Scheduele looks good

But one question Bryan, do you know when the 6max Hyper-Satelittes will start running for the events? Would be nice seeing them in lobby soon!

Hi Bryan, schedule looks amazing on the first glance, great job!

13:00 ET -- Ev 49: $320 NL Hold'em [Mix-Max, Final Part 1, 8-Max]

can u specify how this will play out please?

thx

Would it be possible to move the $1k PLO8 championship back to at least Sat. 9/17? Do you realize some people have to travel to play COOP events? Putting the NLO8 & PLO8 championships more than a week apart, so that it will take more than a week of vacation to play both (esp. only a couple months after WSOP) is not going to maximize turnout for those events. I don't see why they need to be so far apart.

Also, +1 to a lower buy-in FLO8. I know this is probably talking to a brick wall again, but more O8, more FR O8, and where's Courchevel?

Don't like the idea to have tournaments on sunday that have more than 1 reentry.
Would be cool to have more phase tournament.( i can only see the first one the kickoff)
would be great to have a lower and higher bi phase later( maybe 109/215$ and 1000$) and have a final day on the last sunday.
Whats your plan with the marathon? How long will it take?

Terrible schedule, and terrible logic.

As for WCOOP not being tiered...SCOOP is more prestigious than WCOOP anyway. If you care about identifying the best, you have to gauge it over as large of a sample as possible. If having more events dilutes the value of one win, then it doesn't matter. WSOP in Las Vegas turned to the SCOOP format with people multitabling and playing way more events than in the past, and nobody complains except about the venue itself.

Tier WCOOP, and only call highest tier the championship event to make it different. This is what the WSOP does.

As for the schedule, all 6 max for O8 events is dumb, and no fun. The majority of people prefer 6-max in cash, but that doesn't carry over to mtts. The buyins for the stud and mixed game events are either too high or too low, and in general, the buyins in WCOOP are still way too low for most HS players to bother playing. You see pros planning a month around SCOOP, but not so much in WCOOP. Just a few events.

Very sad that mini wcoop buyins are not up for discussion. So much potential there and everyone would be happier. I see no downside to it.
I hope you reconsider ,if not this year maybe next.

Schedule looks okay, many exciting tournaments but a bit too much PSKO and definitely too much reentries.

Buy-ins look a liiittle bit too high and would keep a lot of mid stakes regs out of the series.

The last Saturday looks really weak. A $2100 vanilla freezeout would be amazing.

Less PSKO please

Yes, having buyins ranging from 1-11 or from 11-100 doesn't change that. It will still be a companion series.

Again, I totally understand your point, but it seems kind of moot - a $320 WCOOP tournament is out of reach for the majority of players interested in playing a $33. The buyins still have a huge gap between them and target a different demographic.

Possibly. In terms of the buyins overlapping with main WCOOP events, it would be on different dates/times. I think it's clear that should someone have $100 to spend, they would rather play a WCOOP main event with a prestigious title and a much higher guarantee than a WCOOP mini event with the same buyin, so I don't see a lot if any cannibalization happening.

In terms of the buyins overlapping with satellites, yes, I can see satellite participation being slightly lower (since mid-stakes players would play both a mini-WCOOP tour and a satellite, but micro stakes players/recs would perhaps choose only the mini-WCOOP tour). However, this participation difference would be greatly offset by the amount of people shot-taking WCOOP main events after cashing big in a mini-WCOOP event, as the mini prizepools would be big and significant should the minis have a 1/10th buyin. So I would expect total WCOOP main event participation to be higher by running a mid-stakes mini-WCOOP version alongside it.

Noone asked for a tiered version, just that mini-WCOOP buyins are increased. I don't see how having the main WCOOP series and the mini-WCOOP series at 1/100 can not be compared to SCOOP, but having the mini-WCOOP series at 1/10 totally makes it a second SCOOP.


I know you said such posts would be futile, but I wanted to give it a shot anyway. At least consider changing the buy-ins - it would increase WCOOP participation, it would greatly increase normal tour schedule participation and it would make many, many people happy and more importantly make them want to fire Pokerstars and play every MTT daily as all guarantees would sky-rocket. It wouldn't cannibalize main WCOOP, it wouldn't turn it into SCOOP any more than having the buyins at 1/100 would. So even though you said it is set in stone, give it some thought. See how much support this idea is getting.


