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07-05-2017 , 02:11 AM
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Originally Posted by blakkman08
just gonna throw this out there.


RIP POKERSTARS
hehe, now that Bryan is in charge at Party there's actually hope for this.
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07-05-2017 , 03:28 AM
Maybe this will be their wakeup call? Would be nice to once again have real competition between the 2 top sites.
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07-05-2017 , 03:51 AM
call me sceptical but I doubt it.
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07-05-2017 , 05:14 AM
I doubt it aswell. The wakeup call will be when party has more traffic than stars.
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07-05-2017 , 03:41 PM
Doubt they even care. Amaya's strategy has always been to milk the poker audience for all it was worth through rake increases and low edge formats while converting as many of them as possible to casino and sports betting.

I've no doubt the long term plan for the Stars platform is to turn it primarily into a casino with poker as a small side thing.
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07-05-2017 , 05:46 PM
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07-05-2017 , 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by blakkman08
just gonna throw this out there.


RIP POKERSTARS


#inbryanwetrust
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07-05-2017 , 06:09 PM
Well, after Patrick Leonard joined the Party, it was clear that an acquisition of a competent Stars executive like Bryan was bound to happen, congrats to the Party players

As for Amaya's plans, it's hard to hook a poker player on casino games and much easier to lead him/her into a lower edge, higher variance game that is still a kind of 'multiplayer poker' because it's more satisfying for a player when s/he has at least some control over the outcome (at least two buttons) and can be proud of 'making correct decisions' and 'outplaying others', as opposed to the blind luck of the casino.

Fortunately, Amaya isn't promoting its casino games to poker players as aggressively as 888. Stars Rewards are going to give me bonuses primarily in the games that I do play. 888 Club scratchcards tend to contain bonuses in the games that I hardly play (i.e. casino and sportsbetting), and also, a club level normally can't be completed by only playing poker on one day - it's necessary to either bet in the casino or on sports or to wait for a few days in order to complete a level.

I doubt that Amaya is going to make poker a 'small side thing'. The casino and sports verticals will grow, but the poker arm will still be significant too.

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To amend my post about All In or Fold (I was sleep-deprived when writing it):

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Originally Posted by coon74
And then I realised how long the pre-bubble stalling (2 places away from the money) will be in this format if the money zone is bigger than 7 players <...>

Therefore, I'd rather see real-money All In or Fold tournaments released as MT SNGs with fewer places paid than the table size minus one (and not higher rake than 10-11%, of course), e.g. full ring 18-54-player on-demand with re-entries (paying 7 places if there are 54 entries), than as scheduled MTTs, assuming that their release is inevitable.
(If there are 10 players left in the tourney at 2 tables and there are 8 places paid, people will also be waiting to see what happens at the other table, whereas it looks like the optimal shoving ranges are narrower than 10% for the short stacks and 30% for the big ones on the pre-bubble according to HoldemResources.) 18-90-entry on-demands wouldn't be terrible either, as the pre-bubble would be happening at 2 tables at most, not 3, but the higher ($10+) stakes SNGs wouldn't gather that many entries anyway.
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07-06-2017 , 06:40 AM
Hey pokerstars, where can I find out more information about Pokerstars Championship Barcelona? (Structure/times) etc

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07-06-2017 , 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by mecantplay
When Micromillions starts?
And when we can see initial schedule for WCOOP and dates?
+1

Luke, can you comment on this? I am waiting for the MicroMillions but still can't see the schedule.
Also, I would like to know, are you planning to make Mini-WCOOP again? As I remember, the Mini-WCOOP was a very good and very popular series, so please run it again.
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07-07-2017 , 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by milennial
Thanks for reply. It's fluid indeed and the variety is pleasing. I just thought it would be more convenient if the satellites providing seats are deployed well in advance to allow for planning?

An additional question would be - Are there plans for more sats offering full packages apart from the Ultra which runs this Sunday? And what is the last week that sats for Barca will run in general?
I asked our live events satellites coordinator and he says that time slots and structures generally stay the same week to week but guarantees and other details change. This Sunday's satellite will guarantee 15 seats + expenses (€5,300 + €700). Satellites will run until at least August 13th. We’ve run out of hotel rooms for the main event, so there will not be any more full package qualifiers.

