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Old 10-30-2017, 07:57 AM   #76
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Re: A (possibly) career-ending prop bet ITT

can you post your actually scheduled

or tell us what field site you consider easyest?

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Old 10-30-2017, 12:09 PM   #77
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Re: A (possibly) career-ending prop bet ITT

I thought some of these were being streamed. Any schedule?
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Old 11-01-2017, 09:05 AM   #78
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I think Chuck can really get stuck in and get this challenge done. He has the work ethic and sheer discipline to pull it off. There is no chance, no chance he would do something off the wall and visit Macedonia. I mean Macedonia? No chance bill.

edit: Chuck is currently in Macedonia after a 3 day bender in Athens - top kek
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Old 11-01-2017, 04:02 PM   #79
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Running sims for hours a day doesn't seem like a good way to spend your time to me. Not sure how helpful it is for the immediate task of crushing the micros (good longterm, but there is no longterm if you lose this). Would be way better to use that time to go to the gym, play more hours, or just chill out and sleep more imo.



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My main motivation for taking up on the bet was to feel like I'm crushing the games again and figure out if that's even possible for me anymore. I want to get back that feeling I had before that I'm close to the best player in every MTT I reg (<--obv not refering to HSMTT stuff here) and that I'm ahead of the curve in every way. Feels like a faraway memory now but these days used to exist... so while I agree that the best way to win the bet itself would be to do as you suggested, doing so wouldn't really benefit me at all with regards to my life choice dilemmas. I'd rather realize that I don't have it in me anymore and be forced to quit than keep getting by without really getting anywhere and one day realizing I'm 40 with a 20-year gap in my resume.

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O and what's your thought on Spins btw? Not interested in grinding those?

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My thoughts are that **** PokerStars, they can EAD and I'm not even opening their client. If they were a product of another site I still wouldn't play them though, I don't want to win or lose the challange because of variance

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About poker being a pipedream, doesn't that depend heavily on one's monetary goals? Sure, being settled for live through poker is a pipedream nowadays, but making 2-3k a month f.e. still seems quite achievable? Or am I sorely mistaken?

Regards your challenge, it seems a super tough one but I do wish you the best of stamina (not luck as that's overrated).
(answering below)

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It has to be put in the context of what's happening currently. AI and software are driving the biggest change in society since the industrial revolution. If you're motivated enough to make 3k a month from poker than you could make a lot more money in tech and with a faster learning curve.

Programming is still nowhere near as intuitive an experience as poker is currently but it's getting close.

What monk said, plus that poker destroys your soul, takes away years from your life, stresses the bejesus out of you, [insert 50000 other minus sides here], and creates a CV gap that might be tough to explain depending on what you want to do post-poker. It's entirely possible to waste your best years playing poker just to make ~what you'd make doing something else. Yeaah I get you have the "freedom" and stuff, but that can also feel like a shackle. Who here hasn't felt guilty taking a day off when you could be playing making a buck? Who here hasn't had a sleepless night over losing a ****ton of money "working"? Etcetc. If I was from a poor country where making 3k/month was 3x what others make then sure I think it would be worth it. But in my home country $3k/month is average wage and earning it playing poker is the nut worst option.

Personally (I'm typing this on cell phone so I'll be quick, sorry) I also feel like I want to contribute to the world in some way, and I don't want my life's work to be mastering a card game. Obv this could be different if I was making so much €€€ that I could then use that money on different projects etc. But being realistic, I think there's a bunch of career options for me where I would kick ass and that I'd find ultimately more fulfilling than poker. I know that sounded kinda naive and I don't mean to try to portray myself as some sort of altruist, I just feel like I wish my work had a positive effect on other people (even if it's just a work community or something) as opposed to just making money for myself winning it from other people (including some who couldn't even afford to lose it). I don't have a big moral dilemma with the last part or anything, especially as I was a gambling addict since I was 10 and spewed away all my money degening throughout my teens, but as I've gotten older doing something more meaningful has become more and more important to me long-term.

Guess I'll add that I'm pretty competitive so again if I was really crushing I'd be happy to put any other career paths on hold, because the feeling of crushing your competition is like a drug to me and if I could find my 2011 mojo I don't think I'd be thinking about the above things all that much. But the 3k/month grind definitely just isn't worth it for me personally longterm.

