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08-20-2017 , 08:37 PM
Just quick question do you fold here with 12bb vs UTG open? I did fold but im not 100% sure of this spot.

Just busted this mtt in 300, 65k field



[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $5 Buy-in (35,000/70,000 blinds, 7,000 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37813762

Hero (MP3): 864,544 (12.4 bb)
CO: 5,260,236 (75.1 bb)
BTN: 1,355,688 (19.4 bb)
SB: 1,976,964 (28.2 bb)
BB: 2,662,129 (38 bb)
UTG+2: 1,718,510 (24.6 bb)
MP1: 3,239,355 (46.3 bb)
MP2: 3,752,642 (53.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A J
UTG+2 raises to 161,000, 3 folds, CO calls 161,000, BTN calls 161,000, 2 folds
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08-21-2017 , 02:11 AM
Pretty read dependent - would fold against a tight player - shove against a loose one
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08-21-2017 , 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by oldgoat
Pretty read dependent - would fold against a tight player - shove against a loose one
this tbh
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08-21-2017 , 05:31 AM


He raised to 2.3bb EP2 (we were 8 handed at the moment) and started the hand with 24bb.
He was running 24/17 over 42 hands.
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08-21-2017 , 09:47 AM
Either way it is very borderline. Since I'm assuming this is close to bubble time, I'm folding.

Did I read that correctly, 65k players?

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08-21-2017 , 09:52 AM
yeah lol 65k players, sunday storm yesterday. Finished 295.
This hand which I folded I believe we were down to 330 players.

This is way past the bubble, bubble was 7k players left If i remember right.

I think with 12bb, 88+, AQ+ should be the range to shove here.
10bb or less probably 77+, AJ+

Close spot.
Thanks guys for your input
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08-21-2017 , 10:19 AM
Shove pre, u are playing with a very low stack. U must aquire chips to survive on the road to the FT.
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08-21-2017 , 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by III PRO III
yeah lol 65k players, sunday storm yesterday. Finished 295.
This hand which I folded I believe we were down to 330 players.

This is way past the bubble, bubble was 7k players left If i remember right.

I think with 12bb, 88+, AQ+ should be the range to shove here.
10bb or less probably 77+, AJ+

Close spot.
Thanks guys for your input
Sorry, misunderstood when you said you busted - I usually interpret that to mean not cashing. I knew the numbers didn't make sense, which is why I asked about the field size.

In that case you have to turn up the aggression and go for it.

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