Thx lizardking for all your work, I sent nick some money to add a couple of more stakes as I thought this sounded like a very worthy cause and a fun sweat for charitable purposes, without your work it seems that the money would never have made it so ty

if you think its some weird coincidence nick is banned from full tilt and has a flagged account on stars to the point they wouldnt give him a patch deal, we should chat cause ive got a few things id like to sell you.

what do u mean?

Lizardking, maybe you should start smokin pot. You would enjoy your endless amount of free time much more. Do something with yourself or start smoking weed. Either way, kindly shut up.

As for Rainey, yeah its a bummer that after he claimed he sent it and hadn't yet, but would you guys give him a break? Do you guys honestly think he shipped 45 randoms 11 bucks w/ no makeup in hopes to makes a profit? Seriously? He clearly was trying to raise funds for the group (whether he wanted positive pub, brag rights etc., I dont know), but the way this Ray guy handled this crap is insane.

Of the 110 pages of this thread, its nearly all LizardKing all ranting about some BS. Maybe Rainey didn't handle this well, but I doubt his intentions were to pocket this money (esp. with the charity being linked to his uncle). All this mayhem was clearly started by an unstable psycho,(Lizardking) so I'm not reading too much into this.

Good idea Nick. Good cause. Way to honor it on LizardKing's strict timeline.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehCnBxZYjxM

Yes. Glad someone had the wisdom to say something like this. Clearly the bad person in this is the one that was persistent about finding out what happened to the donations in the face of being personally attacked by Rainy and his students and not the guy that set this whole thing up and lied about donating money.

Maybe you should smoke less pot?

This reminds me of that ridiculous promotion he ran in which he offered a chunk of money to be split amongst all those that finished ahead of him in some tournament.

This guy was just intolerable from the start when he came back to 2+2 as MI_turtle. The way he handled that prop bet as OmahaDoc was criminal.


And yeah, this certainly would have happened if he had become a site pro. It's probably why he lost it when Stars didn't offer him anything. He promoted himself for close to 9 months in hopes that he'd have the opportunity to capitalize and there's no better place than the main event to do so. There he was... Day 6 of the M.E.... and patchless....

Just how many sheep does this POS Rainey have living in his house???

If everyone were as "chill" as you are, he would have gotten away with this scam and many more.

And by "chill" I mean clueless and slow witted.

How is LK the bad guy in ur scenerio?

Not sure if anyones realized it yet but....all these ppl w/a few posts and totally random names are all the same person.

Nick Rainey. They're all him. Lol. Not his sheep. And lol @ all of you for not figuring the guy for this. He's literally insane. Like wtf woaaah

adderall cause multiple personalities?

Not only is your post dumb, youre doing it wrong as well. This thread is 17 pages.

is that doogie houser in ur ava?

lol hi nick

PokerStars Game #48087759815: Tournament #325010145, $100+$9 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (60/120) - 2010/08/13 2:25:28 CT [2010/08/13 3:25:28 ET]
Table '325010145 17' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: ykut888 (5835 in chips)
Seat 2: bs_jayhawk (4004 in chips)
Seat 3: Lord_Strife (3450 in chips)
Seat 4: a Bull 67 (1450 in chips)
Seat 5: grannyb88 (5070 in chips)
Seat 6: lenoxs (2978 in chips)
Seat 8: mizarkshzark (1650 in chips)
Seat 9: MI_turtle (1970 in chips)
ykut888: posts the ante 15
bs_jayhawk: posts the ante 15
Lord_Strife: posts the ante 15
a Bull 67: posts the ante 15
grannyb88: posts the ante 15
lenoxs: posts the ante 15
mizarkshzark: posts the ante 15
MI_turtle: posts the ante 15
a Bull 67: posts small blind 60
grannyb88: posts big blind 120
*** HOLE CARDS ***
lenoxs: raises 240 to 360
mizarkshzark: folds
MI_turtle: folds
ykut888: folds
bs_jayhawk: folds
Lord_Strife: folds
a Bull 67: folds
grannyb88: folds
Uncalled bet (240) returned to lenoxs
lenoxs collected 420 from pot
lenoxs: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 420 | Rake 0
Seat 1: ykut888 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: bs_jayhawk folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Lord_Strife (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: a Bull 67 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: grannyb88 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: lenoxs collected (420)
Seat 8: mizarkshzark folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: MI_turtle folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Yo Turtle, you ought to have 100 posts per page noob

Is it confirmed that he will be donating the net profit and not the total he received, LK? Because that would be so dirty, first he acts like he has payed everything already in MP10, turns out this isn't true, and now he's trying to make sure he didn't lose anything on this? While it was 100% obvious from the start he wanted to donate x entries(+-40) to the charity each week and hope he'd create an extra profit for the charity like this? Didn't they spend like 60% of the time of MP10 talking about how balla and rich he is and how he's constantly borrowing people a few k's and has no idea who owns him what etc?
Why would he try to do this then?

