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Old 01-12-2016, 01:38 PM   #151
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Especially being a rebuy makes a 6max format more appealing imo. More action more rebuts etc. just not a fan of how ppl play fullring rebuys these days
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Old 01-12-2016, 02:05 PM   #152
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11c turbo sounds sexy!

replace either 44t or 33t, both witherfests.
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Old 01-12-2016, 06:07 PM   #153
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Bounty Builders are perfect candidate to become 6-max.
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Old 01-12-2016, 06:20 PM   #154
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Ok Supersonic as well. But no small or midstakes mtts are 6-max.
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Old 01-12-2016, 07:34 PM   #155
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Did you stop the tournament leaderboards for 2016?
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Old 01-12-2016, 10:21 PM   #156
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The issue with these high stakes tournaments is that this group of players is much more fickle than the rest of our player base. They travel to live events and generally do not have 9-5s. This results in the field sizes fluctuating significantly from week to week.

I do not think that moving the time slot would significantly help the size of the field, but the above functionality could mitigate the times you're sitting there one-tabling the Sunday 500. Thoughts?
Make the first X levels 15 minutes. Even when I used to play late sessions I almost never played the sunday 500 because it'd last until 9am or something silly. I'm not sure how this dynamic level thing is that much different from variable levels, but until it's out a 15min structure until 500/1k or something should help push the tournament along more quickly without hurting the structure much.

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Did you stop the tournament leaderboards for 2016?

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I feel there is a bit of a gap in the schedule for micro stakes Turbo games if you intend on playing from say 10pm-4am UK time. And since this coincides with pub closing times there could be an opportunity to increase volume. And i believe the poker stars Rep said themselves they wanted to work on improving the games for micro stakes players. This would also work well because after 12am UK time there is a MASSIVE drop in volume of all MTSNGS

What about adding a $5.40 Turbo KO Which is a successful line of tournaments but the last one i believe is at 8pm

What about adding a Turbo Bounty Builder from around 9pm-12am, since you have no Turbo formats of these as far as i am aware and i'm sure Regs and Rec alike will be attracted to this

What about adding a $2 2x Turbo rebuy for around this time. As someone already posted you offer about 4 of these games per normal day but they are all within 120 minutes of each other!

What about adding a $5 hyper games between 12am and 3.3am since there are literally none at these stakes at this time
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Will there still be *coop leaderboards?
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Yea there will. Winner now gets scoop main high ticket I think
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I like how you forgot to put MicroMillions in that list I may sound like I'm a big fan of MicroMillions, but the reason I like MicroMillions is I get to play all variants with bigger guarantees which we normally don't get.

Anyway what I meant was I want to see more mtt promotions like giveaways, half-price Sunday majors, occasional mini-majors with giveaways, sunday storm - 1M GTD, etc.


What changes are you looking for? Imo the ones that are doing already well or okish, shouldn’t be changed. I can’t tell about Razz, Stud, and other mixed games as I don’t play them. I was talking about Badugi, Triple Draw, NL 2-7 Single Draw schedule. Last year you removed many tournaments - I understand they needed cleaning but you could have slightly modified few of them. There are only 2 triple draws tourneys yet there are more triple draw cash players than single draw which has got 4 daily tournaments.

Now regarding the Daily/Weekly schedule – As of now there are 11 Non-NLHE Daily tourneys. All had started with $1K GTDs. HORSE, 8-game, PL 5-Card draw, Stud H/L, FL Omaha H/L haven’t got their GTDs reduced yet so I can assume they are doing good. Stud, Badugi, NL 2-7 Single Draw haven’t been doing very well. NL 2-7SD most of the time got overlay because of bubble effect but still they are only getting 30-35 entrants which is below avg. Imo you should move Badugi, NL 2-7 SD couple of hours back. Razz, Triple Draw, FL holdem has got $750 gtd which is also below avg. I believe Daily-Weekly needs a promotional support. Last year you had a Draw week but it wasn’t very well executed. You could have taken advantage of that promotion and could have doubled their guarantees for that week.

