I wish this trick worked in live tournaments. Had some tough tables in London

It should be totally random for sure. I don't really see how a player changing tables negatively affects their experience (as a whole).

Not having hands on these players in large field mtts. In the end you will be having 20 hands on every player which brings you basically nothing.

But hey, we don't use HUDs. But we lose any table image we might just created by doing a good river call, bluffing the biggest reg at the table etc..

there are some assumptions to be found in the following:

the table balancing method was optimal. someone broke it by trying to optimize it even more. the draft read: biased table balancing method.

Has this been fixed? I've only played a few sessions since WCOOP so I haven't had much time to observe the exploit since making the OP.

I tried to continue discussing the issue further via email with Stars because I didn't want to feed the moronic trolls who came out in full force when I made the OP, but Stars has failed to deliver anything but generic responses to me. I want to reiterate that this is a serious game integrity issue and that the people who have exploited it have gained a big, unfair edge on everyone else.

This is the other point that I want to address:

As I mentioned in the OP, a friend of mine, an extremely prominent and high volume player inquired about this issue with Stars MONTHS ago and was brushed off. By the end of WCOOP it was very clear to me and my friends that this exploit did in fact exist, and following my trip to UKIPT IoM, where I had multiple discussions with various Stars staff about the exploit, it was clear to me that fixing this was not a major priority. With that said, I find it disingenuous at best for you to say that you were only aware of it "a few weeks ago" and that my OP was irrelevant in regards to your "desire to make a change."

Disgraceful.

Agree with everyone who says table moves should be completely random. Its part of the "playing experience" of tourneys and can be a positive or negative for the player. There's no need to complicate this with an "x" - just remove seating status as a factor in table moves.

Unfortunately it wouldn't be the only example of disingenuous spin from PS lately. The culture of the company has definitely changed.

+1 to making sitting out status a non-factor with re-seating players.

So much wrong with this. Certain regs could be sitting out as soon as they get seated to the right of a player they don't want to be OOP to which means they have the massive advantage of only ever playing hands in position v that player. Also, aside from the benefit of a potentially easier table, there should be more blind stealing opportunities at these new tables against the players who are genuinely sitting out.

Thanks for this post OP. Most would have just kept their mouths shut and used it to their advantage.

Well, it took 18 days but I finally got an email back about this from Mike Jones.

I won't copy paste the whole thing here in order to let Mike address the crowd himself, but no, it has not been fixed. Maybe it will get done by January. This is the kind of service we get for our rake, an unfair game and an indifferent attitude towards getting it fixed, and now they're going to charge us even more to play. lol.

Mike, the floor is yours. Let's see you try and sell this 'sorry but it takes time to fix things' attitude to the players.

Sitting out should never be a factor. And I say this as the occasional -ev recreational player they sound like they're trying to protect. If you play an mtt you're going to get moved. It's part of the experience.

Could at least make it against the rules in the interim

Are we going to start calling regs out who we see do this? Its obviously really scummy and people are still doing it. Just watched Setherson2 do it in the 265 ko. Took him a bit longer than normal as he had to sit in to peel one off.

i tried to do it today out of curiosity as much as anything when i was watching the football, 3 orbits in a 1k runner field and didnt move

Tried it multiple times for the lolz and never worked either

In order to move you, you have to be 9 people on a table and a guy on a table with 8 should bust (and of course from all the hands in the tournament your table must finish first, so they take a player from your table and not from another one).

#somuchedge

I am waiting for someone to tell the world how to win Ax vs KK 50% of the time in aipf situations. I still can't figure how people do it...

think ismo is pretty close to figuring it out, at least in turbos

I think it should work every time the field reaches one above a multiple of 9, but I tried it earlier and it didn't work so maybe they've fixed it without telling us.

unless of course someone else was sitting out at another table!

That is sick!

think steve has created the thread for amusement and to see everyone sitting out missing hands at his tables lol

playing hands>sitting out

#DatEdgeTho

How bout if you sit out 'x' hands you should be moved to a table full of pros?

^^WINNER WINNER, CHICKEN DINNER!

How long has this trick been out for? Havent heard of it but i did recall some players sitting out though i never understood it.

lol at this thread, because i have had the worst thing happen to me on stars with 40 left in the saturday speedway, player called rouliroul sits out after folding from UTG +1 (so im assuming he delibrately sat out?) UTG he is still sat out, then in bb he his again sat out (says sitting out on player right)

me and the guy who is sat out are 13bb effective, a 2.2bb jam comes to me in teh sb with bb "sitting out" so i rip iso , i have hotkey so can shove and knows soon as this action is taken the hand is dead, as the chips fly towards him he sits in and takes 2 seconds to call with 66 , was really strange as we all know when we make an action when player is sat out or "sitting out on name" hand is dead and sitting back in is not the issue once my action is made, did he get the miracle 0.01 second time frame to sit back in, did he do this on purpose ? i am a Uk grinder so could well be a glitch but who knows, this sitout trick could work as a level

If you were closing the action in the sb, since bb can't call when sat out, why did you shove?