why if i transfer i can't withdraw? i transfer all the time (which helps fill the seats in mtts), so to make it harder for me to transfer means net loss to ughmayo no?(i.e. instead of transfer we withdraw)

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we don't have a say on this change which affects how we are allowed to
handle our own money?

i guess the rule could make sense to stop money laundering and would make sense legally. huge inconvenience to the staking community and another addition that will hurt the longevity of the community imo.

Stars have been trying to remove staking groups for ages now. My backers had their transfer abilities all but revoked. Now forced to use skrill/NT

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Perhaps keeping the bare minimum bankroll on Stars is a good way to be sure you don't get stuck with a roll you can't cashout?

I can't read mb.

has anybody noticed (i'm pretty sure you have) that the rake for standard ko tourneys has risen?
for example, mini sat KO was 16.37+15+1.63, now it's 15+15+3
ridiculous

YES, I WAS SAYING EXACTLY THAT COUPLE PAGES AGO. COMPLETLY IGNORED BY LUKERAKER ROFL.

fkn joke thread, joke site and joke Luke

so insanely tilting

Same.

The fact is, Luke has admitted on here that the tournies resumed "unexpectedly", as was the word used, only to be rolled over 20 min later again.

We are sick of paying for PS errors. They had huge problems, so be it. But they even manage to screw the manual pausing of the tournies, meaning some of them resumed. It's not at all "natural play" when you got only 4 players playing out of 9 on the table, and that you get coolered and then 1 hand after in my case, the tournies stop again.

Can't believe this ****e, they make a mistake, not once but twice, they assume for those and pay back players who lost funds in tournies which they should not have resumed in the first place. Its becoming farcical, "natural play" has nothing to do with it. All tournies have to be treated the same, period.

Also, it was impossible to know that it was a mistake that they started again, since there was 0, litteraly 0 communication during all that period. Nothing, none. If it was known that it was a mistake of course you play completely differently.

They can't resume, without willing to do so, some tournies, then you bust because of numerous circumstances, including the fact that half of the players are sitting out and that you play more aggro, then you get coolered and get nothing whereas if they had not made the mistake of starting those again we would have had our compensation back and fair.

It's pathetic.

I am also waiting for a response for 9 days now, they now said they forwarded my mail to the "relevant" service yesterday but nothing, nothing yet.

Sick of it.

Believe me or don't i rly don't care about ur opinion but had I run up a stack during this time and only got paid what my stack was worth at the start of the problems I wouldn't be complaining one bit as it would be fair to all players involved including recs that as is have had a terrible experience as hopefully go play on 888 or party as a consequence

This site has been a complete Fkn shtshow lately

Could not agree more. Also it would mean :

- PS treats all tournies equally, hence all players ;
- We don't pay for the mistake PS made in resuming manually, unexpectedly, those tourneys.

What would be more logical ? Nothing.

I received a compensation within 24 hours of my e-mail. I pointed out a mistake they made with 1 tourney, and within 30 minutes I received an additional refund. So definitely worth your time to contact Stars if you didn't receive a refund automatically and check if Stars' calculations are correct!

After ignoring my emails for a week Stars handled it very reasonable after all.

People crying, flaming but still playing on PS.
You guys should speak constructive or you can choose another site and play there. Really, I don't understand what is this whining for? Maybe you are trolls?
Every time PS adds something new and people starting to cry like a little kids. "The new knockout system is bad, we can't withdraw now, no more staking!"
Why on earth PS should care about stakers? Really, why? It's your problem how to do this!
You guys said that it's pointless to make a constructive dialog about MTT changes because Luke don't listen, but if we all would make a posts full of constructive feedback I am pretty sure Luke can make changes!

haha

Same happened to me,I was on 44$ Marathon FT,was in bed when skype started ringing,I logged in,and obv,busted 6th, 2-3 hands later,and they canceled tourney few mins later..
I havent missed a signle hand,tbh...

easy solution guys to play through the $...put 50% on red and 50% on black...hope 0 doesnt come.

Because the stakees play poker on their site and pay rake?

Was that a trick question?

My mind is 2/10 here, but If I get send 100$ to play a 215$ MTT, how on earth should it be a problem to withdraw?

but yeah, they are effectively raking our deposits and transfers now.

I'm a pretty big Stars hater these days but I must say the handling of the disconnection refunds and the formalising of the playthrough before cashing out requirements are both better than expected.

I think all tournies that have been paused for over an hour ought to be cancelled and settled according to stacks at the time of the initial outage (as opposed to the time of the pausing), but the ruling offered here is better than recent examples (the time of eventual cancellation) and I particularly like the idea of recreationals not being required to email in an equity refund request. So overall pretty positive imo.

The thing is I'm wondering wether, if a rec sat out for 10 hands, he will get his adjusted refund without sending an e-mail. It took me 4 e-mails over 10 days to get my $ (actually blinded out in the restart period), and most people are like oh hey some extra $ on my account it's all good while your refund is probably not adjusted.
That said once I sent my last e-mail they fixed it pretty quick. Just seems so 'lucky' that right after I sent the e-mail Stars 'finished calculations of tourney xx'.

Oh and I believe they actually did it from the moment of the outage (prolly the same moment as the freezing), nobody was sitting out or disconnect in the last hand before the freezing (I know cuz i lost pretty much my whole stack the hand before the freeze so have seen the hh), and I got my refund based on that stack.

Something that has to happen pretty damned quick is they need to make an announcement across all tables within a maximum of 5 minutes to let customers know:

1. What is happening
2. What to expect

To have people wait over an hour with no information is completely unacceptable.

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Something like "This tournament will be cancelled. You can safely close the table" would be nice. Because a lot of people don't know what to do in this case.

If they can't communicate for whatever reason then it should be written into the terms and conditions that any tournaments paused for more than say 15 minutes are automatically cancelled. This way people aren't stuck sitting for hours not knowing wtf is going on.