Qtr Million Freeroll steak for a good cause; I won't donate it all as I'm scammer Nick Rainey - Page 68 - MTT Poker Strategy

Didn't MI_T and PA just part ways because PA was moving to Monte Carlo? That's what I thought...

Not heard of this rumour yet but should indeed get cleared up.

That is the story that Nick tells but people have been alluding to the above for awhile on 2+2.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...k#post20422871

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08-13-2010 , 10:21 AM

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Tkptw

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Well all I can say is i am not Mr. Nick Rainey. I have supported him but I have also been in direct contact with LizardKing through personal messages, he can confirm this. I have never had over the top messages bashing anyone ( i may have said LizzKing should chill out, but I also said his questions were warrented), and I have stated I am pretty dissapointed in how this all went down. For me Nick was a good story to look up to when I first started grinding. Who wouldnt look to his work ethic as a good example when you are first starting to take poker serious?

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08-13-2010 , 10:54 AM

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Lizard king,

The things you're doing to make sure the money gets to the charity are great. However, everything that you bolded in your last post makes you sound like a dick whose only motive is to ruin nicks name. Stop with the dbag rumors about him and keep the thread on topic.

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08-13-2010 , 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Pasterbator

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08-13-2010 , 10:59 AM

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TheLizardKing

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Originally Posted by Pasterbator

I said it concerns me to hear stuff like this and why I think his intentions may not be so innocent and why I decided to investigate this stuff in the first place. I am asking Nick to have Patrik stand up for him and clear things up. Nick and some of his pupils have said a lot of things about me on 2+2, Mad Poker, Pokerstatic comments and forums, etc. attacking my character so I think I have a right to demand an explanation and a character witness from Nick especially after he has gotten caught contradicting himself on such a serious matter concerning a lot of money and a children's hospital.

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08-13-2010 , 11:01 AM

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Zima421

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you should use caps lock with bolding. it will prolly make your point that much more strong.

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08-13-2010 , 11:05 AM

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Maybe that Rainey $20k he lost to Negreanu golfing caused this? http://www.rawvegas.tv/watch/daniel-...3be326a0538d3b

Doesn't show the year but I think it's from this year because DN was tweeting about improving his golf game a lot. If it is, doesn't really seem that Antonius has a problem with Rainey unless he's willing to overlook that because he's a good golfer?

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08-13-2010 , 11:08 AM

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Alright, I will talk to my "source" and I will have the mods edit this out of the post.

Last edited by TheLizardKing; 08-13-2010 at 11:21 AM. Reason: Done, I have put in the request to have it removed on here and pokerstatic. You guys are right.

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08-13-2010 , 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by TheLizardKing

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You're right. "During WSOP 07" They tried to hide it by making it bold

Edit. Reading it again. It's not 2007. The full text is:

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During WSOP 07 we saw Erick Lindgren take a grueling bet worth upwards of $300,000. This year we follow Daniel Negreanu and Patrik Antonius to TCP Summerlin where each man has a team mate to either help or hinder their bets and side bets.

So it's 2008 at the earliest?

I hate when sites but month/date but not year.

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08-13-2010 , 03:20 PM

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Dick Starbuck

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Originally Posted by MicroSNGDonkey

is that doogie houser in ur ava?

Why yes, yes it is.

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08-13-2010 , 07:46 PM

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poor turtle, guy was a douche but he did beat the game for a while. looks like hes back grinding, lost 107.90 + expenses in tournys and like 500 in a 31 hand plo session. Turtle i hope you turn i around.

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08-13-2010 , 11:03 PM

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yeah poor Nick. Someone should run a 1/4 million stake thread or something so we can get enough to buy him back his dignity.

Then maybe do something for the kids in that hospital.

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08-13-2010 , 11:07 PM

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^^ deffo in that order though - got to get the priorities right

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08-14-2010 , 04:59 AM

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Final statement from Nick on this matter:

http://rainmanpoker.net/blog/?p=131

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Donation
August 14th, 2010

I have to apologize for any misunderstanding with the donation to the Oakland’s Children Hospital. I was under the impression since it was effectively my money being donated, and I would be raising funds other ways, and making my own donations that I didn’t have to keep official records and make a paper trail.

