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Old 07-13-2017, 08:01 PM   #1
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****unofficial Partypoker Powerfest suggestions thread****

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lets help the sites actually trying to do whats good for the players rather than investors make september a massvie breakout month for all sites but stars as much as possible. in light of the reccent, and lets be honest not very recent changes stars has done i ve grown tired of my constructive feedback constantly being ignored in favor of ripoff rakeback and spin&goes. i hope this thread can serve as a decent idea pool for the big series in september specific to the strenths of each site. i ve made a similar thread for 888's eclipse series.
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Old 07-13-2017, 08:16 PM   #2
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Re: ****unofficial Partypoker Powerfest suggestions thread****

i believe a separate thread for this specific series is in order so long as the micro series hasnt popped yet such that valueable ideas specific to a september series dont get lost in a thred where generic suggestions are being made. no disrespect emant to wards bryan ( i m actually a huge fan of yours and hope this is making life a little bit easier)

i ll start this off by mentioning the good the bad and the ugly of past series on party

the good:

structures have been improved not too long ago to allow for variable level timing which has made deeper stages play much more pleasantly

freezeouts have seen quite huge popularity in series

in the past, there have been amazing promos rewarding people just for participating in x number of series events with tickets


the bad:

whats been a striking issue to me in the past is the dull layout of the series. every day has looked the same. a 20k fo, a 50k reentry, a 100k peaktime reentry and a 30k 6max turbo for the 109 buyin range. there s nothing at the $55 buyin level which really should be MASSIVE given all we have seen in miniwcoop, winamax and other sites runnign massive events at 55$ prize point. i cant speak for the above $215 level as i dont play it but variety is key. both in starting times and the buyin and structures. zero rebuys is a terrible thing given u re the only site wehre the s currently any variety of palyable rebuys available. leave the super deepstack games to 888, your niche clearly is well structured rebuys and freezeouts.


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sadly stars has set in stone days wehre action is dominated by big buyins. tuesdays and thursdays are days where its definitely feasible to push the envelope a bit. u have phase technology, dont run phases to the 5k main every day. run them on those days twice. make a 500/1k psko on thursdays. make a spicy 500/1000 fo on a tuesday. make those be 6max in the second week. add an early peaktime 215$ 6max on a saturday and add a phased $215 with a juicy structure for sudnay that has a second day on monday. you have the perfect chance to get massive given how terrible wcoop traditianlally has been for mid stakes players. i d be a massive proponent for SCOOPifying your series with 3 tiers. look at the data. scoop works. it makes ppl happy. you NEED to have lower buyin mtts with the same structures as the higher ones and making them phased is perfect bc that gives u the chance to make them 2-day

i would kill for a $5.50/$55/$530 6max pko multiday or a $22/215/2100 8max freeze on a sunday. and i guarantee the overall response will be huge. having set in stone buyins and structures is a massive bonerkiller.

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Old 07-14-2017, 12:49 AM   #3
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Re: ****unofficial Partypoker Powerfest suggestions thread****

Things to consider for next series;
* variety of buyins/6max 55 and 215s would be super popular and could easily put a guarantee for 1000 players Any given day during september. Will easily reach gtd esp with re entrys.
* previous series didnt feel special at all except on sundays, it was just a bunch of small guarantee events (speaking for 109+), you should rather have a few bigger gtd mtts and the regular schedule Will still run on the side, no need to Make Every tournament on the site to a "powerfest event" just to reach X number of events.
* run 1k freezeouts on tues/thurs/sundays.
* some promo for the 530s IF you're going to run 3 identical Every day. Maybe "reach itm in all of them and you get 1 free 530 ticket" or "finaltable all of them on the same day and you win a Punta Cana package"
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Old 07-14-2017, 10:44 AM   #4
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Re: ****unofficial Partypoker Powerfest suggestions thread****

I think it is extremely important to make it clear what % of the field is getting paid in the phase tournaments, and NOT allow direct buy-in into Phase 2.

Not sure if understand OPs suggestion for phases correctly, maybe he's saying the same but: make a phased tournament where the last phase 1 is on Sunday peak time, and Phase 2 is actually the day 2 of the tournament. You can ensure a big turnout this way, and not need the direct buy-in into Phase 2.
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Old 07-14-2017, 11:53 AM   #5
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Re: ****unofficial Partypoker Powerfest suggestions thread****

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I think it is extremely important to make it clear what % of the field is getting paid in the phase tournaments, and NOT allow direct buy-in into Phase 2.

