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05-13-2009 , 06:03 PM

jurrasstoil

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Full Tilt Poker $11 + $1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t120/t240 Blinds - 7 players
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UTG: t1195
UTG+1: t3230
MP: t3784
CO: t1620
BTN: t1382
SB: t1089
Hero (BB): t1200

Pre Flop: (t360) Hero is BB with 6

4 folds, BTN calls t240, SB raises to t1089 all in, Hero ???

BTN is ******ed and most likely just FOS here. he was running 35/6 over 40 hands.
SB is a good reg and i think he has something like any pair, any ace, any broadway any decent king and Q8s+ in his range.

I'm really tempted to stick it in...

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05-13-2009 , 06:25 PM

nine_1969

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Do you believe you will be HU with the SB or do you think the button comes along for the ride? I don't mind a call if the button folds but think you are in really bad shape vs two hands even though the pot odds are good. If I am undecided as to whether he would call or not, I would just let this one go. See lots of spots like these in supers.

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05-16-2009 , 05:34 AM

mauri21

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didn't check it on wiz but I wouldn't. I think SB tightens his range when btn limps..

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05-16-2009 , 10:02 AM

zaxx19

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Meh, the button limp is teh weakness...but the SB beat you to it. Obv if Btn is sitting with A10 or AJ or something and calls we are so dead 3 ways...

I dont think sending it in with A6s is a good shove here, though ive done this MANY MANY times with reads. Problem is A6 is so easily dominated, and doesnt play THAT great against hands like K10 or j10 or anything...

We still have decent FE on a lot of players in the tourney...sit back and pick a better spot.

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05-16-2009 , 10:12 AM

MoneyBags

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has button high blind limped before and then folded to shove?
small blinds hand range looks stronger because of this limp on button.
i think you'll turn up with 3 outs alot of the time in this spot.
if it was just blind on blind i think i can squeeze a call.
in this spot though i fold.

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05-16-2009 , 10:16 AM

anytwofine

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Do you have info if btn is able to limp fold? If he was Id be more inclined to shove.

Its obviously pretty marginal and I'd probably let it go looking at it quick.

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05-16-2009 , 10:20 AM

Mr.o0

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SB has to know that he hasnt a lot of fe when he sticks it in because he button is so loose.i dont really think we are far ahead,if even, of sb range.i fold here and ship atc the next 2 hands.

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05-16-2009 , 10:42 AM

MikeRizz33

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the SB knows that the button limp is weak, and he isn't even considering your hand. In his mind he is getting 2 auto-folds, so his range can be huge here. He also has FE on both of you, which is an insta-range-widener. I call here based on that, and the fact that w/ 5 bbs A6s is kinda primo imo.

I do pretty well in stts, but am I wrong here? I think this is too marginal of a spot to ever call a regs play right or wrong...a fold is not crazy and a call is def. not crazy either. How can we really know what the uber-correct play is? or is it always going to be read based on the sb's recent activity - I would def. be considering that as well obv.

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05-16-2009 , 01:08 PM

vyoutz

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BVB it's an easy push over.......... w/ the BTN involved, I think you have to look at this from an overcall perspective.......... I'd tighten my range to about 10% or something like 55+ ATs+ ATo+ KJs+......... I'd lean toward the fold.........

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05-16-2009 , 01:40 PM

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jurrasstoil

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BTN is loose and i'm pretty sure SB is observative (ie. a good reg) and will shove about top 33% or something (see range in OP). He would openship ATC ofc. I don't worry too much about BTNs range. I don't think he would openlimp A9o there or any pair >66. Maybe AA and KK...

I would obv snap SBs openshove as if A6s would be AA.

As for "lots of FE in the next hands": i'll have 3.5bb.

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