I think you should come up with a promotion maybe for 1 month like:

1) i) Win 3 Dailies in a day and get a chance to win

40% $250 + 3 $27 Daily Tickets
20% $500 + 5 $27 Daily tickets
5% $2500 + 10 Daily tickets
2.5% $5000 + 10 tickets
etc etc Similarily for Weeklies

ii) Cash 3 dailies in a day and get 3 $27 tickets
iii) Play 3 dailies in a day and get 1 $27 ticket

Obviously this is just an example, I don’t know what should the numbers be or how much would you spend on this promotion. BUT IT DEFINITELY NEEDS A PROMOTIONAL SUPPORT.

2) Daily/Weekly separate Leaderboard (Permanent thing)

3) New Badges – All team pros have got this red spade thing, and players who have hit 1M vpp or 5M vpp– I think you should introduce more badges. Like the winner of daily/weekly leaderboard should get a badge which he can use it for a week or a month. Badges are super attractive to recs

4) All-rounder/Mixed game player of the week – Introduce something like player of the week. You decide what the criteria should be.




I have already suggested that to PokerStars Matthew in promotions thread, I thought I should also let you know about this. I don’t want to see it run only during promotions, I want it to be a regular thing so by the end of the month I can spend my 1k stars coin on a zoom tourney rather than buy $11 tournament ticket and play big 11 or Sunday storm which I find super boring when I have to single table. There aren’t many zoom tourneys and there is not a single special zoom tourney.

Anyway, what was the $5K winner take-all promotion?
  • Stud and Draw week was considered a success. If you have suggestions to make it better, feel free to leave them here. There is a higher chance of repeating that promotion with some improvements than coming up with a new mixed game promotion. That is purely speculation on my end, though.
  • I do not think the Daily $27s and Weekly $82/$215s will continue to be red. Yes, it can be argued that they need to be updated, but I do not believe they'll grow very much even if changed. A red tournament lacking participation points to the format. Time slot shuffling would help, though.
  • MicroMillions is tentatively planned to run in July.
  • Many of your ideas aren't free!
  • You're welcome to continue the mixed game discussion, but I'm afraid I won't have much to add until I really dig into the schedule changes.
  • PokerStars used to run a 20 player capped $5,000 buy-in winner-take-all MTT on Sundays. It was two 10-handed tables. Memories!

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Yeah yesterday the time of mtts starting did have some effect on lag, it was relieved on the 15 30 intervals for me but isn't the best method and we hope to see this resolved asap. Then bring in the minis
We expect to see significant improvements this coming weekend. The current plan is to monitor the threads to see if there are any reports on Friday/Saturday. If no reports come in, I will not be preemptively changing start times. If there are reports of consistent lag, I'll change as many start times as time permits. If reports come in on Sunday, I'll adjust any remaining tournaments within reason.

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make the withered 55t reentry a 55t super ko
This tournament definitely seems like a candidate to change. I'll add it to the list, but at this point it seems unlikely I'll get to it this week.

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Hello Luke

I am o8 high stakes player and i think i have some good ideas how to inprove things.

1. First of all the 530 plo hi/lo on Wednesday very good tournement that hits it guarenteed all the time, imo it does not attract really recreational players but the players who i think are -ev in this toernement are most of the time rich holdem mtt crushers (who play them for fun or ego). So for stars this is also a very good tournament. An idea to try is to make it 1 rebuy when busted ( i know you are business stars, try 1 re-enry then i am happy to give a other 30$ in rake and i guess a lot of rich holdem crushers does not care too what is good for toernement imo also more price money)

2. An other idea too add also a weekly no limit hi/lo highstakes. i think the best format for no limit o8 would be a 109+R (unlimited) (add-on same amount of chips as rebuy pls otherwise to much late regs). It will be way more fun for no limit o8 to make it 109+R then to make it a 320. it will be nice for a friday. there is a lot of cap game no limit o8 cash action those people would join this too.

3.I did see suggestions for a daily 215 psk nl hi/lo hyper ofcourse i love the idea but luke i think starting with a 215 psk o8 hyper late on sunday would be very smart And save choice to begin with (the 82 psk nlhi/lo early in sunday is always booming, no idea why all those holdem people join :P ). i would bet lot of money that when a 215 psk hyper toernement is a little before or after the sunday super sonic it will be booming!!

i have more ideas but the above i think will very likely work!
Thanks for your feedback! I don't mind the idea of changing the Monday/Wednesday $530 omahas to re-entry. It would increase the prize pools and I doubt it would discourage players from joining. I'll consider it for the future.