Not sure if understand OPs suggestion for phases correctly, maybe he's saying the same but: make a phased tournament where the last phase 1 is on Sunday peak time, and Phase 2 is actually the day 2 of the tournament. You can ensure a big turnout this way, and not need the direct buy-in into Phase 2.


I feel like having the possibility to buy into phase 2 is great to let lower stakes players play bigger tournaments. Like When buy in to phase 2 is 109 and phase 1 is 11, wouldnt that tournament be super soft for mid-high stakes regs given lots of weaker players advance?


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Old 07-14-2017, 03:52 PM   #6
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That's what sattelites are for - then you play the target with the same starting stack as the others. If you survive phase 1 with a stack below 500k, you will be at a clear disadvantage compared to the people who buy-in directly in Phase 2. Plus you will have paid more rake.

If you manage to be in the 1/10 of the field that goes through to phase 2, you should be itm. Or you should know in advance that you're essentially regging a tournament where only around 1/10 × 1/7 = 1/70 are paid.

Again, the fact that stacks are carried makes this totally different from a sattelite.
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Old 07-15-2017, 07:52 AM   #7
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Re: ****unofficial Partypoker Powerfest suggestions thread****

I was specifically talking about making a way to have mtts be multi day freezeouts. Because things like the 215$ milly took sth dumb like 17 hours in one go starting at peaktime. That's just unbearably long. Make it a phase and finish phase one when there s 80 players left. Easy game
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Old 07-20-2017, 06:55 PM   #8
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definitely agree with 2 day tournaments. much needed in big events like these.
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Old 07-21-2017, 08:15 PM   #9
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Re: ****unofficial Partypoker Powerfest suggestions thread****

Feedback about previous schedules has actually been very positive. People really enjoyed the fact they could play the vanilla tournaments. One previous alternative could have been to make some tournaments 8 handed but now all tournaments are 8 handed I don't think making some tournaments 9 handed would be a very good idea.

There was some 6max last series but of course can add a little bit more.

Suggestion for less events and bigger gtes I don't think is viable. Our guarantees daily were way bigger than direct competitors by 10x on most cases and I think removing events would be directly against what the mass feedback we've received.

Running 1k freezeouts instead of 530s on Tuesday I don't think is really a huge thing. 530 will perform a lot better because of the satellite system we have. We can potentially try one out and see how it does.

Giving away free packages to punts Cana if you play all 530s etc. I don't really see why we would need to do this, participation was very successful.

Phases lobby and info 100% needs and will be more clear this time round.

2 day tournaments I think it would be nice to introduce, I think it would be risky to do for the whole schedule though, a lot of our players are recreationals and qualify through satellite system, it's important to continue to attract this player group (although potentially more would play if it finished earlier, let's test it out imo
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Old 07-21-2017, 10:43 PM   #10
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Re: ****unofficial Partypoker Powerfest suggestions thread****

What about $215 and $55 events during the week? Thats the most important IMO. 22-109-530 are huge gaps.

Did daily 530 100k gtd during weekdays get less Than 200k prizepool last series? IF not, make it 200k gtd and they would be way more appealing to play for everyone

I still think participation would increase alot IF you had some promo for the 530s. For example I would never think about playing the 530 turbo on party but would snap Reg IF you had a promo like that. Would be very surprising IF im the only One.

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Old 07-22-2017, 03:04 AM   #11
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Re: ****unofficial Partypoker Powerfest suggestions thread****

IF. And that's a big IF
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Old 07-22-2017, 05:25 AM   #12
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Re: ****unofficial Partypoker Powerfest suggestions thread****

If there is $215 or $55 during the week its very likely to be uber reggy because of the satellite offerings being targeted towards $11/$109/$530, but maybe adding mega sats is the best way to do it.
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Old 07-22-2017, 06:11 AM   #13
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Re: ****unofficial Partypoker Powerfest suggestions thread****

There are Sats paths to the title right so there are already there.

