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Old 09-17-2018, 04:22 PM   #11851
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Re: PokerStars MTT Thread

Missing a 11 109 1k hyper PSKO after the last event tomorrow.
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Old 09-17-2018, 04:41 PM   #11852
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less than 10% of the prizepool for first in the 215 phase and 55 main event is absolutely ridiculous
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Old 09-17-2018, 07:36 PM   #11853
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After adding highrollers ,we -the poor players still want some majors for us .Can u try monthly phase 2.20$ with 100k guarantie and some added tickets inside ,i think it will be pretty good for recs and will be pretty interesting.Also for europe we dont have deep turbo PKO,only one hyper PKO and add 8 max PKO for low stakes as u said (having plans).I still dont know why u remove 1.1$ saturday/sunday splash blue tournament which was afternoon europe time.Also think about decrease little bit rake(on the rebuys-for rebuys half rake or 75%) on the for these micro tournament so it became popular.Nowadays i see rebuy tournaments dead and i stop playing them as many other (small guaranties, big rake).Still waiting for 8.8 big,hot,bounty builder and i think theres slot for all of them on european afternoon -night schedule for sure .
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Old 09-18-2018, 05:50 AM   #11854
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Old 09-18-2018, 08:14 AM   #11855
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Luke, if you want MTTs to keep hitting the guarantee here is a hint:

Add normal speed satellites for 1/10 or 1/5 of the buyin.

I stopped playing sats because they are mostly turbo/hyper turbo.

And when there is a rare normal speed satt, the buyin is like 5% of the ticket, that is way too low. Getting a ticket beating 80% or 90% of the field is ok, but seeing you have to beat 95% or higher is just demotivating to register.

Just think about it. What argument could you have against it? Its a Win Win.

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I don't know why they would pay only 5% , I also stopped playing sats when most of them are hyper turbos with little value.
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Old 09-18-2018, 09:03 AM   #11856
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not every event has to be super special. just give us 3 weeks with great structures and not-broken payouts pls.
exactly, most players like the nice structures and big guarantees of WCOOP. And for this more than two series a year would be great also.

For all the PLO players 3 weeks of great PLO mtts every other day would be great. It absolutely doesn't has to be special. Something like
25$/215$/2100$ as regular price (Tuesday)
5$+R/55$+R/550$+R (Thursday)
109$/1050$/10000$ Highroller (Saturday) and repeat

making highroller 215$/2100$/25000$ just makes middle stakes player play the low and hs player play m as pointed out. Insted better to make some 4th level for super high roller in between (like 4th level w 25k buy-in once)
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Old 09-18-2018, 09:26 AM   #11857
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Luke ,what do you think about making a bounty series/hunter series with all tournaments being PKO and KO,something like 10-14 days with various structures and % of Ko's and again structured for l/m/h events or just diferent events but with byins for everystakes player.For example sunday milion and storm to be KO with 1 re-entry only and bigger guaranties i think it will be great success.
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Old 09-18-2018, 02:00 PM   #11858
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i prefer 3 weeks because i can spread the grind out with some off days in between, which is impossible if u mash everythign into 2 making it a much less enjoyable overall experience. also u cant claim that the guarantees overall as a sum are the same as it would be in 3, none of the days was overly optimistic in guarantee, in fact all the 215s were lowballed super hard. but thats another story, i would like to have some stars mtts to play that are special for 3 weeks in september as is the case in may during what is called the WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP of onine poker. cant eb that some spring series is bigger and better for more than a decade running still imo
Thanks for providing feedback. We'll take a look to see how two weeks performed compared to three and determine if it will be a permanent change.

As for the $215s, I do see a few that were too low (with hindsight being 20/20): 16-L, 21-M, 33-M, 35-M, 45-M, 51-M, and 57-M. For about half of these, the guarantees were set as such because there were no reasonable comparison tournaments. For the others (most notably 35-M and 57-M), I'll take a closer look to see what happened when setting the guarantees.

Lastly, for what you're saying about World Championship vs. Spring Championship - changing WCOOP to two weeks was meant to be a step toward making it stand out more compared to SCOOP. This is because the buy-ins were skewed higher in WCOOP compared to SCOOP so as to make it a bit more exclusive in some respects, though I guess if high-stakes players had their way, the buy-ins would keep getting higher...

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Wcoop 5k main, still had 40+mins of late reg and it only had 770/1.2k hyper sng sats left.
Cmon, add some 75/109$ and 215$ hypers, everyone is going to try those, if you can spend over a thousand dollars for a hyper sng, you can definitely just directly buy-in. You do not listen to/understand players!
Thanks for the suggestion, agree that we could have had something additional in those final 40 minutes.

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@luke hmmm i coudnt find those 530$ 12 min lvl you are talking about all i could see were 530$ 5 min lvl and 3 min/ i was searching for them in main event lobby but cound find them idk what could be the reason for that
when was the last one 530 with 12 min lvl?
The $215s ran on: 3, 5, 7, 8, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16 September
The $530s ran on: 2, 4, 6, 9, 11, 13, 15 September

All the $530s ran at 15:35 ET, with the exception of the one on the 15th, which ran at 12:35 ET.