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Originally Posted by michl
Thanks - will note this for main schedule changes.

+1 for the daily mixed games to come back.
I dont think i ever saw them ever overlay, the only change that was needed from the old schedule was to move the badugi to a later start time.

The mixed games schedule is pretty poor right now nothing for mid stakes players to play. So many good tournaments were removed.
The limit holdem hypers, the pko horse, the turbo badugi the early morning 22 stud 8 and o8, the hyper turbo stud, the ko razz and a bunch of 5card draw tourneys.

I played 4780 tournaments in 2015 and went down to 950 last year which was mainly at the start on theyear before the new schedule came out
Thanks for providing some detailed feedback.

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Originally Posted by buffyslayer1
Can't you just make Fridays special a vanilla freezeout. Maybe make it a 8 max so there is a little variety or something.

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This doesn't seem too exciting! How would you brand it?

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Originally Posted by Killerscore9
hey luke, good to see micromillions back on the program again this year... any chance of going back to the leaderboard prizes instead of last man standing like last year? ( which most players prefer) and I hope your also going back to tourney starts every 4 hours or so to cater for players from all nationalities? as is great to be able to play a big tourney series at 4pm in the arvo in the southern hemisphere.. with seeing the main is event 122 or something this does look promising for that case...
This year will have an Invitational Freeroll which has a $25K prize pool + some Team Pro Online bounties. As you've noticed, there's quite a few more Events, although they're not going to run on a 24 hour clock. We have tournaments in the schedule at 21:00 ET and 04:00 ET. The schedule itself will have a lot of variety and I think micro-stakes players will really enjoy it!

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Originally Posted by Bizeeey
+1 for more off-peak <$11 tourneys, preferably reg speed freezeouts
Thanks for the feedback.

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Originally Posted by ac3play
This.

An 8max vanilla reg speed would be amazing, even if it will get a smaller guarantee because it's a Friday. There are plenty of turbos in the schedule, make Friday majors playable pls.

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If it would have a smaller guarantee than Fast Friday and not much flavour, players will quickly lose interest. There needs to be a hook!

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Originally Posted by clapclap
Why not keep the fast friday zoom, just change it to 6max?
I think, the zoom format is associated and liked much more with 6-max than 9-max. Look at the popularity of 6max and 9max zoom cash games. We would probably see similar effets, if you changed the fast friday (and the rest of the zoom mtts in the schedule too).
Also look at the scoop events, the 6max zoom tournies crushed their guaranties almost as much as the 3max pkos.

One more thing: Similar to bubble rush mtts, zoom mtts should get increased lvl times once zoom dealing ends. With the zoom format the avg stack stays pretty deep, but once it ends, avg stack decreases a ton, making it often not a great experience, when you get deep itm in these.

Once you fix/change these things, I think, there would be much more demand for zoom mtts.
Thanks for the feedback. I agree with the point about level times in Zoom. Five minute levels in Zoom are not equivalent to non-Zoom and our schedule should reflect as much. We'll update this with the next round of main schedule changes.

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Originally Posted by blakkman08
It is a bad one for regs. Which in turn makes it a good format. Regs struggle to multitable them which Obv shouldn't be any of Stars concern. Still doesn't mean 9max vanilla zoom is the best way to go

(IT ISNT)
So another +1 for 6-max? Do you genuinely think more players would join if it was 6-max versus 9-max?

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Originally Posted by mecantplay
When Micromillions starts?
And when we can see initial schedule for WCOOP and dates?
MicroMillions will be announced soon. We don't yet have confirmed dates for WCOOP.

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Originally Posted by Transcendence
Pls bring the old leaderboard back. It provided an extra added incentive to grind and climb it. Not sure why it was removed other than for financial reasons. Was definitely a popular feature.
The traditional TLB is extremely unlikely to return. That said, there is a possibility of some other initiatives in the future.

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Originally Posted by 72winner
Is there a way to get $215 tickets via satellite where it's not tournament-specific?

I guess you can do it via steps but steps are dead/no games.