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Thanks, I hope PS decides to keep the format. I play the $55 from time to time, it always reaches / exceeds it's GNTD any time I played / observed the game. The smaller GNTDS seem to always bust the GNTDS as well. It would be a shame to see the format no longer offered in the main schedule.

I feel as if the satellites would run more often if the format was switched to the previously mentioned format. I registered for one of the sats last week to notice it wasn't an Anti-up structure and was a hyper. I immediately unregistered. I think others done the same as the short time I observed the sats I seen players taking the same action as me.

I look forward to playing TCOOP Event 38.
I looked at the SNG satellite file and saw that the satellites to the $55 ante up are indeed the correct format. I think I am missing something!

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Regarding Ante Up, maybe a nice little promo would help a bit. I guess there are a ****load of recs who never played this game or don't even know it exists. But it is kinda fun and a new twist if you always play standard MTTs.
This is very, very unlikely to happen. Besides, I believe a promotion would have to follow an honest effort to show it can be successful in the main schedule.

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I don't know if this exactly is the right thread for it but...

How does PokerStars.FR think, really?

The Galactic Main event, with 3 starting days and a concluding Day 2 on Wednesday, is a slow-structured mtt with 20-minute levels.

After Day 1C on Tuesday there will be a total of ~600 runners for Day 2.

Won't this be a ridiculous grind for those 600 runners? There is no Day 3 so we are talking about 14 hours+ to finish.

Thoughts?
I've passed your feedback on to the .FR team.

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For PLO the 215 is too early on a Saturday and suffers from the problem of a low guarantee not being enticing enough to a lot of target players to start their grind earlier and reg it.

You need a 6 max rebuy scheduled at a good time, as this is by far the most popular format. No reason it couldn't do very well but it needs to be peak time and not to plug a gap somewhere. Fridays don't really have anything atm.

I would start with something like a 50r 25k gtd on a Friday night, with a Mini 5r 5k or similar in tandem.
Thanks for the idea, I'll keep it in mind.

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Agreed on the turbos front

The 55t 2x, the 44t and even the new 33t feel like they could do better as part of some promotion, same goes for the 22 10k. I play some of the bigger volume schedules of players and I usually skip the lot of them. I remember you changing the 109 2x to psko and it exploded, why not try and spice these up a little? I could get on board with leaving the 33t as it is as its been doing ok the rest is absolute trashy regfests tho.
I think mid-stakes are well represented in our promotions; however, I agree that a couple of these tournaments could be improved.

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Perhaps some of these tourneys could be better as 6-max? Or changing the 44t/10k to a 11c turbo (same structure as 109c turbo later)
Also something added to support the late hours around bb82 and h44 would be appreciated.
Thanks, Luke, for being active
You're very welcome!

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I would love to see some tourneys change to 6-max. Is it correct that the only sunday major is the 162 6-max?
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Bounty Builders are perfect candidate to become 6-max.
I'd happily change more NLHE tournaments to 6-max if I thought it would drive participation!

Every single time we've put a 6-max version of a tournament up against a 9-max equivalent, the 9-max has been more popular.

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supersonic
Good call on this one. It was changed to 6-max in March 2015.

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Especially being a rebuy makes a 6max format more appealing imo. More action more rebuts etc. just not a fan of how ppl play fullring rebuys these days
I agree. It is not difficult to see that the average buy-ins per player in rebuy tournaments has decreased over time. I think the new structure has corrected this to a degree.

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Make the first X levels 15 minutes. Even when I used to play late sessions I almost never played the sunday 500 because it'd last until 9am or something silly. I'm not sure how this dynamic level thing is that much different from variable levels, but until it's out a 15min structure until 500/1k or something should help push the tournament along more quickly without hurting the structure much.
Any other comments on this?

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I feel there is a bit of a gap in the schedule for micro stakes Turbo games if you intend on playing from say 10pm-4am UK time. And since this coincides with pub closing times there could be an opportunity to increase volume. And i believe the poker stars Rep said themselves they wanted to work on improving the games for micro stakes players. This would also work well because after 12am UK time there is a MASSIVE drop in volume of all MTSNGS

What about adding a $5.40 Turbo KO Which is a successful line of tournaments but the last one i believe is at 8pm

What about adding a Turbo Bounty Builder from around 9pm-12am, since you have no Turbo formats of these as far as i am aware and i'm sure Regs and Rec alike will be attracted to this

What about adding a $2 2x Turbo rebuy for around this time. As someone already posted you offer about 4 of these games per normal day but they are all within 120 minutes of each other!