As for your actual question, I would guesstimate that a somewhat steady 2-3k/kk playing MTTs would be attainable to most people still but that's sort of the ceiling unless you're really good ("really good" can mean many things, including multitabling or whoring yourself out on twitch or whatever). When I started ppl were making 15k/month on rakeback alone 25tabling playing 10vpip. The ceiling of the monthly wage that anyone with half a brain can earn goes down every year/month and I feel like it's now reached the treshold where it's not worth it for me unless I can be ahead of the pack quite comfortably.



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With all due respect, if you think studying of any kind is a good idea with regards to this bet, then the game has passed you by already. PIO etc should only be necessary for very strong (truly intelligent proven winners) players who play high stakes. If you can't crush these stakes for 20BB/100 or so with no study then its definitely time to retire. If you really want to win the bet then stop playing all fancy vs people who barely know the rules, just use common sense and a solid exploitative strategy.
Would like to see some 20BB/100 graphs even from 5ABI over a sustainable sample. I'm not saying it can't be done, and it obv just really depends on whether you late reg a bunch, play rebuys, ante up, etcetc, but in general I think 15BB/100 has got to be the cap even at this low or you're making huge regging mistakes. I'm 12.5BB/100 so far after the first month and while I could certainly play better I don't think it's attainable to make all that much more given that I late reg a bunch with 30BB etc. The rest I answered above. Obviously exploitation is the key but I want to learn / maintain my skills too. I always was a much better coach than I was a player and I've always really enjoyed thinking about poker strategy, half the fun is in strat if you ask me.

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can you post your actually scheduled

or tell us what field site you consider easyest?

thanks
No schedule, I just reg whatever is up when I play. I avoid mass fields for the most part, I'd say my average field size is 200ish players. Every site feels pretty easy, if I had to choose one I'd choose Winamax, the games are easiest on Unibet I would say tho.

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I thought some of these were being streamed. Any schedule?
I'm streaming once a week in Finnish (made a deal with a Finnish site). They gave me permission to do one English stream which I'll do probably soonish. Will post ITT when I know when it happens. I'm not into the whole twitch thing all that much and have 0 interest in building up some sort of brand so I'm doing it entirely for some side income. Which is probably a pretty good idea given I might go broke on the prop

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I think Chuck can really get stuck in and get this challenge done. He has the work ethic and sheer discipline to pull it off. There is no chance, no chance he would do something off the wall and visit Macedonia. I mean Macedonia? No chance bill.

edit: Chuck is currently in Macedonia after a 3 day bender in Athens - top kek
Who are you on my Facebook? Lol

Like I said in the OP I had a trip planned that I was aware of before taking up on the bet. It was negotiated in the terms that I will be gone for 7 specific days (aka this trip) and won't be allowed to play during that time. It was a trip with an old non-poker friend and I didn't want to let him down so if this was not possible I would simply not have taken the bet. I'm flying home tomorrow, which is day 7 of the trip, and I'll be back on the grind on Friday as usual.

I have a couple of live poker trips in December tho that are actually semi irresponsible but I'll try to make them supershort. Shouldn't be a problem since I bust every live MTT by level 2 anyway. But I wanted to play a couple more birds before quitting so I couldn't hesitate.
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Old 11-01-2017, 07:42 PM   #80
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Re: A (possibly) career-ending prop bet ITT

Speaking of Macedonia, this isn't a bad choice of location to charge some batteries. Did a 24km hike today with 1km+ changes in elevation and holy **** was it gorgeous.



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Old 11-01-2017, 08:02 PM   #81
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where were you in Macedonia?? How did u like it there?

and link from podcast u make
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Old 11-02-2017, 07:06 AM   #82
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good ole miikka. no prop bet w/o trip report !
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Old 11-08-2017, 11:28 PM   #83
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insane challenge, as a fellow degen i gotta give u full support and much love for this. glgl
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Old 11-09-2017, 02:24 AM   #84
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Re: A (possibly) career-ending prop bet ITT

20bb/100 def sustainable in lowstakes games, even with late regging/turbos/hypers/etc.

Especially if you filter for 15bb+ deep.

If you're not running 20bb+/100 for 15bb+ deep you are likely playing too balanced, structured, and protected.

(Obv this number as a cap is much lower on PS and in 50+ abi for the most part.)
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Old 11-09-2017, 02:31 PM   #85
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Didnt realise he plays the 1-5eu's, guess it's possible then.