I don't know if you have it right on the head but I was going to say something similar because I started noticing a trend, too. Newer accounts, etc. It is definitely not beyond Nick's realm of possibilities and probabilities. I am sure some are students, fan boys, general problem causers, and his subscribers, too because I personally know some of them and they have very few posts also. However, I definitely think you are onto something. Ahh, the wonders of the Internet (and the big mouth, anonymous tough guys it creates)...

Well this isn't another thing you need to speculate about LizardKing, mods can and do run ip checks in situations where a bunch of new accounts appear in a thread, just like they found out that a bunch of the new accounts trashing nick after the main event were all the same person.

Maybe it's best if you just stick to facts instead of ish-stirring.

I'm sure you dont care but thought I would let you know anyways.
From an outsiders perspective you come off pretty poorly as a journalist making posts defending Nick here and in nvg and I realise that his interview with you was very popular and he prolly was a really nice guy to you (he was to me on the few occasions we talked) but I think you should consider cutting your losses and move on. You don't owe him anything and you certainly dont have to stand up for him. Just my 2 cents.

Not confirmed yet that he will for sure. That's right, he said he raised around $7,000 on both Mad Poker 9 and 10. Now, he definitely is making the argument to send in the net profits (so $3,000-5,000 less than that $7,000 figure). I sent him a Skype message and an email warning him that this would not be wise. If he doesn't want to, that it is his prerogative as a "different" type of person than I am used to dealing with. However, legally, reputation wise, etc., it is a different story. If he wants to settle this somewhere other than 2+2, etc., it is up to him. I know the hospital is taking this very serious and Dr. Feusner and his office are very concerned.

Some of these people think I am out to get him but I have not filed a criminal complaint yet and I have received many 2+2 PM's asking me to do this. This is not my opinion I have verified 100% that I could with multiple law enforcement agencies and I explained to them the whole situation and read them Nick's quotes from this thread. And, I tried to settle this privately with Nick via email and Skype and he just ignored me for awhile and then told me to go away. He only really responded when I told him I was going to start posting on 2+2 and go to the hospital and try to verify these donations myself. If I really wanted to get Nick, I would have never posted on 2+2 and just filed a criminal complaint so someone with some real power (ie, subpoena/judicial power, etc.) could really get to the truth and maybe some form of justice IF he did something illegal and that is not certain at all. I knew it would be an easier way to go because I don't like posting on here especially on topics like these and maybe it is still the proper route.

"Why would he try to do this then?"
From what I have seen, Nick is not rich or anything close to that. I think it is part of the "Nick" show for his ego and to build his school, staking business, and his quest to become an online pro. I have been told he has many backers that he owes a lot of money. He has had 2 cars repossessed in the past year or so. His registration on his current vehicle expired 2 years ago or something like that (until he recently got pulled over by the police and subsequently took care of it). Also, there are many other private things that people asked me not to say (by people who never have said anything on 2+2 or anywhere about Nick). There is nothing wrong with being broke (ie, me) but with my experiences with Nick, some of the things listed here, and especially the private things lead me to think that Nick would probably think that sick kids were a bunch of worthless losers and would never give his own money to such a cause and he probably couldn't afford to give away $500/week anyways. From the sounds of it, he does have some money now after his post-WSOP cash and cash game success so he should be able to make the donation. While I was in Las Vegas, as far as I could tell, Bodeye and Aaron paid for everything (e.g., meals, furniture, show tickets, airline tickets, cell phones, probably the rent on the "mansion", etc., etc.). Also, from what I could tell, Aaron and Bodeye staked all of the players in Nicks' staking business. And maybe Aaron and Bodeye provided the funds for this "Qtr Million Freeroll steak for a good cause", too. If Aaron and Bodeye did provide the money for this, then it didn't cost Nick anything to do this in the first place and it would totally undermine his whole assertion that why would he do something so unprofitable as a scheme. If it was a scheme (and that has not been proven at all), he may have thought no one would ever check up on him and if they tried to, he would just say he gave it anonymously and would not go this far with trying to verify the donations. I really don't know all of the details or if this was a scheme but what I do know and saw concerns me greatly about Nick and his intentions.

on the featured table, nonetheless.



just catching up on all this turtle-drama now and wanted to avoid posting in any of the threads but i was watching his video on Mad Poker EP10 and it just seems like he is double talking so much. whether or not his intention was to scam the 2p2 community (And i dnt neccessarily think it was) he is obviously very uncomfortable when discussing whether or not he sent the donation to the hospital. imo----he was coming off very dishonest in that interview esp when asked about the paper work and he said "i sent triple that. well. double. triple. definately double that. at least. but probably triple" (not quoted verbatim) it was uncomfortable listening to parts of the interview because i could hear/see how uncomfortable nick was discussing the details of this situation.

clearly being dishonest here, in my opinion

seems like he was backed in to a corner and is now trying to wiggle himself out however he can

very much enjoying your 2 cents.

Didn't MI_T and PA just part ways because PA was moving to Monte Carlo? That's what I thought...

Not heard of this rumour yet but should indeed get cleared up.