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Originally Posted by Pawntificator
get a mac
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Originally Posted by Matjoez
i don't know nothing about pc's
i do know a thing or two about macs though
i love macs
i feel like there is a spider in my hair
Here is a rant that I wrote about Apple and if you are considering getting an Apple based computer I would encourage you to read this rant.
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Originally Posted by animal_chin Mac rant
Seriously Macs are the WAY overpriced and Apple is a ****ing **** company that can suck my dick. FFS. Apple's reliability score has fallen in recent years and now Asus and Lenovo beat it in market share % to repair call % ratio. Although Asus, Lenovo, Apple, Toshiba, Acer and HP/Compaq all have a greater percent market share than they have a repair share.
So Macs are not as reliable as other computer brands. That might be fine if they are cheaper than other brands, but guess what, they're not! Macs no longer use their own processors and have started to use intel based processors and nVidia dedicated or intel integrated graphics. You can even dual boot and use Windows XP on a mac (which is ****ing ******ed because why the **** would you pay so much extra for a Windows pc). So you can get the same exact ****ing computer from Dell for loads cheaper. A guy writing on ****ing MACWORLD dot ****ing com says this
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Originally Posted by MacWorldDouche
All those caveats aside, here's the bottom line: Strictly on the basis of specs and features, your money will go further with a Windows laptop than with an Apple laptop, whether you have $1000 or $2000 to spend.
The article is here He later goes on to say
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Originally Posted by MacWorldDouche
But does that mean MacBooks aren't a good value? That's where subjectivity comes into play. In my opinion, MacBooks, with the exception of the white $999 model, are indeed good values. I've owned both Macs and Windows PCs since the early 90s, and my Macs have tended to last longer and give me far fewer problems. And Macs are simply a joy to use, thanks to the Mac OS's many ingenious features and Apple's design savvy. I've rarely felt that way about a Windows computer.
Basically he is touting their reliability, which as we have previously discussed is going down. So unless you really, really ****ing like the Apple operating system then buying a piece of **** Mac is ******ed.
I did a quick comparison myself between the $2000 Macbook Pro and a Windows computer from xoticpc.com (the site that I got my computer from 2 years ago and have had zero problems). The only differences between the two machines were that the Windows machine had a slightly worse screen 1280x800 versus the Macs 1440x900 and slightly slower ram 800MHz versus the Macs 1066MHz. I doubt the ram speed would even make a 3% performance change in gaming or other applications. Another difference was that the Windows machine had a 7200rpm 320GB hard versus the Mac hard drive which was 320GB but only 5400rpm. The last difference was battery life, Apple claims a battery life of 7hours while the Windows based machine claims a life of 2 to 3 hours. The downfall of the Apple battery is that it is INSIDE your laptop. So if it breaks, and batteries do tend to ware out, then you have to take it to an Apple store and get screwed in the ass with repair charges. And you will be lucky if it just wares out, Mac batteries have been known to ****ing explode. For almost the same computer the Windows computer costs $1025. Almost half the price of the ****ing $2000 Mac. For that difference you could buy ****ing 8 batteries and keep them all as spares and have a ****load more battery life than the Mac. FFS I don't see how anyone with a ****ing brain can buy a man.
Microsoft knows that Apples are way overpriced. This is why they have been running their Laptop Hunter Add Campaign. And this campaign has been working. Microsoft COO Kevin Tuner had this to say about the campaign.
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Originally Posted by MicrosoftCOO
Two weeks ago we got a call from the Apple legal department saying, hey — this is a true story — saying, "Hey, you need to stop running those ads, we lowered our prices." They took like $100 off or something. It was the greatest single phone call in the history that I've ever taken in business. I did cartwheels down the hallway.
If that seriously does not get the point across that Macs are a huge waste of money nothing will.
But, you say you do like the Mac operating system. But why? "Macs can't get viruses" you say. WRONG! It is true that there are way more viruses for Windows based computers than Mac based ones, but this is because nobody wants to make a virus for a Mac because they don't want to only be able to infect 3.33% of computers world wide (Apples do make up 7.7% of the computer market share in the US though). Apples can get viruses though. ****ing Apple themselves is suggesting that users get anti virus software. Which is ****ing hilarious because in one of Apples commercials they make fun of Windows users for needing anit-virus. A Mac was even hacked in under 10 ****ing seconds. Ten seconds it took the mighty operating system to fall. "Yeah, but the Mac operating systems have way better programs" you say. I say "lol wrong again idiot."There are so many freeware programs out there on the internet that I would not be able to use if I owned a Mac. And if you wanted to do any sort of gaming on your Mac you would probably have to buy the $2000 Mac I mentioned above. The thing is most PC games are optimized for windows machines so you would either a) have to dual boot Windows (which is lol if you have a Mac) or b) live with ****tier performance because nothing is optimized for a mac. The ONLY reason I would possibly recommend somebody get a Mac is that if they needed it for video editing or audio production, as I heard Apple has some good programs for these tasks. These programs are not exactly cheap though Final Cut Express 4 and Aperature 2 both cost $200 each. So I bet one could get a much better deal by buying a Windows based machine and also buying different editing programs, but I don't know much about that stuff.
