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109 Kick Off Nut flush draw early on, All Options suck on Turn ? 109 Kick Off Nut flush draw early on, All Options suck on Turn ?

03-12-2018 , 10:37 PM
Hello I am Pooker Nooob

I have following help to improve my game

blinds 125/250

Hero 14K stack (A9ss) Playing tight
Villain 8300 ( over 35 hands playing 17/26, CB of 67%)

Open to 2.5 bb by villain utg, hero completes.

Flop: 67ssKh

Villain bets exact 50% pot(875) (leaving 6700 behind), Hero has 13.5K behind and 2300 in pot ?

Whats the best way to play this hand.

Preflop: call is okay ?
Post flop: Call, Raise/ get it in ?
Spoiler: Turn all options suck ?

Whats the best way to play this hand ?

Spoiler:
Hero flatted, turn was K clubs,
Hero checked, villain bet 42% (1500 into 3500 leaving 5.2K behind, we 2.2x;ed it and villain folded.

I think i just got lucky since villain folded and post viewing it seems a ridiculous spot to raise, as I would have to get it in if he jammed with so little equity ?

All options seem bad as played right ?
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03-13-2018 , 03:10 AM
you say you completed, so i'll assume you're in BB

call pre fine

all non-fold options possible otf - c/c, c/r, lead
if we c/r then we're repping a range that includes Axss, other multidraws, sets and 2pr. size accordingly and barrel turn. you're committed with this line, but maximising fold equity also.
if we c/c were balancing against Kx hands like KQ KJ
lead is a little tacky and i'd prefer with less equity leading into a fit-or-fold V.

turn is interesting regardless of your line. V will no longer fold any Kx and can include some counterfeited 67 combos in your range.

the line you took is creative for sure. V never folds trips/better but will fold 88+ and have the benefit of getting another bet from V. the downside is (of course) that you can never fold after raising, and you're busto ~80% of the time. tbh, i don't mind it because the K turn reduces the Kx combos in V range. V can also see your check as weakness and be betting all 88+ for value against your 6x 7x s and sd range, but have an unwavering plan to b/f if raised.

leading turn seems odd and reps little. c/f is possible but seems weak. c/c is possible but V gets a cheap showdown and undeserved reward with AT+ 88+ too often for my liking.

nh wp imho
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03-14-2018 , 06:30 PM
Completing is fine. Normally think I c/r flop, mainly because c/c c/c c/f absolutely sucks and we have enough equity to gii. I kind of prefer the delayed c/r here there with the board being so draw heavy. Think most V realize draws make up a lot of your c/r range otf. Things get a bit more trivial on the turn w/ the second K. Overall wp
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03-18-2018 , 11:47 AM
With villains stack size and the pot size after their turn bet, I would just shove it in and maximize fold equity.
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03-18-2018 , 12:15 PM
Without reading the spoiler: I just c/r shove on the flop. A standard raise to 2,600 would be over 30% of the effective stack size at that point. It avoids the mess on the turn and maximizes both fold equity and overall equity if you are called (because you have 2 cards to improve).

As played I would just c/r all in on the turn. Leaving some back only helps if you can bluff on the river with enough fold equity which I doubt you have there.
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03-20-2018 , 05:26 PM
Pre is fine. I would c/r small on flop. C/jam on the flop just screams "I HAVE A DRAW PLEASE FOLD". If you were 3betting for value, you would 3bet small to about 2400 so do that.

As played, I like the check/jam OTT.
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03-21-2018 , 10:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by poloplaya1414
C/jam on the flop just screams "I HAVE A DRAW PLEASE FOLD".
I agree with this and tend to be more value heavy with this line these days, especially in cash games.
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