dealership. When a customer buys, they are buying you and the dealership not the car.
Somewhat true... although there is a little more strategy and a good salesman knows the moves... and i dont mean by that anything thats not legit . More importantly even although most of us dont know it and some strongly dont believe it the vast majority of people are like sheep they like to be led. And you can lead even the "John Rambo" customer quickly and successfully when you know the right word tracks and positive mannerisms.

The very best have rebuttals for everything a buyer can throw at you in an attempt to avoid getting to far down the road of the sale...

I guarantee you i could make a great salesman out of anyone who would be interested (and i must say willing to learn and work very hard) in selling cars and with the right tools you can easily make over 100k income.. in fact i know some selling cars now that still in last years crappy market made over 200k!! And a lot who make 100k +. And i am talking about sales staff not managers!

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05-26-2010 , 12:52 AM
I just bought a black 2008 BMW 650i coupe, 15k miles, fully loaded, for $51k. Did I get ripped off?
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05-26-2010 , 02:33 AM
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Originally Posted by kmak
I just bought a black 2008 BMW 650i coupe, 15k miles, fully loaded, for $51k. Did I get ripped off?
Who cares. Your car is awesome.

Also, not sure how the color of the car affects your possible getting ripped-offedness.
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05-26-2010 , 09:14 AM
I need to buy a car

BMW - no, too ugly

Mercedes - no, too ugly

Porsche - no, too small

Jaguar - no, too small

Audi - most of them too ugly or too weak. And if not its probably really expensive.

I want quality, fun to drive (3-550 HP or something i guess), decent amount of space, should look pretty good, easy and not too expensive to find someone to repair the car in sweden.

Obviously i dont know anything about cars. Any help would be appreciated.

Prize depends on how good im running...right now i dont care so much.
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05-26-2010 , 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by kmak
I just bought a black 2008 BMW 650i coupe, 15k miles, fully loaded, for $51k. Did I get ripped off?
The dealer probably made about $4000 - $4500 profit... Not to bad of a deal! They are nice cars and the dealership is not going to sell that BMW at a much better price then you paid. You probably left $1000-$1500 on the table.
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05-26-2010 , 04:02 PM
2004 saturn ion redline, 100,000km, basically the stock redline

yayaya, gay car, but i want something cheap and quick to drive around in.

Originally listed on autotrader for 8500 canadian.

Dealer has lowered it about every week, and it's now down to 7290.

Should i pull the trigger? Offer him lower?


No one is buying Saturns right now, but everyone seems to still want to try and get good money for them. I've read dealers are only offering 35-5500 trade in value for used 04 redlines.

Anyways, pretty much just looking for the best deal possible
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05-26-2010 , 05:18 PM
What's the best way to negotiate for a car?
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05-26-2010 , 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Khaos4k
What's the best way to negotiate for a car?
say u saw a higher-mile one for way less, ud rather have the low mile one but ur not gonna pay more than $x youll just buy the other car
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05-27-2010 , 09:55 PM
Going to check out a private seller's Chrysler 300 tomorrow with 49k miles on it that's only $8900...If it's in good condition it's book value is like 14,000...Should I be concerned? He has agreed to meet at an auto body shop of my choice tomorrow to have it inspected...Should I feel safe buying it if the inspection checks out ? What else should I do ? How do I really know if it's not an salvage title? I don't trust him... Thanks...Any tips ?

Also he wants cash only...This is scary to me...I could get robbed...How should we go about this...Should I have him sign the title over to me first then take him into the bank with me and do the transaction to be safer? How should I go about this...His english is not that good and yeah...

Also I will have to sell my current dodge charger SXT with 54,000 miles on it...I think its book price used is about 11,000... Is the demand high for chargers? How long do you expect it would take to sell my car in today's market? would it be brutal ?

Could I have some kind of a dealership sell it for me via commission ? Details please!
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05-27-2010 , 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by ErikRyland9
Going to check out a private seller's Chrysler 300 tomorrow with 49k miles on it that's only $8900...If it's in good condition it's book value is like 14,000...Should I be concerned? He has agreed to meet at an auto body shop of my choice tomorrow to have it inspected...Should I feel safe buying it if the inspection checks out ? What else should I do ? How do I really know if it's not an salvage title? I don't trust him... Thanks...Any tips ?

Also he wants cash only...This is scary to me...I could get robbed...How should we go about this...Should I have him sign the title over to me first then take him into the bank with me and do the transaction to be safer? How should I go about this...His english is not that good and yeah...

Also I will have to sell my current dodge charger SXT with 54,000 miles on it...I think its book price used is about 11,000... Is the demand high for chargers? How long do you expect it would take to sell my car in today's market? would it be brutal ?

