Oh sry Mister $5.5-$33 HU MTT Reg God (lol@ 30% roi in HU MTTS)

You guys are the real Ballers, i get it.

It seems like you two really rely on these games to run, i see what you are doing there.


Stars pls delete all HU PKO MTTs, its killing the economy and Regs are winning way to much money in them...fast!

Now im really out here, i lost the battle with this post. I just get triggered to hard by naive beginners.

How do you expect someone to take you serious if you are just disrespectful to others?

You behave like a 10 year old who is trying to force his opinion on others, no matter if its right or wrong just to "win and feel better".
I was just telling facts thats all. & you just talk complete rubbish without having any proofs or experience as basis for your arguments.

And once again sharkscope is your friend. If you would use it you would also know that I am not a "naive beginner" you genious.

"It seems like you two really rely on these games to run, i see what you are doing there."
So now you agree that they are profitable and you change the topic to "offend others"?

I am not the only one who likes those games, the growing player numbers in these tournaments speak for itself. Its just natural to suggest adding more of those tournaments since their popularity is growing and I also like playing them.

It might be better for you if you just leave and stop commenting here, if you just try to offend others because they have a different opinion than you.

Cool posts you guys

Imagine getting this mad because people want MORE tournaments.

Here's a clue ****stick, if you can't beat a game, DON'T PLAY IT.

Although I'm sure adding 3-4 more HU zooms would destroy your Stars experience.

Moron.

Traffic is terrible anyway compared to other years and adding more tourneys will take attention from other majors so yes it will destroy it mby.I speak before 1-2 years with luke in this thread about adding more tourneys and his asnwer wwas exactly that they will take players from other tourneys so i stopped giving my ideas.U can stop also + stop your stupid argument about 5% hypers be raketrap but 10% turbo isnt ,theyre both raketraps that why i allmost stop playing on this ****e site and start give my attention to party which give me with their promotion more rakeback than I even give sometimes.

There is not infinite money in poker. You are doing the exact same thing people did for years: Ask for more stuff on your favourite game. The growing numbers in this heads up stuff probably come at the expense of the other stuff. People dont deposit because they only want to play hu-ko-zoom-mtts.

Suggestions should be more about good structures, better payouts and so on.

Adding more and more only leads to recs losing their money because they can now burn through their 50/100$ deposit in 2-3 hours rather than just have a few decent options which cost them 25 and they come back the next day or next weekend and still have something in their account to play for. You want to win all the money that is in poker rather today and dont think about the longterm viability.

I mean you have a decent point here, but I dont think Pokerstars really cares about longterm. Just think about Spin & Goes & Rake increases.
If they would really think longterm they wouldnt increase the rake which makes people lose their money faster & also wouldnt offer a format like Spin & Gos, Hyper Turbo KO Sngs with 12 % rake where people burn their money.

I also think that people would deposit more money if there is a format they really like.

And if someone wants to burn his money it doesnt really matter how many tournaments the schedule has. They will just find another tournament which is already in the schedule to continue playing and if there is none they play Cash or Spins/Sngs.

Having more good tournaments in the schedule also increases the traffic because people basically start playing more on stars and less on other sites.

There are always some advantages and disadvanteges in this case, but I think there is a better upside than downside, especially when it comes to increasing the amount of tournaments of new more popular and exiting formats.

I can assure u that grinders dont multitable and adding zooms + fun players dont play multi zoom tournaments.

I wasnt talking about grinders or multi tabling.

I was talking about players in general. When I was a rec many years ago I started playing Poker on PartyPoker and then moved to Pokerstars because it had a better schedule & I think if the schedule improves, a lot more people from other sites would move to stars too. But right now its probably the opposite because of the bad payout structures.

Those people who play Zoom tournaments usually play 1-2 table at the same time and many of them dont even play any other tournaments than Zoom tournaments like a lot of people only play Bounty Builders or Bigs or Omaha MTTs, but If you take a look at the current schedule there are big gaps where those people cant find any tournaments to play.
Especially the gap from 11:10 CET to 14:30 CET is a big problem.

If you take a look at "Bigs", "Hots" and "Bounty Builders" the schedule is super balanced. But the schedule for Zoom is just super random and unbalanced. If you are someone who doesnt play those $ 1-3 Zooms the gaps become even bigger.