Also the big brawl is a great daily, it attracts recs. Different buying keeps it from being so repetitive
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Old 07-28-2017, 01:23 PM   #14
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Re: ****unofficial Partypoker Powerfest suggestions thread****

working on making tournaments that finish at 7am to be 2 days, the big $1m guarantees on Sunday for example.
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Old 07-28-2017, 04:14 PM   #15
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Great to hear that was legit the one big issue I had with last powerfest
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Old 07-28-2017, 07:05 PM   #16
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Imho $22 buyin range powerfest tourneys should run during the whole powerest, not only first week. You should want these players on party whole series, not just a first week. I can imagine that somebody who doesnt have a roll for $109 tourneys will play the first week $22 on party and when the second week with $109 starts, he will move volume mainly to XL Series and WCOOP where he can find variety of low-mid buyins below $109.

Definitely +1 for $55 events and possibly for sats to $55 tourneys.
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Old 07-28-2017, 07:45 PM   #17
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Running 1k freezeouts instead of 530s on Tuesday I don't think is really a huge thing. 530 will perform a lot better because of the satellite system we have. We can potentially try one out and see how it does.
I actually think that this is really good idea. Poker series should be about unique experiences and this could be one for party now. You dont have any 1k offerings and you dont have that many freezouts with big prizepools. It just doesnt feel the same way having 3 x $530 if you can re-enter each two times every day. Having bigger buyin freezout is much more exciting. You will value your tournament life much more which will create unique experience now, when majority of party offerings are re-entries. Try at least one or two pls . I suppose there will be satellites to 1k main running daily, so you can make tickets available also for this 1k tuesday HR.
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Old 07-30-2017, 04:54 AM   #18
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The one thing I really dislike about Powerfest, and I know a lot of people feel the same way, is how dull it looks. Replacing regular daily mtts with events called powerfest #n just doesnt feel/look as exciting as the wcoop events which are for the most part unique to the daily stars schedule ( i mean their daily/weekly counterparts usually still run as a separate tournament or in a lot of instances the event is completely different than any standard tournament ) .

That said, Powefest is an amazing series in regards to structures, gtds, number of events etc so keep up the great work!
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Please, give more action outside nlhe.

Need more 6-max omaha hi and 6-max omaha hi-lo for next powerfest. It has been very poor last year
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The one thing I really dislike about Powerfest, and I know a lot of people feel the same way, is how dull it looks. Replacing regular daily mtts with events called powerfest #n just doesnt feel/look as exciting as the wcoop events which are for the most part unique to the daily stars schedule ( i mean their daily/weekly counterparts usually still run as a separate tournament or in a lot of instances the event is completely different than any standard tournament ) .

That said, Powefest is an amazing series in regards to structures, gtds, number of events etc so keep up the great work!
This is the kind of point. If we run random gimmick tournaments they won't be successful. Some competitors with similar player pool to us have tried and almost alwuas failed and their schedules are full of guarantees 1/10th the size of ours. We try to run very big guarantees with great structures which people can play every day alongside tournaments on other sites and so far the feedback (turn outs) have been amazing. If we changed things into kore gimmicky then I feel the participation would be a lot lower.

To freshen it up I think a little more 6max and slightly different buy ins is probably the smoothest and smartest transition atm. There is huge things coming in the future that are confirmed and everybody will be way way way way more than satisfied in regards to wider offer during s series.
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Old 07-30-2017, 07:38 AM   #21
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pads no one is asking for gimmicks, Powerfests in the past have literally had the same schedule and structure repeated daily for the entire series, it make the series less fun to play imo. This system of only a few buy in's all starting at the same time is just awful.

Just a little example, why can't we have more rebuy's with a different structure? or some 4 max mtts? All other sites have no problem doing this in a series.
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Old 07-30-2017, 12:01 PM   #22
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Please, give more action outside nlhe.

Need more 6-max omaha hi and 6-max omaha hi-lo for next powerfest. It has been very poor last year
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Old 07-30-2017, 03:45 PM   #23
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Re: ****unofficial Partypoker Powerfest suggestions thread****

If implying that NLO8 / PLO are gimmick formats that pretty much sums up the problem. At that point every format except MTT vanilla/PSKO Texas Hold'em is gimmick.

More 55$ and 215$ events would be fine (why not 11$ as well).

Are the dates decided yet for upcoming Powerfest? Would help up planning ahead so that no trips or something else happens to get scheduled over it.
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3-26, schedule will be here soon.
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Old 07-31-2017, 08:27 AM   #25
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Here's the dates of the "championship" events during powerfest

https://t.co/XLWVL5OXkn?amp=1
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