I'm not entirely sure this is the correct place to post this, but how do you guys evaluate your play overall? I don't mean a specific hand or looking at a certain ICM spot. I used to play a lot of cash games, but recently (since October) I've started trying out MTTs.

What sort of stats do you guys look at to see well you're doing? I know in cash your BB/100 is what people look at, I think I'm at 9-10 BB/100 in my tournaments but I don't have a clue if that's good, bad, or even useful. Are ROI or ITM% the most important stats? If so, what are reasonable numbers?

My red line and blue lines over ~25k hands looks pretty normal for tag moving towards lag (losing slightly/breakeven without showdown, most profits via showdown), is this normal? Should I be playing more lag?

And most importantly, how do you evaluate your normal stats like vpip/pfr/3b or even steal? I'm guessing pros don't publish their stats so I don't really know what to go for. Any help/advice would be appreciated.

Thanks!

Ofcourse you can just look at if you're winning or losing money over the MTT's you have played. also if you have a hud, which i think you probably do. You can check some graphs.

I am using All-in Adj BB/100 winning rate. if it's 5 then I am OK, if it's 10 I should move higher on the stakes, if it's 0 I should go lower.

same, but I add stack size of bb<25

However, I spent some time into this question not long ago(because I was running poorly basically). So even though this stat imho is most important, due to complexity or maybe straight impact of variance in MTT's it is hard to evaluate your gameplay by stats alone. This is because one single misplayed hand deep into tourney can cost you a ton, and when you will hardly see this mistake in your stats, the impact of it for your ROI will be huge. Also there is huge luck factor, if you will hit alot and hotrun it will be very different case and might not show your actual skill.

I would say if you have solid stats and possitive ROI without major hits you are doing okay.

Now the question I wondering aswell - is lag really more profitable in low stakes? I always leaned towards more ABC play here, as field in low stakes by default is more soft and you can punish them by just playing bookish TAG style. But.. I think I still am too much LAG myself :/

I agree that missing one large pot can significantly skew All-in Adj BB/100, this is why it's only reliable on a really large sample size - I use 100K as the minimal required number of hands to assess the possibility to move up on the stakes[currently on $3.50].
As for LAG vs TAG - i think that we can adjust depending on the opponents' style...Being aggressive versus tight players(for example by x/r a lot) might be very profitable on a long run.

ROI is the most important stat in tournaments. The ranges I found were:

< 0% very bad
0% - bad
+ 10% OK
+ 20% - 30% - very solid. 97% of the player pool cannot achieve this ROI over a large sample.
> 30% Only the best can achieve over 30% over a large sample.

It is not possible to control the ROI and it's certainly not the most important stat for evaluating the quality of my play.

Trust me, I will not trade my ROI for any persons good "stats."

But I would be willing to guess that there are players with great stat values that would be willing to trade their stats for my ROI.

Yeah, ROI is not important at all.

I will just leave this here:

Is this for real?^

this is actually one of the first graphs i found in google:
https://www.pokerlistings.com/blog/t...t-poker-graphs

the point is there is alot of recreational players(of which some is just terrible) who has tremendous ROI, because they were able to bink something big

edit: check 3rd graph in my link

Play $1-$5 mtts over a decent sample. If you can't beat this level at 20% ROI you know you are bad at poker.

What's a good sample for MTTs? 20k?50k?100k?

Oh, I am not saying that ROI is not important! In the end the ultimate reason we play is to have this number as big as possible - as with any form of investment[unless we are recreational players].
I just think that it's hardly possible to control the ROI due to variance. We can only play each hand to the best of our abilities by making +EV decisions that converts to a good stat(like All-in Adj bb/100) that in a long run should convert to a good ROI.
Using such a stat is just a suitable way to track the progress.

If you can beat cash you'd probably gain most from grinding HRC/ICMizer.