Just got a call from a friend who takes a lot of vicodin etc and he told me about an herb called Kratom. He just bought it in tea form and said it's pretty damn good. I did some research on it and this is what I've found:

Kratom has been traditionally used for its psychoactive properties

it does away with tired muscles, recurring headaches, stiff necks, heavy bones and too much brooding over the final sense and meaning in life.

an alternative herbal remedy and tonic that gives new hope and new energy to hundreds of thousands of people suffering from stress, loneliness, fatigue and all the wear and tear that arises when the messengers of age finally start knocking at the gates.

Effects come on within five to ten minutes after use, and last for several hours. The feeling has been described as happy, strong, and active, with a strong desire to do work. The mind is described as calm.

Side effects didn't sound that bad either:

Side effects, although rare, may include dry mouth, increased or decreased urination, loss of appetite, and nausea or vomiting. Heavy use can result in a prolonged sleep

In the search feature on 2+2 I typed Kratom and found it was mentioned in a thread back in 2009 but that was about it. So my question is does anyone know about this herb? And should I stock up on it before the government decides what's best for me?

EDIT: Also, wiki says - Kratom has been known to prevent withdrawal symptoms in an opiate dependent person.

Thought I'd mention that if anyone out there knows someone they feel might be interested in hearing that.

Beargt?

i dont hear so well

i think youre the herb

wtf

Finally, a remedy for chronic heavy bones.

I haven't found one negative thing about this plant yet. No fatality has ever been reported and this plant has supposedly been ingested since the 19th century. Most often people would eat the leaves while they were working. It's completely legal in Europe and US but is a controlled substance in Australia and Finland. Wow US way to be cool let's not screw it up.

You can overdose on high doses but this just leads to hallucinations and nausea, none of which are irreversible.

Maybe a lot of people know about this idk. I've been "around" quite a bit and have never heard of it so I'm sure this will be good news to some as well. The tough part seems to be finding it. My friend lives far from me but there seems to be a few online "retailers" although I don't really trust those places.

Anyway, I'll post back with a trip report as soon as I have one.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/62...ghlight=kratom

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/62...ghlight=kratom

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/62...ghlight=kratom

There are a ton of them if you search for kratom

ty for these^^

farmillure? he is miloshes brathur!

Also I have done it and it's pretty mellow

lol, does anyone say this anymore?

This was big in our area growing up.. (as you prolly know)

Kratom refers to the plant Mitragyna speciosa Korth, a tree indigenous to Thailand.

Kratom is traditionally only used in Thailand, although some use in Malaysia has been reported. Besides kratom (or krathom), it also goes by the names ithang, kakuam, and in southern regions, thom. Use dates far enough back that its beginning can't be determined. In addition to being used as a narcotic drug in its own right, it is often used as a substitute for opium when opium is unavailable, or to moderate opium addiction. In folk medicine, it is often used to tread diarrhea. A small minority of users use kratom to prolong sexual intercourse.

In some parts of the country, it was said that parents would choose to give their daughters in marriage to men who used kratom rather than men who used marijuana. The belief is that kratom users are hard working, while marijuana users are lazy. This belief is also maintained by many of the users themselves, who report beginning use because of a desire to work more efficiently, and who say using the drug gives them a strong desire to do work.

The Thai government passed the Kratom Act 2486 which went into effect on August 3, 1943. This law makes planting the tree illegal and requires existing trees to be cut down. This law was not found effective, since the tree is indigenous to the country. Today, kratom is classed in the same enforcement group as cocaine and heroin by Thai law, and has the same penalties. One ounce of extract is punishable by death.

Side effects from long term use include anorexia and weight loss, insomnia, and a darkening of the skin, particularly on the cheeks, giving an appearance similar to a hepatic face. Among addicts, 30% report limited sexual desire and the need to use a combination of kratom and alcohol to become sexually stimulated. One study found 5 people who had psychotic conditions which may or may not have been revealed by very heavy kratom use. As discussed earlier, addiction seems to be a possibility if high doses are used. Some withdrawal symptoms reported by addicts include hostility, aggression, wet nose, inability to work, flow of tears, muscle and bone aches, and jerky limb movement.

standard

Just ordered an ounce of Premium Thai Kratom Capsules containing a gram of Kratom in each capsule. $17.99 USD 3-5 days bitches!!!!!

will report back

Looks pretty standard.

yea i dont thin kthey understood my pun

suicide plant ldo

i am familiar with this phrase, i lold

I wanted you to know that I still think of you and when I do its usually a mixture of fondness and pain. I look back at some of the good times we have shared together and appreciate that we were able to provide each other with love, acceptance and comfort. I want you to know that I really loved a lot about you and that what we shared meant something. It wasn't all bull****, we had something and it wasn't meaningless, and I think you realize this too, the whole thing was not a ****ing lie or mirage. When I think about you I remember the closeness I felt with you and the intense lust I had for you. Something about you made me lose myself and want to ravage you. I still want to hold your sweaty body and ravage you so hard that you completely lose yourself. I still want to **** you badly. I wish we had spent enough time together so I could experience your sexuality to the fullest, I know that I still haven't ****ed you in all the ways that I wish I had. I wish we had met earlier when we first started liking each other and we would have shared all those good times in person and ****ed each other in so many more ways. I want you to know that to this day I still lust for you. I wish we lived in the same area so we could sex each other in every way imaginable, we had that. We had the ability to **** each other with complete abandonment, it was working up to that stage. From time to time I reflect on all the good things we had, and I feel sadness that we are no longer on talking terms. As I'm typing this my eyes are welling up and I feel a warm pain through my whole body. You are still important to me Kratom. Now tears are starting to build up. You are forever a part of me. You are imprinted deep in my ****ing being. When I'm ****ing 90 years old I will still reflect on you from time to time. What we had was part of our short time on this earth before we perish and become nothing. It was important. That said, I want us to be part of each others lives in the present. I wan't to shoot the breeze with you. I am sad that we aren't talking to each other. So please add me back onto Skype because it's important (tears building again) for me to be your friend and part of your life.

Actually I believe Kratom is the Hebrew art of self-defense.

It's actually Kraken's docile older brother.

The eagle has landed! Not bad.. if it weren't for yesterday being Sunday I would've had these bitches ordered, shipped, and received in just four days.

Hopefully FullTilt's Happy Hour has a whole new meaning

..2 hrs 45 min later

Not as "stimulating" as I was hoping for, but definitely mellow. I don't really see much similarity to opiates, at least not the ones I have experience with. Occasionally I'll pop a vicodin just for that "in the zone energy" they give me and this is what I was hoping to accomplish with the Kratom.

Still not bad though and I have enough left for about 9 days so as far as price/quantity/effect it's pretty good. IMO for a legal sedative/pain reliever it get's about a 6.8 out of 10.

I can already tell there's virtually no negative comedown effects which is always a bonus. I'll keep it in my repertoire

You better pick your next three experimental drugs carefully because I can tell you are almost out of neuro receptors. Don't waste them!