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Old 01-09-2016, 12:14 PM   #76
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Re: 2016 PokerStars MTT Discussion Thread (Last Update: 2016/01/06)

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. I've gone from playing ~6 to 12 MTTs a day at Stars to playing ~3 to 6. There are less and less tournaments that interest me.
Started my tuesday session around Super Tuesday this week around 21 CET, things went fairly bad first 20 minutes and i was left two tabling super tuesday @ 9:20 CET and had the big55 open. I looked at the lobby at that point and assuming you dont want to register until 4 a.m. CET in the morning i can reg above 55$ after the big55 on Stars for the next hours:

big162
109 cubed turbo( i skip it bc its one of the worst tourneys)
109$ turbo
82$ bounty builder (had already stopped session at that point)
215$ turbo (ez skip bc ripoff rake)

this is the Pokerstars offering one the second biggest day of the week close to absolute prime time. Notice how 3/5 are turbos.
Why is there no good regspeed tournament after 22:00 CET for the next 3 hours? THe 82$ BB is the only thing that is ok, but often it takes too long and I end up skipping it.

How can you not see that there is a demand for more tourneys on the big days? Just please considering adding another good freezeout in the 23:00 timeslot your site is complete bull**** on non-sundays after 22:00 and there is literally nothing worth regging (assuming you reg until hot44 after 22:00 CET there i can usually reg like 9-10 more tourneys and 8 (!!!!!!!!!!) of them are random lowstakes turbos with 10% rake

And yeah standard rant about HS turbo RAke, minis, widening offering on tuesday/thursday
potentially take a closer look at what competitors are offering and realize that you are completly ripping off every play in turbos???
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Old 01-09-2016, 12:47 PM   #77
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Re: 2016 PokerStars MTT Discussion Thread (Last Update: 2016/01/06)

I normally don't complain in here, but if I see it right, you have taken away the VIP weekly 30k SilverStar+ Freeroll??

Also I see that the Monthly SilverStar+ and GoldStar+ both have been downgraded to worse structures with only a 1500 chip starting stack. Will this be changed Luke? We lobbied for a long time for the changes in these structures and they were great.
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Old 01-09-2016, 01:34 PM   #78
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Discussion in 2015 thread:

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I've asked this before and I will ask it again - Can we expect a fix of the structure of Montly 100 FPP 30,000$ ? Something like Big structure with first levels 6 min, then 8 min and then 10 min levels?
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Can you update the ChromeStar+ Freeroll to the current SilverStar+ stucture and 3k starting stack?

All freerolls should get the same love!
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I just deployed the VIP tournaments for June. The SilverStar+ VIP $30,000 Weekly now has a VLT structure. ID: 1241245574
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Can you change the starting stack to 3k chips in the Monthly Freeroll?
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Nice timing on this as I deployed the VIP tournaments yesterday. Done!
Wtf? Now I have only 1 chance to play silverstars freeroll and now you make it 1500 with 10 min late reg once again? Wtf was that discussion all about?
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Old 01-09-2016, 01:58 PM   #79
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Hi all,

I think there has been a misunderstanding! I am a fan of the mini-majors. My intention was simply to temper expectations by mentioning that they had promotional support in the form of added money and over 900,000 emails. In my first post, I even alluded to the idea of reducing buy-ins of majors. Our goals appear to be aligned, but the execution has not been determined and I'll need your feedback to get it right. This was my first week in the office after two weeks on holiday. Let me get my head on straight!

Still, there often appears to be a disconnect between how we view changing the schedule. Any change I make is with the goal of making players happy (thus playing more tournaments) and increasing prize pools/guarantees. I am of the view that any changes to the current schedule need to result in a more cohesive, pared down offering. Bounty Builders was a step in this direction.

Back to our regularly scheduled answers...

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schedule for micro/low players is not that great, and we dont have enough mtts to fulfill a complete grind session, so plz, dont remove then.

and bring back micromillions, its like the wcoop for micro players.
I think you misunderstood my meaning. The micro and low stakes schedule will likely increase in size, not decrease.

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mini 1ks!!!
The $109 Bounty Builder counts as a Thursday Mini-Thrill, doesn't it?

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bounty builders six max on the schedule!
Bounty Builders will stay 9-max.