What about adding a $5 hyper games between 12am and 3.3am since there are literally none at these stakes at this time
Thanks for your feedback. I just looked at the micro schedule and while there's turbo options, they're in the $1 range. I'll consider some updates once I dig into the main schedule changes.

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Will there still be *coop leaderboards?
Bryan is much better suited to answer, but yes, I believe so.
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Old 01-13-2016, 09:28 AM   #162
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Why wait until july for micromillions?? Is there another series that will serve the same purpose in the meantime?
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Had to refav a lot of MTTs, but can´t see any changes. Is it just me?
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The offpeak $33[1R1A] at 04:30 (PT)/13:30 (CET) with a $2k guarantee is a joke!

This really needs improvement esp cos this timeslot has so few ms or hs tourneys anyway and there's zero chance this gets attention from any rec player with such a tiny guarantee at this buyin. I'd suggest making this at least a 33+R $5k guarantee with 10 min lvls and 12 min lvls post-addon but I'm pretty open-minded here.
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Old 01-13-2016, 10:54 AM   #165
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I have no interest of ever playing online satalite to online tournament but I'm interested in live satalites. However in my filters to see love satalites it shows me tonnes of online satalites too and clutters my lobby. Could you separate the two please?
Should I post this to software thread?
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Why wait until july for micromillions?? Is there another series that will serve the same purpose in the meantime?
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[LIST]I looked at the SNG satellite file and saw that the satellites to the $55 ante up are indeed the correct format. I think I am missing something!
The satellites to the $55 Ante-Up buy In are currently nlh / hypers ( unless changed since my last post ) I am suggesting to change them to regular or turbo Ante-Up satellites. An Ante-Up Satellite to get into an Ante-Up Game. If that is not possible a change from hyper to turbo nlh.
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  • Stud and Draw week was considered a success. If you have suggestions to make it better, feel free to leave them here. There is a higher chance of repeating that promotion with some improvements than coming up with a new mixed game promotion. That is purely speculation on my end, though.
  • I do not think the Daily $27s and Weekly $82/$215s will continue to be red. Yes, it can be argued that they need to be updated, but I do not believe they'll grow very much even if changed. A red tournament lacking participation points to the format. Time slot shuffling would help, though.
  • MicroMillions is tentatively planned to run in July.
  • Many of your ideas aren't free!
  • You're welcome to continue the mixed game discussion, but I'm afraid I won't have much to add until I really dig into the schedule changes.
* Indeed, I loved the Stud and Draw week. I've some suggestions in case you guys come up with a mixed game/draw week promotion in the future:

1) When you ask us to complete challenge(s), please don't give us all-in shootout freeroll tickets but instead give us instant cash rewards.
2) Double the guarantees of all mixed game mtts during the promotion.
3) Difficult challenges like win 2 or dailies/weeklies in a day like I already mentioned before, would be so nice.
4) Ring game offerings(Please forward this to Ring games manager): NL 2-7 SD has min stakes of $0.25/$0.50 - not everybody can afford to play this. You could have added $0.05/$0.10 during the promotion and if they do well, continue offering that stake. Also if possible make them antes.

* Some of the dailies/weeklies are doing decent. Why turn all daily 27s/weeklys 82/215 non red just because of 3-4 variants are not doing well? It would harm them more since that would mean there will be no more sats, no 5k starting stack since they wont be special/red. See if time slot shuffling helps the struggling ones before you do anything else.

* Free ideas like
1) Mentioning 1st prize along with gtd prizepool in these low field daily 27s/weekly 82s. Experiment this in 8game/horse. You have nothing to lose.
2) Change their tourney names. Daily Stud, Daily Badugi, Daily NL 2-7 Single Draw sounds so obvious/boring. Have them named something interesting like All-rounder 8 game, Studious Stud, Breaking Badugi, Draw me Lo, Draw me Hi, Razzamatazz, Game of Limits - HORSE, Know your Limits - Holdem for example.
3) Introduce player badges like - Mixed game Specialist, NL Holdem Specialist, Omaha Specialist - ofcourse this would require development but you wont have to spend as promotion money.