So why do people buy Macs? It is certainly not for their customer service as people with defective iMac screens found out. When people started noticing that their iMac screens were faulty (they were normal at the top, but displayed faded colors at the bottom) they went to the Apple forums to ask for help. When they did Apple didn't reply to any of their threads, they just ****ing locked and deleted them. But even though Macs are way overpriced, have mediocre reliability, get viruses, don't run games very well and one can't use most freeware programs on them people still buy them (although it is still a small percentage of the market). Why? It's because of brain dead Mac people like to show off how cool and hip they are because they own a Mac. This is the reason that Apple sells way more laptops than desktop computers (which up until this year desktops have always outsold laptops). This is the reason the iPhone is so well know, even though it has 1% of the global phone market share and only 8.2% of the smartphone market share. This is also the reason why things like Apple brand tv set-top boxes, servers and external storage devices are not widely popular, because you can't take these things out in public and show how cool you are. This is the exact message their commercials send and it's the exact reason why their computers are so ****ing overpriced. Because idiots will pay to be cool.
Cliffs
-Both Lenovo and Asus have a better reliability rating than Macs
-Macworld writer says Windows computers are a better deal
-Comparable computer costs almost twice as much from Apple than a Windows PC does
-Apple begged Microsoft to stop running their laptop hunter adds
-Macs can get viruses
-Apple recommends you get anti-virus and a Mac was hacked in 10 seconds
-Lots of freeware programs not available for Macs
-Macs don't run games as good as Windows based machines
-Apple deleates forum posts when people ask about defective iMac screens
-The only reason people buy Apple products is to show off how cool and hip they are.
If I where you I would also look at computers made by Compal or Sager. You may have never heard of these brands, but Compal is one of Taiwan's top producers of notebook PCs. Companies such as Dell, HP and Acer all outsource to Compal. So why should you get a Compal machine? They are at least the same quality as a Dell, HP, etc machine (usually much much better quality) but you don't have to pay the premium that Dell or HP puts on their computers so they are cheaper than computers from those companies.
Sites such as
www.xoticpc.com or
www.powernotebooks.com are the two that I would recommend. My friend ordered his computer from powernotebooks, and both I and my brother ordered our laptops from xoticpc. We each got excellent service and are all extremely happy with our notebooks. Stay away from sites such as
www.ibuypower.com . They have a history of providing
no customer service once they have your money and you have a notebook. You can look at
www.resellerratings.com for more information on what companies to buy from.
Now what laptop would I recommend? Well
this one would be about $1200. Get the T8100 processor and what ever operating system you want and possibly the 4gb of ram for $30. You don't really need that much ram, but obliviously it wouldn't hurt. It has a 17in screen with 1680 x 1050 resolution. Im assuming you want a screen that is large in size. On my 15.4 in laptop with 1680 x 1050 resolution I can fit 6 tables comfortably, but they might overlap. If you are nitty about that you could get
this computer, it's a bit more expensive (~$1700), but has a resolution of 1920 x 1200 and a better video card. If you want a laptop with a smaller screen
this one has a 15.4in screen with either 1680 x 1050 resolution or for $175 upgrade you could get 1920 x 1200 resolution. This is actually the same computer that my brother got a couple of months ago and he loves it. Any of these computers would have more than enough performance to run tables and what ever. My two year old notebook can run itunes, mozilla, 9 tables with pt2 and pahud just fine. You could probably find reviews of these laptops on
www.notebookreview.com . This is an excellent resource to use when buying a new laptop.
As for a monitor I would go with a 24 or 23in screen as I feel that is a much better bang for buck than getting a 30in screen.
This looks like a really good monitor. I bought an HP 24in monitor a couple years ago and I love it mainly because of the glossy screen. Don't let the HP brand fool you, my panel was made by either Samsung or HP. But this looks like the newer version of my monitor so thats why I'm recommending it. I can't find any reviews on it but, my got very favorable reviews at the time I bought it. But you can look around newegg for monitors. I would definitely buy the monitor from newegg. I've bought stuff from them at least 10 different times (including my own monitor) and the service has always been top notch.
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