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GL Luke for 2016. I'm hoping to see:
  • Bigs/Hots with 5k starting stack and dynamic structures but obviously don't want to see them turn into turbos/hyper turbos in first 2 hrs.
  • More mtt promotions. Would like to see more giveaways in mtts. Minis with giveaways every last week of the month, or once in every 2 months please.
  • Don't forget mixed game/draw schedule. I've posted many times in the past regarding badugi, 2-7 triple draw, 2-7 single draw schedule here HERE
  • 1k or 5k Stars Coin Zoom tourney(make it run every last week of the month)
  • Bigs and Hots will definitely transform this year. As far as structure goes, the Bigs will likely be 8-10-12-15 minute levels when the new functionality hits. I anticipate this being a very smooth experience.
  • In my opinion, we run quite a few MTT promotions. We have three *COOPs which take up a bit more time when they include Phase events, the Christmas Calendar promotions, Knockout Week, Common Cents, Daily Double Jackpots, Red Spade Open, so on and so forth. I do realize that some of them are not popular with this audience, but I'm really just trying to say that the volume feels sufficient. All that said, any promotional ideas posted here will make their way to the appropriate team.
  • The non-NLHE schedule will also change this year. I'm not exactly sure how yet, but I do know that the Daily $27s and Weekly $82/$215s do not perform well. I am very open to suggestions for innovative (and free) ways of improving the non-NLHE offering.
  • I'll pass on the StarsCoin tournament suggestion to Matthew. I always thought it would be fun to have a "PokerStars Retro" week. Re-skin the client to the original version, run the Turbo Takedown, the $5K winner-take-all, etc.

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Thanks for answering, Luke

For the minis, can't you just implement them on a regular Sunday once, see how they do and re-evaluate? If they perform well (and tbf we all know they will), there would be little reason not to keep them right? Especially since you want to do more for micro players

With that said, even as a lowstakes player the thought of a lower abi tournament schedule kinda scares me
It is impossible to measure their success over a sample size of one week. The red tournament schedule will change considerably in 2016 and the ABI of special tournaments will probably be reduced.

I did not mean to imply that buy-ins will be capped at $55 or something along those lines. I just want to craft a more exciting schedule for our micro to low stakes players and judging by the response you've all had to the mini-majors, we're all in agreement. The natural result of this is that the ABI of the schedule will be slightly lower.

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how did you rich this conclusion? any data to support this?
I looked at all results for 2015.

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the argument for not reducing PKO rake sounds a lot like an argument for reducing mid-high stakes turbo rake!
The same answer stands for turbos if you replace "extremely high" with "fair".

I need to be clear in saying that rake-setting is not a negotiation. I am making an honest effort to be frank with you all, but I will not post data and I don't think it will be productive for us to constantly revisit this topic.

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How about this one... I could really dig up more but honestly I don't feel like it. You conveniently avoided questions recently in the past that you don't want to answer if you don't have a solid response to a given matter. It's probably on issues where you feel you know better because data. And you're also incredibly stubborn when it comes to some things which is bloody frustrating for a person in your position.

I don't see you changing bounty builders to 6-max even though .fr has them all 6-max and even though pskos play much better 6-max. That $44 was by far my favourite tournament and many others agreed ITT already and it was taken away.

Matthew has been under heavy fire recently but he's been extremely responsive and visible, even though I didn't agree with many things that he said it was nice to see him coming in trying to defend his point. Keith has been going out of his way helping out with the lag which I'd think is outside his responsibilities (as I see software development completely as a separate thing). You usually just go quiet if there's heat and you feel attacked and try wait out when people stop mentioning an issue.

And you should really try step up your GTD setup game. It's nowhere as horrible as in the beginning but there's still so much room for improvement, but it usually takes ages of both persuading and both implementation. Just because you believe that GTDs don't matter and they don't increase traffic but it happens on its own.

Or you won't implement minis more regularly because reasons.

How would you explain that a site like 888 with horrible software has been able to outgrow many tournaments that have some sort of equivalents on stars despite having much smaller playerbase?

And you never ever take any risks to grow, even though probably pretty much every other site (and business) does that, including stars.fr, which is lol.

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This is the impression of you that many of us have, and you don't seem to care about changing it and improving the situation. You treat negative feedback like haters - just continuing ignoring them.