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i would prefer to have 3 weeks with more events ofcourse and not just same amount streched to 3 weeks. Id also liek to see some days that have exclusivly non NLHE events running (so i can take day off).
There are some events that didnt run this time i think like the 2-7 or badugi.
Those coudl run in 3 weeks and i rly wouldnt mind if some events were recurrying 2-3 times like the standard NLHE/PKOs. not every event has to be super special. just give us 3 weeks with great structures and not-broken payouts pls.
2-7 ran, but you're right that a couple games were left out. I think the problem with having days without any NLHE is that the non-NLHE Events on those days would really suffer. People just need to learn to take a day off when it suits them!

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+ 1 to 3 weeks. That said, I think it's been a great series for the brief time it lasted.
Thanks, I am relieved that it is (almost) over. We did a handful of things differently, so I'm excited to pore through the results and determine what to do for SCOOP!

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soo,
16.5$ Pacific Rim runs 80 minutes, is still in 86m late reg with 50bb starting stack but no satellites running anymore.. weak
Will follow up on this - seems like that is the best time to run satellites to this tournament due to its start time. Maybe instead of adding, we'll just move the existing ones forward a bit.

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Yes Luke but this structure is mostly used in a 1-in-20 sat.

For example look at the WCOOP-61: 109 NLH Prog KO

As far as I can see only one(!) sat that is not a turbo has a buyin of 1-to-10 or better (mtt number 2408590505)

And it starts 7h30 before the actual event (11h30 CET to 19h CET)? This is way to early. They are now on the bubble, so the sat will only take 2h30 to reach the tickets. You can pop in a few of those during the day, even 5 to 3 hours before the event.

The other 23 sat that are in the lobby do not meet the criteria of at least 1-in-10 AND normal speed.

So just 1 in 24 sats is a 'good' sat.

Do you see what I mean?
I do see what you mean. We'll make a couple adjustments to the structure to make it more suitable for 1-in-10 satellites. Any other comments on it?

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Great guaranteeds today, dropping everything to how it was in dead summer days while there are still series events going on all around.. Big 109 20kgtd really? Not even remotely trying to push gtds up, instead keeping them as low as possible, way to go
Going to follow up on this as well. They were increased during WCOOP at mid and high-stakes, but should not have gone to Barcelona levels yesterday.

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What is the point in doing high roller events for the L and M 'COOP's?

Surely the Low High Roller just becomes another event for the Medium players, and the Medium event just becomes another event at the High price point?
Of course the higher buy-ins will mean some Low players don’t participate, but it’s aspirational and fun to participate in a ‘high roller’ event and that label will lead some Low players to make this the event they save up for / satellite into.

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Missing a 11 109 1k hyper PSKO after the last event tomorrow.
If we kept doing this, there would be no last Event!

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less than 10% of the prizepool for first in the 215 phase and 55 main event is absolutely ridiculous
Why?

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After adding highrollers ,we -the poor players still want some majors for us .Can u try monthly phase 2.20$ with 100k guarantie and some added tickets inside ,i think it will be pretty good for recs and will be pretty interesting.Also for europe we dont have deep turbo PKO,only one hyper PKO and add 8 max PKO for low stakes as u said (having plans).I still dont know why u remove 1.1$ saturday/sunday splash blue tournament which was afternoon europe time.Also think about decrease little bit rake(on the rebuys-for rebuys half rake or 75%) on the for these micro tournament so it became popular.Nowadays i see rebuy tournaments dead and i stop playing them as many other (small guaranties, big rake).Still waiting for 8.8 big,hot,bounty builder and i think theres slot for all of them on european afternoon -night schedule for sure .
Keep fighting the micro-stakes fight. The focus has been on high-stakes over the past month, but we'll make sure we put some attention on the lower stakes as well.

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+1

I don't know why they would pay only 5% , I also stopped playing sats when most of them are hyper turbos with little value.
I think we should have as much variety as possible while realizing that people like 1-in-20 satellites just as much as 1-in-10, and so on.

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exactly, most players like the nice structures and big guarantees of WCOOP. And for this more than two series a year would be great also.

For all the PLO players 3 weeks of great PLO mtts every other day would be great. It absolutely doesn't has to be special. Something like
25$/215$/2100$ as regular price (Tuesday)
5$+R/55$+R/550$+R (Thursday)
109$/1050$/10000$ Highroller (Saturday) and repeat

making highroller 215$/2100$/25000$ just makes middle stakes player play the low and hs player play m as pointed out. Insted better to make some 4th level for super high roller in between (like 4th level w 25k buy-in once)
Thanks for the feedback, fellow Omaha fan.