* Mixed game schedule: All I want you is to add 3 tourneys(each from badugi, triple draw, single draw).

Other questions:
1) Will there be red zooms in the future?

$5.1 NLHE Hyper Schedule
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00:30 1K Gtd, 2 max
01:45 PSKO $4K Gtd, 6 max
02:45 $1.5K Gtd
03:45 $1.5K Gtd, 6 max
07:30 $2.5K Gtd
08:30 $3K Gtd
08:45 $3K Gtd
10:45 $4K Gtd, 6 max
11:30 $4K Gtd
13:30 $5K Gtd
14:30 $5K Gtd
16:30 $7K Gtd
17:30 $5K Gtd
22:30 $2.5K Gtd
22:45 $2K Gtd
23:15 $1.5K Gtd, 6 max
23:45 $1.5K Gtd
2) Any reason why they are so close to each other? Imo 08:30 should go to 09:30(and not 08:45 coz players looking to play 08:30 will play 08:45).
And 22:30 should move to 20:30 or 21:30 to balance the big gap. You could also make one of them PSKO.
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1) When you ask us to complete challenge(s), please don't give us all-in shootout freeroll tickets but instead give us instant cash rewards.
this would require the rewards to have a non-negligible tangible cash value, so it's unlikely to happen
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I don't know if this exactly is the right thread for it but...

How does PokerStars.FR think, really?

The Galactic Main event, with 3 starting days and a concluding Day 2 on Wednesday, is a slow-structured mtt with 20-minute levels.

After Day 1C on Tuesday there will be a total of ~600 runners for Day 2.

Won't this be a ridiculous grind for those 600 runners? There is no Day 3 so we are talking about 14 hours+ to finish.

Thoughts?
yeah the scoop.fr main day 2 lasted till 4am stars time and like 12pm euro time. Gotta show some heart in this one.
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Old 01-13-2016, 02:14 PM   #174
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I agree with anuj22, mixed games didnt have much support in the past, weve got the Dailys and the Draw Week.. But seriously.. I dont know how many times it was mentioned, that we need a display for the number of drawn cards on the table and not in the chat..

That is the main reason why most players dont add these mtts to their multitable sessions, because It takes too much time to scroll in chat and read there how many cards someone traded. Also you should display for games like Razz, Stud, Stud H/L which cards got discarded by other players. Atm when I one tabling these games I do screens to remember how many of my outs got already removed etc.. Which totally sucks.
U cant tell me that it would be a hard thing to implement these stuff. Ive had conversations to many players on skype who played mixed games in the past and nearly all of them didnt want to play them because of these 2 things.

Furthermore we need a dynamic blindstructure for Mixed games and ~4-5 additional blind levels. Another thing is, that Limit Hold em is completely killing Horse and 8 game in the late stage. Limit Hold em has the same average amount of Big Blinds like all the 10.20 $ Hyper Turbo Limit Hold em MTTs have thats why all the regs timing out their timebank during that game on FTs.
It always feels like:
Razz - turbo
Stud - turbo
Stud H/L - turbo
Limit Hold em - Hyper Turbo
Limit Omaha H/L - Hyper Turbo

In addition to that I am the same opinion like anuj22 we def. need something special for mixed games like a Leaderboard or another permanent promo.

Well till yet it felt like talking into a wall when complaining about mixed games.. This will be the last time I complain about these things, because its just obv. that u could easily increase the traffic of all these games with easy changes and you haven`t done anything yet. If you just look at for example 5 Card Draw MTTs you would see how much potential these games have.. each MTT has arround 100 runners as well as Single Draw has a lot of potential.
In Bulgaria, Russia, Ukraine, Bosnia, Argentinia for example 5 Card Draw, Tripple Draw and Single Draw enjoy a high status, because many fun players there play these games instead of NL Hold em with their friends.
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Re: 2016 PokerStars MTT Discussion Thread (Last Update: 2016/01/06)

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make the withered 55t reentry a 55t super ko
just make it 5k starting stack 6max turbo re-entry / freezeout

not everything has to be a psko
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