Also you never ever addressed hs turbo rake, it's been like what, 5 years? I know why, because you have 0 arguments to back it up. You can defend PSKO rake because of winrates but you ignore hs turbo rake, just amazing. Games should be beatable, that's why we play poker and not casino games.
When I write a post, I grab a huge multi-quote and then put it into a Word or Outlook window to work on it. Sometimes something pressing comes up and it sits for hours. The Rounder quote you mention above as "dodging" is included in this round of replies. I'm sorry you're disappointed with the $44 6-max going away, but this is an inevitable result of changing the schedule. The implementation of Bounty Builders has been a big success and I think your peers would agree. More people have been made happy by that change than have been left upset.

I'll take your comment about guarantees as a compliment.

Apologies if you think I dodge questions or avoid arguments. I'll try to do better in 2016.

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Why are you looking to reduce the abi of the schedule?
It's a worrying idea and I don't understand the rationality for it.
Party and 888 have both increasing there bigger buy in offerings in the last 6 months.
Like I said above, it is very unlikely to be as drastic as many think. I'm still in the planning process and gathering feedback here and from my colleagues. Please share any creative ideas you may have!

I can't speak for our competitors, but I think we have plenty of big buy-in options for now.

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Posted in the other, now closed thread and have seen it mentioned here and figured I get my support for this idea in (I'd like to see a uniform structure for the cubed/quads as well, but admittedly I'm anal and have OCD)...

Can you make the $3-R 8K a consistent structure? Why is it a half-turbo structure on Mon/Wed/Fri and regular on Tues/Thurs/Sat when you aren't changing the structures of anything else around it? Just use the regular structure and make it the same everyday and then use the special Sunday structure... or change it to the same as the $11-R, that would be good too.

Edit: Same for the $2-R as well. Like there are 4 of them with 4 different structures within 3.5 hours (one is an Action Hour). Everyone seems to love the $11-R structure, why hasn't it just been implemented as a blanket structure for regular speed rebuys?
It is clear from this thread that the new rebuy structure has been a success. I'll begin rolling it out the week beginning 18 January. It will take a bit of time to change every script, but I too appreciate consistency.

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What data is the above based on? There were discussions of this in the Omaha and other games thread that were inconclusive on whether 6-max was the way to go for the Omanias.

I think the fact that PLO is more popular in cash games as a 6-max format doesn't necessarily translate to PLO8 and NLO8 tournaments. The $8.80 Omania and $27 Omania, both which are 9-max are fine the way they are imo. If you were to change the format, the most I'd make them is an 8-max.

A few 2016 wish list items for Non-Holdem games:

1) More NLO8 MTT hypers - lots of room in the schedule for Stars to add to. Need more micros ($2.20-$5.50), a HS ($109-$215) and PKO (only one is the $82 that is extremely popular). See this thread for a detailed schedule.

2) Updating structures of $530 Omahas (been an outstanding issue for a while and players continue to pay the full $30 in rake)

3) Adding a NLO8 high stakes ($320 to $530) weekday tournament.

4) Incorporating something similar to Full Tilt's Game of the Week that highlights a different game every week/month. Lots of potential for Pokerstars as a lot of your competitors do not have the capability to offer some of the Stud and Draw games.

5) Updating turbo night schedule to match current games (i.e. more NLO8 hypers).

6) Being more receptive to changing the status quo. Two specific examples:

a) There's a $5.50 PLO8 rebuy at 13:35 with a $1,500 guarantee that is priced too low, despite hitting it's guarantee daily. If it was changed to $11, most of the players are price insensitive and would still play it and the prize pool would double.
b) There's a $7.50 NLO8 hyper 1R1A at 19:05 with a $1k guarantee that consistently exceeds the guarantee. If it was changed to a regular rebuy, the prizepool would at least double because players are often in positions where they bust both bullets before the addon.

These are just two examples where the members of the tournament team do not choose to incorporate changes (these have been suggested several times) because the status quo appears to be "fine". Don't be afraid to be bold and take a chance. We are the ones playing in these games after all.
You and I have will plenty of conversations this year! The impetus for changing Omania to 6-max is not based on data. I do not think 9-max has worked very well and changing it is a risk. Also, we do not have any 6-max umbrella brands and will not have a NLHE 6-max umbrella brand. It seems a natural strategic change to make and will give it some much needed unique qualities. I'm open to more thoughts but I currently think having daily red tournaments which are 6-max and multi-stack will be a nice change of pace.

I'm not against changing the status quo, and your suggestions are always well thought-out. That said, it is typically a matter of bandwidth. Non-NLHE games are lower on the totem pole, so to speak. They need an intense focus and keen eye. I'll do my best to give them the attention they need in 2016.