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Luke ,what do you think about making a bounty series/hunter series with all tournaments being PKO and KO,something like 10-14 days with various structures and % of Ko's and again structured for l/m/h events or just diferent events but with byins for everystakes player.For example sunday milion and storm to be KO with 1 re-entry only and bigger guaranties i think it will be great success.
It would be called Bounty Builder Series!
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Old 09-18-2018, 02:22 PM   #11859
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It would be called Bounty Builder Series![/QUOTE]

When to expect this series .I think mid octomber will be good as we dont have special events for this month i guess?
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Old 09-18-2018, 02:31 PM   #11860
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It would be called Bounty Builder Series!
Copy Knockout Week and you're good.
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Old 09-18-2018, 02:39 PM   #11861
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Copy Knockout Week and you're good.
WE hope thats its not only one week ...
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Old 09-18-2018, 05:38 PM   #11862
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whatever happened to 1/2rebuy + 1addon mtts?i enjoyed them a lot and i assume that a lot of people did. also any chance for some midstakes non-turbo 4max mtt in the regular schedule?
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Old 09-18-2018, 06:32 PM   #11863
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Hi Luke, Congrats to all of your team for running a good WCOOP series. I enjoyed it a lot with some deep runs in -L events.

About 2vs3 weeks for me is whatever. I prefer to have more events, so if 3 weeks is equal to more MTTS, I like it more then 2.

About Sats - I think that there should be more 10k stack 8/10 min Sats that award ticket 1/10 or lower like 1/8 per entry or 3k starting stack and 10 min with the same ratio. I had problem with starting time of some Sats (except the phase and ME Sats, that run all the time). Like all the Sats were around 1 day or lower from the start of the Event. I could not play the Sats for the early Evens, because they started so early in the day and there were very few Sats later in the last day. Even I could not play some of the sats for the second Event of the day, because again they start to early. Please check this. You could add more Sats the day before the Event. I suggested before ITT that it is nice idea to have that big normal speed Deadline Sat before 1 day of the start of the Event. Like always it is nice to have more Sats, I would play most of them if they are reg speed, as I played most of them in this Series that suited my time.

And again before months I suggested that it is nice idea to run some Series every month for 1 week or for the weekend or every second week to have spacial MTTs. There are a lot of positive things that can happen here for all. Like even to boost 180s bots with some promo once in a 2 weeks.

And as always I feel bad when looking at the lobby of the tourney and see that rake >10% for micros.
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Old 09-18-2018, 08:08 PM   #11864
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less than 10% of the prizepool for first in the 215 phase and 55 main event is absolutely ridiculous

Why?


Are you serious??? Looking at big and hot payouts nowadays is the most tilting thing..
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Old 09-18-2018, 08:24 PM   #11865
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less than 10% of the prizepool for first in the 215 phase and 55 main event is absolutely ridiculous

Why?


Are you serious??? Looking at big and hot payouts nowadays is the most tilting thing..
https://www.pocketfives.com/tournament/1464719/
https://www.pocketfives.com/tournament/852209/

tourneys with similar fieldsize
18% and 19% to first place
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Old 09-19-2018, 12:38 AM   #11866
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That 'why?' is so disrespectful, infuriating and stupid.
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Old 09-19-2018, 04:54 AM   #11867
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Luke will there be a Winter MTT series just after Christmas like last year?
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Old 09-19-2018, 06:54 AM   #11868
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I feel bad for guys who are still trying to give suggestions. Luke's just ****ing with you
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Old 09-19-2018, 08:05 AM   #11869
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Why?
Read your own thread. Plenty of reasons why posted here while you were gone. Your payout-tables "test" didnt go down well here, you think it was a success?
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Old 09-19-2018, 08:55 AM   #11870
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Luke will there be a Winter MTT series just after Christmas like last year?


With ME 55-513-2100 or 22-215-2100?
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Old 09-19-2018, 05:36 PM   #11871
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A Bounty Builder Series in Late October/Early November with 3 tiers like WCOOP will be amazing and i don`t see any reason why this should not be implemented even if its 1 week or 10 days, everyone loves PKO`s and its an empty time on the schedule...

What do you think Luke?

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Old 09-19-2018, 09:52 PM   #11872
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Think having a seperate tiered PKO-COOP is too much. Halloween Bounty Week perhaps? 1 week should be enough, just not realistic to squeeze in another 2-week series in between wcoop and winter series which Im sure will run again. Absolutely loved it!
Just boost gtds of daily BB's and make Daily majors PKO (Monday 6m, ST, SWU, SM...) and have some promo's.

Noone complained about payout structures "before" they were changed. Change them back pls.

3 week WCOOP pls with NLHE events everyday. Who wants to take a day off during a COOP anyways.

Would welcome some change in the daily schedule. Switch some BI's up, interchange some type of tournaments with eachother f.e.
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Old Yesterday, 05:48 AM   #11873
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Why aren't there any Cadooz/Gift certificates in the rewards store anymore?
Will they come back?
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Old Today, 03:27 AM   #11874
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I do see what you mean. We'll make a couple adjustments to the structure to make it more suitable for 1-in-10 satellites. Any other comments on it?
Thanks for looking into this Luke.

I would really like to see more reg speed satts in the bigger mtts (55 buyin and higher) such as (KO)omanias, battle royals, thursday thrills, bounty builders etc with a 1-in-10 payout or even 1-in-5 payout.
I really think this could attract another group of lowstakes players into these mtts and boost the overall prize pools.
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