PS: By main WCOOP event I obviously mean any tournament on the main WCOOP schedule, not the actual WCOOP championship main event.

will there be a 1k super high roller in the mini wcoop?

less pskos, less re entries

To stop overlap of a 1/10 mini WCOOP just cap BI's at $55. ranging $11-$55. simple. Great idea if it were somewhat worthwhile (and still not interrupting WCOOP, which $11-$55 would accomplish).

schedule looks good...great job

but not sure about that 1575$ ST an TT. No need to get fancy there and keep it at 1050$ and 2100$ in the last week.

for the 100k im lookin forward to rail that one but doubt that more than 30-40 people will play...

u offered great satellites for the scoop mains on the last day. Please give the players couple of reg speed sats with 5-10 seat gtd. During scoop especially weekday tourneys had the worst satellite offering ever...please offer 27$ and 82$ deadlines to the 1ks which u had in the past and overall more different buy in deadlines....530$ deadlines to a 2k dont accomplish much and even got cancelled during scoop

3 reentries on the sunday warm ups is just way too much

Quite silly to so rigorously hold on to the special thing that makes wcoop wcoop while it's so clear what the people and the market wants and what makes a great series be great. Wcoop could be the biggest event in online poker. As is its not even remotely close

That said, schedule looks good

If 1/100 is too low and 1/10 is too high, just do 1/20 then. that way you compromise and please everyone.

Extremely disappointed to see flagships sundays being re-entrys.

Overall schedule looks fantastic.
I think making the SPHR a $100k is overkill. $20k during SCOOP was absolutely amazing and the field was huge, why go so extreme, the player pool will be super limited.
12:30 ET -- Ev 53: $102,000 NL Hold'em [8-Max, Super High-Roller] (max re-entries: 1)

Please put the 320$ 8-Game and Stud8 to an earlier timeslot. Starting on Thursday at 22:00 CET will simply force out any european who has a job, and that will massively reduce field-sizes in already quite small events. 19:00 CET would be way better for a Thursday. Same time on Friday or Saturday would be best.

Instead of (or in addition to) having two price points each for NLO8 & PLO8, why not FR & 6-max? You have 3 NL/PL O8 MTTs on the weekend of Sep. 10-11. Kudos for that! Please consider moving the 1k PLO8 championship back more towards that time frame, so you at least have the NL, PL, and FL O8 championships within a week's time.

I know it's unpopular around these parts, but I think you are absolutely doing the right thing with 1/100th buyin. I love the idea of mWCOOP.

If the mWCOOP was 1/10th, what we'd see is many people passing up taking shots at the WCOOP and passing up playing equally priced sats into the WCOOP. The pricepoint of sub $11 is perfectly positioned to give players who never have a chance to take shots at the WCOOP something to look forward do.

Anyway, I know you have thought deeply about it, so I don't need to sit and explain it back to you. Just giving my +1.

oh and I love seeing this

Yeah Brian come on u said micro gotta be 1/100th so 1k seems fair right? It's for enjoyment remember

Schedule looks good.

Please have reasonable guarantees. You guys dropped the ball on scoop so hard.

The really important jumps are 750k vs 1mil, 50k vs 100k+, 150k vs 250k+, etc.

Also, please, please, for one time, can you have a special edition sunday not have a 1.5mil gtd or less. Be ambitious a little, put out a 2mil/3mil/5mil! guarantee.

+1 this was ridiculous at this years scoop
or at least listen to our feedback when u announced the guarantees and be openminded to change them

seems pretty flawed logic to not listen to the masses and capping mini wcoop at $11 'its not up for discussion' tho

First off, the main schedule looks awesome. Great job.


We know that second chance events were removed since the buyins were big enough to compete with actual WCOOP events.

But SCOOP proves that having tiered buyins during a series can still result in simultaneously successful high, mid, and low stakes turnouts.

So Mini-WCOOP isn't filling the void of second chance events, and it's not really addressing any demand for a low stakes MTT series seeing as MM just completed, and the argument that it can't be 1/10th buyins because WCOOP would suffer seems to be disproven by the unparalleled success of SCOOP this year.

So I think Mini-WCOOP as is probably a mistake in some way. That being said, its never existed before, so the fact that it does now is probably a step in the right direction as far as most posters are concerned.


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