I particularly like the idea of test a). I'll get that one in next week.

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Obv change all rebuys to this one latest structure is obv

Reducing the Abi of the schedule would require you to cut out high stakes mtts as you obviously won't be adding small buyin majors and def won't be adding small buyin bowls. That seems like a terrible terrible terrible idea and if you do it's a shot in your own leg

Dodging all the important question isn't really the way to go Luke, all of us would be much happier with an honest shtty reply than what you have been doing.

Just woke up so forgot a number of points I wanted to rant about but I ok be back
In reality, what I had in mind is exactly what you said I wouldn't do. Not exactly adding bowls, but smaller buy-in majors.

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It should be a nobrainer to add minis if not weekly then at least once a month.

I think it would be nice if you make the last weekend of every month bigger. Add minis and couple 1k-2k HS vanilla MTTs. For example...

11$ Mini Kick-Off, 109$ Kickoff, 1k$ 6-max Highroller Kickoff
22$ Mini Warm-up, 215$ Warm-Up, 700$ Highroller Warm-Up
22$ Minimillion, 215$ Sunday Million and 2k$ Highroller Million

Those don't have to run when you have a COOP in progress. Make good satellite offerings with 4x turbos etc. starting monday that week. Call it Monthly Challenge or something and and watch when guarantees get crushed. Ez game!
In my opinion, this is the type of idea that requires promotional support and planning. Besides, this will essentially be happening in May, right?

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I'm not sure what exact promotional support did the Mini's have?
I've trimmed down your post a bit, but I'll be forwarding it on to our Promotions team. The minis had added money, 900,000+ emails, and a time of high traffic. I'm not saying something similar won't happen again. I'm just trying to provide context so that we can all communicate about these topics a bit more clearly.

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Minis/Broken record/Rant
There's prob a lot of things people don't like about the way you run the mtt schedule, but I'm sure for most/all of those you have some good reasoning behind your decisions that perhaps we don't all fully understand.
But when it comes to the minis you are just wrong. We shouldn't have to plead over and over for you to give us back one of the most exciting/successful things you did in 2015.
Youre a business that is blatantly refusing to cater to customers demands for something that was sooooo successful. It's insanity. Tournaments aren't some kind of special edition sneaker that you sell in limited amounts and then refuse to sell to those that missed the one and only shipment.
People don't give a **** if it's on for a promotion or not, we just want to play nice tournaments. Too much to ask?
I remember waking up that day being so excited when I saw those (I like many others had no idea until logging in that day, lol promotion effect) and getting messages from the few Rec friends I have saying "OMGGG MINIS!!!" They were followed by messages a week later: "wtf is wrong with them? Where'd they go?"

I think your just truly out of touch with what today's players want, this is shown when guys like jdpc make huge posts that get left to die time and time again. How many +1's is this going to take until it sinks in? all you focus on is data and sustainability and liquidity and other annoying words that only serve as a way to brush us aside and keep the thread rolling in a way that just builds resentment towards stars from its most loyal customers. Not enough things get done and when they do they're super obvious decisions that take too long. Am I the only one that laughed at how long the "2015 summary" was? do you read that and feel like a solid years work was done?

We're literally at the point where we have asked so many times that people are starting to compromise and beg for them to be "atleast monthly". Again, we should not have to plead like this to be able to give you rake. Think of the sneakers. People want to wear them every weekend. Make some more of them. **** the promotion or the limited edition aspect.

If you think we're all wrong put the minis back weekly without a guarantee. What do you have to lose? Literally. Put them back with a guarentee of zero. Prove us wrong, shut us up and then go ahead with making them yearly or whatever you want do zzz. I feel like such a bloody whinger itt sometimes but you bring it out of me Luke.

Battle Royale Tickets
What do we think about removing the battle Royale tickets for mid-high bounty builders.
I feel like they're a bit pointless. Is there anyone on earth that plays the mid-high builders that is then like "nah I'm only gonna play the Royale if I satty in"..?
The filtering issue and the annoyance of the prize pool display is just not worth it for these tickets. The ticket gimick has nothing to do with their success (atleast not at the higher stakes), it's the good structure, red label and psko aspect that draw people in. Keep the tickets for the smaller stakes builders only imo.
Wouldn't mind getting rid of the tix altogether tbh but I can see them being a good thing at the smaller levels for sure.

etc.
- Daily 215 pacific rim. Do whatever guarentee you want, just put it in there. Asia pacific players need more love instead of their sessions becoming dead the second they bust the nightlies.
- lower turbo rake. I really wish we would all just strike on them until they do it but I worry people don't have the patience. It's the only way it will ever get done though.
That exciting and successful promotion was only a few Sundays ago. See the beginning of my post for some clarification.

