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08-01-2017 , 11:53 PM
The Big $27 is paying 18.3% right now with a $42.24 payout, when did we go back to these horrible pay tables?
And why only some events?
And why would it ever be in a daily flag ship event like a Big?
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08-02-2017 , 04:48 AM
so i guess the Main Event will be no re-entry?
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08-02-2017 , 07:52 AM
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so i guess the Main Event will be no re-entry?
It's definitely going to be re-entry IMO. It's been re-entry last year, and this year's SCOOP MEs were also 1 re-entry.
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08-02-2017 , 09:11 AM
My only request is to have lots of satellites at every level so that micro-low stakes grinders can take a shot at the bigger buy-ins. Perhaps a special SpinNGo WCOOP ticket series?
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08-02-2017 , 12:48 PM
Seeing how the VIP program has changed for the worse; thus players will be even less incentivised to play now seems like the perfect time to merge some of the dwindling SNGS into more continuous and successful ones.

The main thing being merging the $8 180mans with the $7 $45mans into On Demands. As it is the games seem to be dying down from as early as 10pm-11pm when it used to be around 2am-3am. If more games are running around the clock then players will be actively entering more games, whether they are STTs, SNGS or MTTs
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08-02-2017 , 01:07 PM
I mentioned this earlier (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=7921) but I think the new pko system makes it more complicated when you're heads-up and you have very little idea on how much you're gonna win the total bounty if you finish 1st.

So let's say I'm heads up in a ft and I got $50 bounty on me (according to new pko display) and my opponent got $100 bounty and if I knock him out and finish 1st, how much bounties do I get in total? Of course, I would know how much I won once the tourney finishes but if I wanna know the calculation how its done, that calculation to me looks a little bit complicated so a clear info or a message like "If you finish 1st, you get $300 as bounty money + $500 regular prizepool" somewhere on the table would be really nice. Again I have to say this, you end up winning a lot more when you finish 1st than what is shown on the lobby/bounty plate, so maybe mentioning avg first prize including the total bounties anywhere in the lobby would also be a very useful info.
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08-02-2017 , 01:10 PM
And I don't get why are we being so over critical for phased horse idea? Its actually a great idea, prizepool would be bigger because of this and we'll get to play more of these games. It's not like they are gonna be replacing those standalone events (razz,stud,hi/lo etc), I'm sure there will be separate championship events for most of these variants, so its actually a win-win idea.
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08-02-2017 , 04:36 PM
PSKO satellites, are you mother****ing kidding ?
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08-02-2017 , 05:05 PM
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PSKO satellites, are you mother****ing kidding ?
Not a huge fan of all the psko, but in sattelites they're the far superior format imo. What's up with your useless unconstructive post?
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08-02-2017 , 05:11 PM
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Not a huge fan of all the psko, but in sattelites they're the far superior format imo. What's up with your useless unconstructive post?
Like the satellite actually being PSKO for some silly reason? I really don't get it-
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08-02-2017 , 05:17 PM
It solves most collusion problems, which are huge in satellites. You lose money by softplaying in psko. Big stacks will be more inclined to do their duty of wiping out shorties resolving some of the endless stalling action, instead of being in the weird spot where it literally doesn't matter what they do for their own equity while deciding the fate of others. If anything should be psko, it should be satellites.
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08-03-2017 , 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Soepgroente
It solves most collusion problems, which are huge in satellites. You lose money by softplaying in psko. Big stacks will be more inclined to do their duty of wiping out shorties resolving some of the endless stalling action, instead of being in the weird spot where it literally doesn't matter what they do for their own equity while deciding the fate of others. If anything should be psko, it should be satellites.
Yep 100% agree with this one .
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08-03-2017 , 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Soepgroente
It solves most collusion problems, which are huge in satellites. You lose money by softplaying in psko. Big stacks will be more inclined to do their duty of wiping out shorties resolving some of the endless stalling action, instead of being in the weird spot where it literally doesn't matter what they do for their own equity while deciding the fate of others. If anything should be psko, it should be satellites.
+1. Main problem just is to get large enough prizepool in form of tickets to get them interesting. Maybe 25% PSKO money - 75% tickets would work.
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08-03-2017 , 09:05 PM
Never considered this before but makes perfect sense and 75-25 split sounds perfect
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08-03-2017 , 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by satellite84
The Big $27 is paying 18.3% right now with a $42.24 payout, when did we go back to these horrible pay tables?
And why only some events?
And why would it ever be in a daily flag ship event like a Big?
This... We all know the answer, but the fact they are just adjusting them all slowly back on the sly leaves a bad taste
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08-04-2017 , 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Soepgroente
It solves most collusion problems, which are huge in satellites. You lose money by softplaying in psko. Big stacks will be more inclined to do their duty of wiping out shorties resolving some of the endless stalling action, instead of being in the weird spot where it literally doesn't matter what they do for their own equity while deciding the fate of others. If anything should be psko, it should be satellites.
looks like a very good idea, never thought about it

bounties would be paid in T$?
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08-04-2017 , 10:54 AM
In regular old dollars, the pko part would be separate from the satellite part.
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08-04-2017 , 05:28 PM
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In regular old dollars, the pko part would be separate from the satellite part.
A PKO should be played until the end always to make some sense.

Also i see many spots where colluding would be way much easier in a PKO tbh.
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08-04-2017 , 09:54 PM
Luke, when can we see the WCOOP and Mini-WCOOP schedule?
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08-04-2017 , 10:04 PM
i guess we can see the schedule when it is in the client
because that is how stars (amaya) or stars group or whatever they call it nowadays^^ does things
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08-05-2017 , 02:32 AM
Luke, do you have an estimate of when you'll publish WCOOP in the client?
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08-05-2017 , 02:37 AM
Hey Luke,

two questions / suggestions:

1. As someone mentioned month ago, can you please speak to your tech departement about the window that pops up when busted a satellite over any other table that is open at that time. Can you please remove this? Or at least let it pop up in the table that was just busted? This is extremely annoying for everyone who plays more than one table.

2. Is there going to be a Red Spade Open any time again? Or is this gone for good?

Thanks for answering.
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08-05-2017 , 04:09 PM
do we have at least start and finish dates for wcoop? super important info to plan my year
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08-05-2017 , 04:22 PM
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WCOOP 2017 will run from September 3rd-26th.
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Lastly, the dates are still September 3rd-26th. The Main Event will run on September 24th with a $5,200 buy-in and $10M guaranteed.
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08-05-2017 , 05:58 PM


why remove the info of how much is bounty and hjow much is rake from this?
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