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Old 11-09-2017, 02:54 PM   #86
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Old 11-09-2017, 02:56 PM   #87
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Re: A (possibly) career-ending prop bet ITT

Time for a name change too.. is keyser soze taken?
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Old 11-13-2017, 07:53 PM   #88
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Re: A (possibly) career-ending prop bet ITT

Holler

I'm throwing my one and only English language stream this week, details at the end of this post!


Tough times in Chuck Bass' life recently; my computer blew up mid-challenge and I lost a couple of days to it, had to do all the super annoying setting up HEM etc stuff, and I also had a good old 2-week breakeven period. I'm now at 2450ish euros after 44 days. Gonna have to make **** happen pretty soon or I'm drawing dead, but as long as my br is 4000€+ after this month (with two months to go) I should have a reasonable shot. I'm down 1000€ at 10s and up infinite at 5s and lower so the 1000buyin goal is almost there at least. Just gotta win actual money now.

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where were you in Macedonia?? How did u like it there?

and link from podcast u make
Podcast link here, it will take you to the Parttimepoker website. It's the one titled "Risking it all"

I was just in Skopje and around Matka canyon. Really amazing scenery, Skopje was cute as a button as well.

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good ole miikka. no prop bet w/o trip report !
Haha

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insane challenge, as a fellow degen i gotta give u full support and much love for this. glgl
Tyytyty, degens gonna degen

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20bb/100 def sustainable in lowstakes games, even with late regging/turbos/hypers/etc.

Especially if you filter for 15bb+ deep.

If you're not running 20bb+/100 for 15bb+ deep you are likely playing too balanced, structured, and protected.

(Obv this number as a cap is much lower on PS and in 50+ abi for the most part.)
Guess I just suck then, I'm 14,50BB/100 over the challenge and I feel like even some of that is because of some 200BB early donations that resulted from suboptimal regging habits. I feel like my skill level cap is unfortunately at like 13BB/100 longterm

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NOOOOOOO.



Anyway, so I was asked this a lot and decided to do it: My first, and last English language stream EVER* is happening this Friday. The channel will be this:

www.twitch.tv/pokerisivut


Note that there will be someone else streaming in Finnish up until Friday, as this is not my channel, but a Finnish poker community channel. The stream on Friday will be entirely in English and hosted by yours truly. The stream begins at 5PM GMT+0 (UK time), and will go on for at least 5 hours, probably more. I'll be very light on playing and the focus will be mostly on:

-Degen stories
-Other degen habits
-Performing a human progressive knockout**
-AMA
-More degen stories
-Tinder stories
-Stories from the glory days of online poker
-etc
-Talking some strat

Please come join! I honestly think this is going to be pretty fun, I will hold absolutely nothing back, I'll answer (almost) anything, some of the stories will be pretty wild, and once I get drunk I might give out 20-minute monologue rants about various subjects including certain people


*If I win the challenge I will throw another celebratory stream in English but that will be it, I have 0 interest in becoming a proper streamwhore

**In case you were wondering what a human PKO means, I have a bottle of wine, whisky, tequila, and 80% absinthe, so I will get progressively more drunk and I assume also knocked out mid-stream at some point


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Old 11-13-2017, 08:14 PM   #89
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If you're sitting on 2500, you seem to be drawing very very live here
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Old 11-16-2017, 12:41 PM   #90
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Alright I'm going to spam this once more just because there's a new plot twist, no worries mods this will be the second and last time

So Unibet kindly offered some sick value for the viewers of my one-off English stream tomorrow. We'll be giving away 500 euros worth of MTT tickets on the stream, instructions will be given on-air. This will likely end up being very very good value as I doubt there will be that many people competing for the tickets.

The stream starts at 5PM GMT+0 tomorrow (FRIDAY), and you need to get there by 6PM (would recommend a bit earlier) to have a chance at winning a ticket.

The stream itself will go on for a fair bit longer, I'll probably call it a night around 11PM GMT or so. Would expect my ramblings to hit peak levels towards the end.

Muchas gracias to Unibet for the added value! <3


www.twitch.tv/pokerisivut <-- that's the stream address, 5PM GMT onwards tomorrow. There's a stream ongoing right now in Finnish, the guy streaming is not me fwiw
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Old 11-16-2017, 12:48 PM   #91
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I knew I picked the right day to sub to this thread, gl gl.
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A lot of Unibet regs depend on twitch freebies (I'd be busto without them!), so don't be surprised if the chatbox is actually quite busy. I'll try and drop in for a bit of the stream and I'll tweet out a link later on. #FreeMoney
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