In my last post, I mentioned a test for Bounty Builders. Starting Monday, the $1.10 and $7.50 Bounty Builders running Monday-Friday will not award tickets. We'll measure participation to see what kind of effect it has. I'm on the fence about the stakes argument for removing Bounty Builder tickets. This is because it is not a given that those who win tickets are always regs or even MTT players. Think of it as a way of potentially hooking people on the format we all love.

Lastly, I agree about more daily tournaments during off-peak. It will take some time but changes to those time slots in 2015 were generally met with success. Do you think there is an audience for $215 off-peak tournaments? The Pacific Rim satellites constantly cancel and because of this have been significantly reduced. What about something in the range of $55?

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Another point about the Bounty Builders awarding $109 tickets that I didn't mention, and I haven't seen mentioned by anyone else, is that it's kind of unfair to the lower-stakes winners to force them to spend a decent % of their winnings on a high-stakes MTT they'd otherwise not play. They've won their money fair and square, so they should be allowed to spend it however they want.

The guy who ships the 55c Bounty Builder will win $980 and a $109 ticket; just give the poor man $1100 ffs. If the tickets were an added bonus then sure, it'd be a nice extra. But you're taking the $109 out of the prize pool.
We have not received a single complaint and like a couple people have said, this is a very popular mechanic on other sites. We just need to fix the visual issues.

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3# You just said you want to lower the ABI of the schedule this year, I assume you realise that taking away Mill/kickoff/warm up/rebuy/ST/Thrill is a bad idea for everyone (people need to see that they could get better and one day play these games). I can't think of a better way to lower the ABI of the schedule than to permanently keep the most exciting low/micro MTTs I have ever seen on pokerstars.

6# Have you ever added a red tournament that didn't absolutely smash its guarantee? It doesn't happen. The demand is their, especially at these stakes.
#3 Some of the tournaments on the schedule are sacred and won't be removed!

#6 All of the non-NLHE red tournaments! That was an easy one, though.

Our interests are aligned. It will just take some careful planning.

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I consider your promotions a personal insult. I will not deposit money to have a chance at winning a $0.50 spin ticket or a seat to a 20,000 player donkament with a pitiful prize pool. I am a rec. player but I am not retarded. You are treating us like we are retarded. What the **** are you guys thinking?

I'm scrolling through the tournaments today and I'm trying to decide which ones I want to play. There is very little that interests me. 6 months ago I would scroll through and I would have a hard time choosing which to play because there were so many with good gtd and structure etc. You guys are killing your own games. What the **** are you thinking?!
I'll pass your promotional feedback along. Also, I think that the schedule is in a much better place than it was six months ago. Satellites have improved, new red tournaments have been added, and guarantees were increased to their normal levels where they could be. The Storm is still staying strong at $300K.

We have the whole year ahead to make significant changes and I'm very optimistic about the discussions we'll have and the progress that we'll make.
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Old 01-09-2016, 03:33 PM   #80
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Some good replies, thanks for taking the time to keep us informed. Really glad to hear you are a fan of the Minis. Also very happy the rebuys are getting some consistency.
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Old 01-09-2016, 03:34 PM   #81
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Luke if you were a betting man do you think WCOOP will have a higher or lower prize pool compared to last year?
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Old 01-09-2016, 04:23 PM   #82
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Sats have got alot worse actually, far less opportunities for players to sat in and the number of sats for the special sunday mill was a huge let down.
No rebuy fpp sats and no added x2 or x3 sats for the special mill, in which on the sunday of the tournament all the x3 sats hit the cap so a ****load of players didnt even get the opportunity to reg all x3 sats on that day.

Scrapping sats like the 11r and 8r sats to the mill on week days was fair enough because they made like 1 seat, but to get rid of the 2r x2 sats and 11r and 8r on sundays that gtd a load of seats was a big mistake.