Just want to figure out how to get $215 tickets without immediately being entered into a specific tournament.
For now, your best bet would be to play Sunday Million satellites that end before the target event starts. You can then unregister to receive T$.

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Originally Posted by vvtinu
Has the "Featured" option disappeared from the MTT filters? Can't seem to find it anymore
I believe this is a bug. It has been raised with the developers. Thanks!

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Originally Posted by ZFSB
imo there should be tourneys to win $11,$22or$27, $55,$109, $215 etc tix
Many of our players find satellites via the target tournament's lobby. We don't have the ability to surface ticket tournaments that would appear in every eligible lobby. For instance, we can't create a generic ticket satellite that would show up in the lobby of all $215 tournaments. I do think we should explore this further, though!

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Originally Posted by ac3play
How about a Mini Sunday Rebuy? Would fire a lot of 3fiddy bullets in that
Thanks for the feedback - I dig this one.

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Originally Posted by Joroy70
Why am I not able to reg the Stars 50pckg GTD for BCN?
Likely because you already won a package. This tournament in particular was restricted to players who had not yet qualified because we anticipated that the tournament would overlay and we also gave away entries to a large amount of players. Although this isn't policy for all of our satellites, it is likely that it will happen again in the future. If there is a permanent policy change, I'll communicate it here.

FYI, this was tested during the recent Half Price Sunday Million promotion. The $11 on-demand satellite was restricted to non-qualifiers to test the functionality.

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Originally Posted by Soepgroente
How is it still a payjump at 17 instead of 18... and at 89 instead of 90... it's just so ugly and illogical. When you reach the next final X tables you get a payjump, not one bustout later...
Ugly is subjective and I understand, but why illogical? In a nine-handed tournament, a pay jump at 18 means there's tables with six, six, and seven players. At 17 it means there's two even tables of nine.

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Originally Posted by zoogenhiem
Luke, have you given any reasoning for your table minus 1 payjumps? I haven't considered the problem closely enough to say it sucks or is great but surely you have a reason to buck the traditional payout structure. Sorry if you already answered this in an earlier post, but many of us would appreciate it if you gave your justification for this structure.
I'm not sure if I mentioned it in a previous post either, but happy to discuss it! The short of it is that it ensures that all tables have the same number of players before a pay jump. It isn't rolled out to all tournaments nor is there any active plan to do so.

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Originally Posted by Re8uZ
ZOOM 6max variable lvl(3min/4min/5min) 3k starting stack starting from from 25/50, make it PKO so u kill collusions and soft playing/dumping chips

for ex.
- 80$+40$+2$(122$) dead line PKO ZOOM 6max satellite for Thursday Thrill 9+ tickets guaranteed

- 100$+50$+9$(152$) last chance KO ZOOM 6max satellite for Thursday Thrill 9+ tickets guaranteed
Zoom tournaments require a large number of players at the start to ensure that they stay Zoom. I do not think players would respond well to this and we'd be left with a significant number of tournaments cancelling.

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Originally Posted by GTXR1
That sounds like a major overhaul. Wouldn't it be easier to make little tweaks on the fly when enough feedback is gained on a specific matter?

A major change might create a whole new set of issues which then don't get attention in a timely manner. (the poor mixed games offerings since last update comes to mind)
Thanks for bringing this up. I don't foresee an overhaul on the horizon, rather we'll iterate on the current offering. There isn't a solid plan in place yet since MicroMillions and WCOOP are the main focuses right now, but if I had to guess, we'll start with the Majors.

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Originally Posted by GTXR1
Tuesday and Thursday $320 Omania High Rollers are missing their $55 "Mini" pendant.
They've been removed for the summer. They were either cancelling or players were forcing overlay from the start. They'll return around WCOOP time.

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Originally Posted by liamm45
Hey pokerstars, where can I find out more information about Pokerstars Championship Barcelona? (Structure/times) etc

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http://www.pokerstarslive.com/champi...nts/barcelona/

If you click on the schedule, you can click each tournament to see its structure.

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Originally Posted by Snake-glory
+1

Luke, can you comment on this? I am waiting for the MicroMillions but still can't see the schedule.
Also, I would like to know, are you planning to make Mini-WCOOP again? As I remember, the Mini-WCOOP was a very good and very popular series, so please run it again.
MicroMillions will be in the client Monday afternoon UK time.