Could I have some kind of a dealership sell it for me via commission ? Details please!
1.) get a carfax report/with that margin its most likely a salvage
2.) even if the carfax checks out, you should buy a digital paint guage to use on each panel of the car to determine if there has been paintwork (basically its a little needle that detects the paint level in MM, to see if the panels differ from original factory paint
3.) Chargers are a dime a dozen, youll be hard pressed to sell it privately or get $ on a trade in
4.) if he wants cash, get a cashier's check, have him call the bank to verify validity of said check

sounds like a bad deal, im a carfax ceritifed dealer, if you get the vin ill run it for you bc i have unlimited and im bored on friday night
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05-27-2010 , 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by kmak
I just bought a black 2008 BMW 650i coupe, 15k miles, fully loaded, for $51k. Did I get ripped off?
Kmak, this is the market report (data updated daily, screen shot is self explanatory) for the biggest auction in the US on your exact car/

depending on what it sold for your looking at 3-6k swing, so yes you got taken. hard. but its all relative.

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05-28-2010 , 12:00 AM
muckyuraces, That's cool info you have access to. Could I ask you how I did? Last month I bought a 2007 750i with most options except sport package and rear DVD system. 35K miles and paid 37300. It has regular warranty till 12/10 and 2yr/100K after that. CPO car from BMW dealer. Thanks
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05-28-2010 , 12:19 AM
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muckyuraces, That's cool info you have access to. Could I ask you how I did? Last month I bought a 2007 750i with most options except sport package and rear DVD system. 35K miles and paid 37300. It has regular warranty till 12/10 and 2yr/100K after that. CPO car from BMW dealer. Thanks
yikes,: ballpark/average it yourself

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05-28-2010 , 12:23 AM
Don't be too discouraged; dealer margins are very over/under exaggerated depending on what your buying: these figures are aggregated data of actual auction sales; if this was a trade in for someone buying for example a 2010 bmw, than the dealer makes money on the front in and the backend bc they lowball the trader-in-er and mark up the turnover sale.

I run a primarily internet dealership using cars.com/ebay, most of my margins are between 1500-2000, but can downswing all the way to 400-500.

I feel like i need to make my own thread..
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05-28-2010 , 05:00 AM
Hi,

I have a 2002 landrover freelander with 110k miles on it. No major accidents, how much can i sell it for?
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05-28-2010 , 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by rakes
Hi,

I have a 2002 landrover freelander with 110k miles on it. No major accidents, how much can i sell it for?
Depending on whether its an S/SE/HSE..wholesale your looking at 3.6k (SE), retail ~5k. 2002 and older Freelanders & Discovery's are infamous money pits, 03'/04' disco's are still popular but the majority of disco's and freelanders always have engine knocks, lifter/cam problems etc.>>>

DO NOT WANT
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05-28-2010 , 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by muckyuraces
Depending on whether its an S/SE/HSE..wholesale your looking at 3.6k (SE), retail ~5k. 2002 and older Freelanders & Discovery's are infamous money pits, 03'/04' disco's are still popular but the majority of disco's and freelanders always have engine knocks, lifter/cam problems etc.>>>

DO NOT WANT
muckyuraces

do you have aim or msn or anything? I could use you down the road for car help! Id tip you $ as well for helping
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05-28-2010 , 09:07 PM
tips for negotiating the price of a new car? can i get a better deal when i pay for the car as opposed to finance it? what's the deal with the holdback, and how does it effect the negotiation?
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05-29-2010 , 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Tartufo
tips for negotiating the price of a new car? can i get a better deal when i pay for the car as opposed to finance it? what's the deal with the holdback, and how does it effect the negotiation?
Q1: No. Dealers WANT you to finance it. Why wouldn't they want to make more money from interest on a loan?

Q2: Holdback is an extra amount that dealerships get from the manufacturer when they sell the car. It's extra profit for them. Basically, the more the holdback, the more you can negotiate.
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05-29-2010 , 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by muckyuraces
Don't be too discouraged; dealer margins are very over/under exaggerated depending on what your buying: these figures are aggregated data of actual auction sales; if this was a trade in for someone buying for example a 2010 bmw, than the dealer makes money on the front in and the backend bc they lowball the trader-in-er and mark up the turnover sale.

I run a primarily internet dealership using cars.com/ebay, most of my margins are between 1500-2000, but can downswing all the way to 400-500.

I feel like i need to make my own thread..
Thanks. I felt OK with it compared to what other CPO cars were going foron the BMW website. I really wanted some peace of mind the extra warranty carries. I know I could have gotten an aftermarket extended warranty and all but.......

Yeah, you need your own thread.
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05-29-2010 , 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by z28dreams
Q1: No. Dealers WANT you to finance it. Why wouldn't they want to make more money from interest on a loan?

Q2: Holdback is an extra amount that dealerships get from the manufacturer when they sell the car. It's extra profit for them. Basically, the more the holdback, the more you can negotiate.
Ok, but these days, the interest on financing is very low, sometimes even 0. So in that case the dealer loses on it, right?
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06-03-2010 , 03:39 PM
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sounds like a bad deal, im a carfax ceritifed dealer, if you get the vin ill run it for you bc i have unlimited and im bored on friday night
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