Im not requesting any changes to improve things for the better how they use to be as thats 0% to happen ,but just thought id point out u shouldnt pat yourself on the back when you have actually made the sat schedule alot worse limiting sat options to all majors across the board and introducing the new min cashes for sats which are good for nobody.
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Old 01-09-2016, 04:38 PM   #83
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Mini's are the dream of micro/low stake (recreational) players like myself because we normally don't have the bankroll to play all the Sunday majors, we want to play them because they have a prestige on them, they are special but we can't afford them. And endlessly playing satellites and not qualifying is also frustrating.

The mini's would give us a chance to feel we have a special sunday too, not only highstakes players. We will feel that we are appreciated too.

As a low/micro player I currently don't have the feeling that I "must" log in on sundays like I currently am not doing, but if you introduce Mini's I will certainly clear up my Sunday to play the mini kick off, warm up, millilon, second chance, etc next to the storm and some big/hots/bbuilders.

A mini super tuesday would be lovely too. And I don't think all the mini's must come with big promotional campaigns, they will be a success themselves like the bounty builders. And you can always play with the guarantees if the amount of players are lower than expected.

Please do this for us, it's a win-win-win-win situation for the recs, micro/low stake players, regs and Pokerstars.
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Old 01-09-2016, 04:50 PM   #84
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luke, do you have news of TLB 2016?
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Is it possible to get a regular NLH Anti Up game back in the lobby running sometime between the $350 GNTD and $2000 GNTD ?

I see some satellites have been added for the $2000 GNTD anti up buy in, which is great, but are hypers and NL Holdem. Is it possible to change this to turbo / regular Ante Up structure / Add one that has the previous mention structure ?
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Sats have got alot worse actually, far less opportunities for players to sat in and the number of sats for the special sunday mill was a huge let down.
No rebuy fpp sats and no added x2 or x3 sats for the special mill, in which on the sunday of the tournament all the x3 sats hit the cap so a ****load of players didnt even get the opportunity to reg all x3 sats on that day.

Scrapping sats like the 11r and 8r sats to the mill on week days was fair enough because they made like 1 seat, but to get rid of the 2r x2 sats and 11r and 8r on sundays that gtd a load of seats was a big mistake.

Im not requesting any changes to improve things for the better how they use to be as thats 0% to happen ,but just thought id point out u shouldnt pat yourself on the back when you have actually made the sat schedule alot worse limiting sat options to all majors across the board and introducing the new min cashes for sats which are good for nobody.
It really depends what metric we use to determine success. The goals of Pokerstars are at the polar opposite of what players want.

Everyone can agree that Stars has chosen to reduce the rewards of "winning players" via the VIP changes.... so why wouldn't that extend to MTT's as well?

Every new introduction or removal of MTT's/Satellites has been done to increase Pstars' margins. Bounty builders are designed to recycle rake via players getting a portion of their buy in back to once again play another tourney. This money is taken from the prize pool and lowers conceivable ROI's. The tickets included in these tourneys are another method to extract rake.

It's not as easy for Pokerstars to increase margins via MTT's as it is for changes in the VIP program. Industry standards for rb vary greatly site to site... whereas the price of MTT's is pretty static and players can jump sites if the rake is higher on one site over the other. Therefore Stars can't start charging 10+3 for an MTT buy in and change actual rake. What they can do and are doing is changing effective rake by altering the MTT schedule to lower ROI's of winning players- which by definition increases the ROI's of losing players and can flatten payouts (bounty builders) to slow the transfer of funds from "losing players" to "winning" players. When I say slow what I mean is it takes more MTT's to move the funds and therefore effective rake has increased.
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Old 01-09-2016, 06:47 PM   #87
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BB t500 @Saturday SKO!

And +1 to minis, starting stack 5k in Bigs and better overall communication!
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Old 01-09-2016, 07:16 PM   #88
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So Matthew thanks for coming in here and telling us the rake will never become a talking point, that's fair enough,

But for these of not to be discussion then we expect a full offering (ie best online servers) the lag on Sunday is annoying and to expect any rake is annoying, again thanks for addressing the rake questions though

The minis I dont quite get your two answers, you seem to appear a lot more positive about them now you have "your head" on.

Why don't you try them out between tcoop, I'm sure then data will suggest it was troop that made these run .

In addition to the turbo offerings in relation to regular freezeout mtts , will you reveal,whether a lowering in abi will result in more / less turbo?

All rebuy change to the 11r formats think this is totally clear.

Freerolls to 3k starting stacks as well

If all bounty builders are 9 max throw some more 6 max reg speeds in the time slots ie 44 6max 55 . People obviously like them and I doubt it would stop people regging the bb s

Sunday's seem good but the lag is terrible and to expect full rake on Sundays is a joke at this moment.