Mini-WCOOP did indeed add an exciting dynamic to WCOOP by engaging a large number of players who wouldn't normally be a part of the WCOOP experience. We are going to experiment with this again in WCOOP 2017. That experiment won't be the same Mini-WCOOP as last year, but will still have the goal of opening WCOOP to a broader audience.
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07-07-2017 , 07:55 AM
I think the basis of the anti zoom Friday complaints is that it can't be part of a larger session and as such it pushes out all the regulars who like to have other tables at peak time which quite frankly is a shtton of players. This is why we are asking for a 3max zoom pko after or at sonic time because then we actually have space and love the format. Make Friday majors run much later and make them 3max zoom pko and it'll explode. This way you can actually also add a Friday freezeout (hello branding) at the traditional time and everybody would be happy
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07-07-2017 , 08:06 AM
why does every tournament have to be a gimmick or have a hook. To me having a vanilla 8 max freezeout is exciting because there are not enough in a schedule dominated by psko, turbo, hyper formats

There are not any 8 max tournaments in the schedule and it did quite well in scoop.



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07-07-2017 , 08:09 AM
Like blakks idea of pushing zoom back if it stays and having a normal 7pm major.
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07-07-2017 , 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Big_Mick00
Like blakks idea of pushing zoom back if it stays and having a normal 7pm major.
+1
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07-07-2017 , 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by blakkman08
I think the basis of the anti zoom Friday complaints is that it can't be part of a larger session and as such it pushes out all the regulars who like to have other tables at peak time which quite frankly is a shtton of players. This is why we are asking for a 3max zoom pko after or at sonic time because then we actually have space and love the format. Make Friday majors run much later and make them 3max zoom pko and it'll explode. This way you can actually also add a Friday freezeout (hello branding) at the traditional time and everybody would be happy


this so bad
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07-07-2017 , 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by buffyslayer1
why does every tournament have to be a gimmick or have a hook. To me having a vanilla 8 max freezeout is exciting because there are not enough in a schedule dominated by psko, turbo, hyper formats

There are not any 8 max tournaments in the schedule and it did quite well in scoop.



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+1
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07-07-2017 , 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by buffyslayer1
There are not any 8 max tournaments in the schedule and it did quite well in scoop.
On a side note, why is there a need to vary the table sizes, why not just turn all the 6-9-max MTTs into 7-max (so that there are equal numbers of players at each table on the bubble of the last 2 tables as well as the FT bubble because 2*7+1 = 3*5 and 7+1 = 2*4)?
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07-07-2017 , 10:06 AM
Can we have at least one more 215$ ULTRA sat to Barca 50 package gtd?
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07-07-2017 , 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by buffyslayer1
why does every tournament have to be a gimmick or have a hook. To me having a vanilla 8 max freezeout is exciting because there are not enough in a schedule dominated by psko, turbo, hyper formats

There are not any 8 max tournaments in the schedule and it did quite well in scoop.



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yeah this, 8 max is great!
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07-07-2017 , 10:26 AM
[QUOTE=buffyslayer1;52494873]why does every tournament have to be a gimmick or have a hook. To me having a vanilla 8 max freezeout is exciting because there are not enough in a schedule dominated by psko, turbo, hyper formats

There are not any 8 max tournaments in the schedule and it did quite well in scoop.



luke says this isnt exciting how would you brand it lmfao


Brand it like this luke PROPER POKER
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07-07-2017 , 10:30 AM
Friday 8-max

Friday Freeze

Friday fourmax

Friday five max

Friday anything but idiot zoom unless it's later and shorter handed and actually a fun one
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07-07-2017 , 10:40 AM
There's already an 8-max $8.88 Saturday Spider (it's hyper, though), and the names for 8-max tourneys could revolve around spiders / octopuses / snowmen / pretzels / Möbius strips (just kidding) / the infinity sign / whichever of the many things associated with 8.
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07-07-2017 , 11:19 AM
THE QUADILLA $44 4 max 40k zoom turbo last major on a sunday
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07-07-2017 , 12:04 PM
God yes plz
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