I now have a detailed spreadsheet with all the transactions below from the 2+2 thread. An official donation will be made for $6075.89 (the amount of the stakes returned to me), so there can be no doubt in anyone’s mind that the charity got their money. I will be making the donation early next week and will forward confirmation to a few people at 2+2.

https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?...thkey=CPmQsOAL

I have learned many valuable lessons from this. Not only has it cost me the $2500 I spent staking people but the damage to my reputation through the result of one vindictive person’s actions is long lasting.

I want everyone to know that my intentions were nothing less than honorable during this staking venture. Over a few month period many people were given the opportunity to play in a large Sunday MTT that they might not ordinarly get to experience without my stake. Thanks to a great final table run we were able to raise over $6000.

I would like to thank everyone who played and the many who contributed above and beyond. A special thanks goes to silviodante1 who donated a few entries each week. I have posted $500 with a friend to be donated to the charity or organization of your choice.

People that know me can testify that I have given, and will continue to give a lot to charity. Smart poker players know that a -ev staking deal like 50/50 with no makeup is not the way to make a profit in hopes of pocketing it yourself.

This will be my last mention of this matter and would appreciate for you to move forward as well.

Date Buy In’s Cashes

3/28/2010 ($506.00) $206.76
4/4/2010 ($473.00) $5,372.66
4/11/2010 ($517.00) $269.13
4/18/2010 ($528.00) $132.68
4/25/2010 ($99.00) $47.56
5/30/2010 ($374.00) $47.10

Totals ($2,497.00) $6,075.89

Posted in Nick's Blog

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08-14-2010 , 08:33 AM

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Final statement from Nick on this matter:

http://rainmanpoker.net/blog/?p=131

Wow, that's super misleading and I hope people don't fall for it. I don't think he planned to scam people/the charity but he's totally downplaying his obvious initial intentions, imo.

Also, lol at implying thelizardking was out of line. Sure, he probably enjoyed it more then he should have, but dude was responsible for 5k of the donation, obviously tlk was going to be more concerned then everyone else, and has every right to follow through.

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08-14-2010 , 09:25 AM

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hukel 9

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So I read the very original post on page 1.. figured no need to read the other 17,000. Probably not much drama in it or anything of interest. So with that being said.

SN = hukel 9

If you are no longer staking.. how about a steak? Medium well.

- Tongue firmly planted in cheek -

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08-14-2010 , 07:11 PM

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Followed this thread for a while so I suppose I'll provide some cliffs...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrzMhU_4m-g

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08-14-2010 , 07:24 PM

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I have learned many valuable lessons from this. Not only has it cost me the $2500 I spent staking people but the damage to my reputation through the result of one vindictive person’s actions is long lasting.

L O L

it didnt "cost" him anything. he volunteered the money as a way of investing in his brand. i hope everyone realizes this.

and the second sentence about a "vindictive" person.

LL OO LL

die nick, die.

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08-14-2010 , 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by TurnUpTheSun

Even if it was just a way of promoting himself, It was a nice thing to do. And the lizard king went over the top IMO. Nick did seem a bit shady but if you think his goal at the beginning of this was to just take the money for himself, thats just ridiculous. If it wasn't for the 1 big score, he would have lost a good amount.

Everything he says in the interviews(mad poker) about you all being sheep and jumping on a bandwagon of lies is 100% true.

I wasn't one of his students or anything like that, I played against him quite often in 180s and would read his blog on occasion, thats about it.

And seriously the die nick,die is just over the top.

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08-14-2010 , 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigboy592

1) no one said it wasnt a nice thing to do, good try trying to argue something no one has ever said
2) lizard king is the only reason the charity is getting the money. over the top? really?
3) i've never watched mad poker, never will, but if you enjoy being called a "sheep", sweet.
4) whats up with you and saying things are over the top? weird.

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08-14-2010 , 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TurnUpTheSun

1) your last post seemed to write it off only as a way of promoting himself.
2) Yes, he could have been persistent without being ridiculous
3) Its an entertaining show, its not just him ranting about idiots
4) Saying over the top twice in one post is over the top?