Hope we see more mtts this year and not less!!!

888 will then take over you but I don't know if that's what you want?
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are sm/swu running on tcoop main sunday or replaced with the 500k/me tcoops?
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Old 01-10-2016, 08:12 AM   #90
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The Big 7.5 - 15k gtd
The Bigger 7.5 - 15k gtd

Will this ever see an increase?

And please, micromillions.
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Old 01-10-2016, 09:20 AM   #91
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mentioning common cents as a promotion..funny and sad at the same time. really dont know if amaya wants to destroy poker lately or just this stupid
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Old 01-10-2016, 10:20 AM   #92
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I'm not sure what exact promotional support did the Mini's have?

As far as I can remember, my friend, genuine recreational player have hit me on the phone that Sunday, literally screaming, "dude, have you seen, have you already jumped in, they introduce lovely mini's etc etc. He did not even realise that these tournaments award tickets. He just saw beautiful red label, deep starting stack, juicy prize pool and hoped in instead of spend another Sunday supporting his beloved reds from Liverpool FC which should lose anyways.

We have not had any annoucement in the lobby before the day of its start, and they literally smashed their guarantees by far. I have not heard even a word about it before the moment I opened the client and saw surpassed guarantee still whilst in Mini Kickoff late reg.

I doubt it was due Christmas fever, which you basically trying to imply. In reality it's not that crazy guys, which open the client everyday on December to get some All-in tickets for winnig a hand with 7-2 off, who fill the mini's up to their brows and more.

It was just everyone who were thirsty for good MTTs during the whole year.

I feel it's a huge misconception to treat recreationals as one-celled amoeba who should navigate its way to any kind of soap bubble type of promo you gonna offer, and in the same time, to make statements like "we cant turn the traffic wherever we wish". It is delusion of the same kind of nature as "we could have done more" type of communication. Sure, you could!

I mean, you may invent and offer another FIVE BILLION SUPER-DUPER AWARD first time in the history of online poker — for those who will win let's say 5 Sunday Millions in a month.
And you might throw us Mini's as an opposite — and it's your call to make.

Be aware, my aforementioned friend, well-established IT-developer, who is willing to play for heaps couple of times a week, has treated the "play 25 zoom hands and win shootou ticket" part of Cristmas Calendar promo as a joke and did not log-in into the client because of that.

This is like Christmas Eve — we are waiting for that moment not because we believe we will meet real Santa and he gets us to Narnia where we will **** Pamela Anderson or whoever, but beacause we need just a tiny opportunity to create a real holiday to ourselves by ourselves.

And Mini's were indeed that holiday. They were perfectly designed for the smart well-educated recreational player who is just willing to play god damn poker and nothing else like hunting for tickets or spinning wheels of fortune or whatever. And obv for regs. They were succeed not because of the fairy-tale type of promos all around, but because it's what the whole MTT community need.
this x 1000 stop raping us amaya and give us some sunday minis milli/reeb and WU it will not only break guarantee every week but actively bring more people to the site, if a fish/rec heres theres a $55 $40k on 888 with $8k ftw or a $11r with $20k+ ftw were is his money going? while hes there he sees mini mil and mini WU with 30k+ uptop and is snap depositing and 3 tabling them maybe some spins while he grinds DO IT
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Old 01-10-2016, 10:50 AM   #93
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Let the laggements begin!

I started with h27 and stars doesn't disappoint. Lag at the :45 mark
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any info on tlb prizes?
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Didnt they remove all TLB prizes?
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Old 01-10-2016, 11:04 AM   #96
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Seems like they adjusted starting times of majors to :01, :02 and :07. At least I havent seen that before.
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Old 01-10-2016, 11:13 AM   #97
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Seems like they adjusted starting times of majors to :01, :02 and :07. At least I havent seen that before.
Yea, that's new. Still not great help though
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Old 01-10-2016, 11:21 AM   #98
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this is great. but not because the lag but this way we can finally use our full 5min break and not pop up tourneys while others still on 1 min break. this should be permanent
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[ ] Thanks for the minis today
[x] Thanks for the lag today
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Old 01-10-2016, 01:44 PM   #100
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did i miss the post where Luke replied regarding the earlier antes @SWU and SM ? couldn't find it but i kinda fast scrolled
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