What we need for Zoom MTTs in general is a similar schedule like Bigs/Hots/Bounty Builders have. With equal gaps between those tournaments.
Id also like to see a few more non-turbo Zooms. Right now we only have 1 non-turbo Zoom MTT in the whole schedule which has 7 minutes blind levels. So its basically a semi-turbo, but thats fine.

Most of the zooms have pretty small guarantee because of the reduced late reg + bad payouts + increased rake for small stakes so they are not atractive to recs since they see hot 3.3 10 k grt and 3.3 $ zoom with 1.5-1.8 k guarantie or hyper 3.3 with 2.5 k guarantie which ends much faster than zoom

There is no longterm viability on pokerstars in mtts anymore. It's literally impossible to win unless you run insanely good.

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not too suprising luke stopped posting in this kindergarten

Hots now have 5 minute blind levels...

He left for only one reason. Because he knew that hes going to continue with changes which most people wont agree with. Just take a look what happened since he is gone.

We have got the new payout structure for almost all tournaments now. Even for Bounty Builders where it doesnt make any sense.

Feel free to keep defending him if you enjoy those changes.

HU zooms are not "turbos" in any meaningful sense of the words, most of the time you're playing roughly 4 hands per minute (6+ if you're good), so that means you'll on average play around 120 hands before you get down to 30 bb with starting stack. A regular turbo takes the same time, but you're down to 30bb playing around 25-30 hands, so they are extremely far from each other.

Have fun at Party grinding a tougher field and playing 8 hour tournaments because Pads and co want their stable to do well. RB and a slightly better rake structure make no difference at the low stakes.

And you know this how? You know how many people are on Stars, how many enjoy these games and how much they would impact the ecosystem how?

According to you, why am I listening to you again?

I'm guessing you must love the new payout then because it allows recs to keep playing for longer.

My bad, my 2-3 extra hu tournaments for 2-500 players guaranteed would obviously kill poker, at least I can put that on my resume "suggestions so lethal, I literally ended an industry."

LOL at 8 hour mtts on partypoker. Stars mtts like marathon and deep stacks play well better and longer. Way too may 8 min blind turbofests on partypoker. Only the big flagship mtts are going 8 hours on partypoker these days.

They always did though..?

[QUOTE=7OAD;54790520]HU zooms are not "turbos" in any meaningful sense of the words, most of the time you're playing roughly 4 hands per minute (6+ if you're good), so that means you'll on average play around 120 hands before you get down to 30 bb with starting stack. A regular turbo takes the same time, but you're down to 30bb playing around 25-30 hands, so they are extremely far from each other.

Have fun at Party grinding a tougher field and playing 8 hour tournaments because Pads and co want their stable to do well. RB and a slightly better rake structure make no difference at the low stakes.



And you know this how? You know how many people are on Stars, how many enjoy these games and how much they would impact the ecosystem how?


Well Party have more than a twice less rake for bounties and turbos ,less in reg speed and hypers also for micro stakes .Field in micros and low is as bad as stars but the fields are much smaller and payouts are much better i dont grind it full cuz in my country i have bwin which is the worse skin and still didnt upgrade its software and its terrible for multitabling atleast for me ,once they fix i will full transition if i play poker still .I dont want to mention all promotions on party with free tickets + overlay on some tourneys.I dont like weekly status for rakeback but it is still very easy to make 20% rakeback not that it matter in micros that much but it adds to overall promotions which i dont think are big but compared to stars are much better for the low rake they charge.

So I applied only 1 filter , "Speed Slow", and this is what I got, 1 tournament! There is only 1 MTT on Stars in a 24 period with a traditional slow speed. This is terrible. This is the death of poker. Welcome to the Stars casino.

wondering why there isnt a daily slow blue pko yet. also wondering when sunday warmup becomes a 109 pko

I'd hazard a guess that combining the casual player friendly PKO format with the not so casual player friendly runtime of 8+ hours creates a tournament not many people are asking for.

Warmup change is probably related to SM change.

facepalm

payouts blow

schedule sucks

damage is done

promotions and rewards are a joke

pokerstars really sucks

Lol party until now give me so many tickets/ bonus/promotions + yesterday 530$ticket that my rakeback is probably 1000% ++ for ocassional play low volume .Stars in other case for almost 3 years gave me less for 150 times more rake and volume even that the freerols they make on series are bigger they are split among 20 times more people atleast so in future my choice is clear .Stars give added 2 k in tickets ,party-i didnt count but mby around 15 k .