lol

Absolutely wrong.

It has been stated that the resume of play following the first pause was unexpected, meaning unintentionnal, which is confirmed by the fact play was suspended again 20 min later.

As a player, when play resumes, you can take it for granted that they have fixed their **** and that they decided the tourney can restart and will finish. If I had known it was a mistake to "unsuspend", I would have played completely differently, and just kept my stack. But had no way of knowing since I was playing two tournaments and both of them started again.

I busted ONE hand before it was suspended again in the Sunday Grand, which means a loss of 2500$. If they had not made the mistake of starting the tourney again, I would have been paid.

Also, in such cases you must have some kind of consistency. There is no reason that certain tournaments are stopped, for ICM calculation purposes, at one time, while others are stopped 20 min later.

Stopping the count right before the first suspension would mean all tournies would be treated equally and stopped at the same time. This simply makes sense.

I can only repeat it as a look back on the glory days, i miss the old scedule with:

-5$ cubed (+ sunday edition)
-8,80$ cubed (+ sunday edition)
-22$ cubed wich was a huge hit for several years (+ sunday edition)
-11 rebuy 20 K guaranteed primetime
-13,50$ knockout
-1$ unlimited rebuy for like 40$K guaranteed.

And the "bigger" and "hotter" tournaments on sundays, wich made for some extra excitements for sure.

And alot less knockouts,turbo knockouts, progressive knockouts, bounty builders and all the new garbage that have ruined the schedule. Ive havent played on Stars for about 1 year now, i play only live now these days- and the changes Stars have made have alot to do with that decision for me.

This is just a complaint from one of the many (ex) customers, that used to love the excitement when firing up a grind in the primetime but is now gone. Sad to look back on how good it was, and what the reality have become. Unbelieveable that a company with the history of Pokerstars can manage to put so many roadblocks in their own way with purpose.

Yeah I look at the euro evening micro schedule and back in the day it was like // exact numbers btw, wrote em down 2 years ago
2$ - 10k GTD
1$R 3x Turbo - 60K
8.8$R - 30K
3.3$R - 20k

now it's
(Hot) 2$ - 6K
1$R Splash - 5K
7$R - 3K
and of course 1.5$+1.5$ BountyBuilder with 15k gtd

this post made me sad

This is precisely why I stopped getting excited about doing the daily MTT grind on Stars. The excitement just isn't there any more. I used to play 10 or 12 MTTs a day at this time and it's now down to 1 or 2 a day with most of my volume on other sites. We yelled and screamed about the changes but Stars ignored us so they really don't care. They even killed the 3 or 4 MTTs I used to play every day on FTP. We complained about those too but were ignored.

I think Stars is doing fine though. They don't need people like me obviously. I see thousands of people are playing the PSKOs every day. Those are the MTTs that Stars wants to push I guess.

Don't forget about the 3r 65K GTD which was the softest tournament ever

can ps have a retro week??

really miss this one.. used to always crush the guarantee too

remember it being in the 80k range but that was before black friday

Really saddening post indeed. The killing of both 1R 3x turbo's, the late one was good too, tourneys like big 8, random 8$ 6-max turbos and such, 11 rebuys, 3+r regspeed and hour later 3+r 2x turbo, a lot of logic tournament follow up (big 8 and 5, hot 16 and 11), in general there was a lot more on offer in the schedule of various buy ins. Miss the days
Not everything is all bad, the daily 'majors' are good but I miss the logic in the overall (24h) schedule instead of 4 random 6 hour schedules put together. And really life is not a progressive knockout. Its too much. And stars wtf still didnt receive my refund for the cooldown

me too..

sorry for offtopic,just to say that most likely your .ini config file is corrupted-reinstall the software and it should be all right.Also there is a thread for PS software where bugs are reviewed and there you can find temp solutions until they roll a new monthly update

Just to not be a complete offtopic,I can share with you my frustration of the BBuilder/KO tourneys and all the WTB and other rec-oriented tournaments.
Its like we're not playing straightforward poker.
Its fun to have them but not at this huge volume.
But I guess the fun for recs is above anything in business now,not only in PS but in other sites too.That is the future I suppose.

Grunch. Are the payout structures online the same as live? It's really frustrating, say, I make it really deep in some $5.50 tourney, so less than 100 players when I bust out of probably 3,000+ and I get some crap amount like $13. Is the ratio the same for live?

More people getting money,less money at the FT and deep runs are not worth much.
Change to make more people get in the money and more frequently-resulting in 1.5x mincash,much worse for deep payouts tourneys-there is 11$ turbo deep payouts where you mincash for 12$

Emailed pokerstars on Monday about equity loss compensation on last sundays cancelled tourney where we were 10 left, received standard reply saying forwarded to responsible department, haven't heard anything yet, fired 2nd email yesterday didn't even get auto reply. Anyone got additional compensation?

I got the same silent treatment to my three emails. Good job amaya

yeah I didn't even bother this time, lmk if you guys get anything

Same here, 3 emails send after receiving insufficient compensation after the umptieth Stars outage (the previous times the compensation I received was fair and according to their policy). On the 1st I got a nonsensical standard response. No response to the later emails for 5 days now. I tried mailing Stars support regarding an unrelated question, got a reply within hours. So apparently Stars now has a support policy to ignore question regarding compensation after their own ****-ups. Very shady imo.

Did some math of the financial implications of resuming the tournaments for ~30 minutes while only 10% of the players was able to connect: they payed over 100K too much to the few players that were able to blind the other players off that should have been payed to the disconnected players. So i can see why they're ignoring this. But if they don't make this right quickly I'll never play on their site again.

He's right though. You got a fair chance and lost. If the tournament would have been played out like you assumed you wouldn't have been any better off. According to your logic they should refund everyone that entered any tourney that has been cancelled later, even if they busted in the 1st hand. Like you, everyone would would have played completely differently and just kept their stack if they knew of the cancellation about to happen. But they did risk their chips because they had no way of knowing just like you didn't. Obviously it doesn't work like that: only the people that didn't got the fair chance they payed for are entitled.

I mailed Stars support on monday, got a response, replied, no reaction, 2 days later said wtf guys, and got this response, so just be patient ppz.

support@pokerstars.eu
Jun 7 (3 days ago)

to me
Hello Michael.,

Thank you for contacting us here at Stars Support.

There was an email sent to you, we are sorry if it did not provide enough detail for you. We are working on the credits.

We are aware that for a certain period of time, some of our tournaments were resumed and because of this not all players were able to defend their stack during that time. As we have done in previous instances when we experienced similar technical issues, we are working hard to determine each player’s equity at the time the tournaments were resumed until the moment they were rolled forward. If that amount is more than the credit received when the tournament was rolled forward, we will make an additional credit equal to the difference.

As soon as we finish gathering and validating the data, we will proactively make the credits. No action is required on your part.

Unfortunately there is no timeline that be given out, since so many people was hit by this.

For further questions, do not hesitate to contact us.

Okay am I going crazy here or is Pokerstars completely gyping us out of another 12.5% rake with this new Progressive KO Bounty display?

In the old display if you entered a $22 bounty builder (10+10+2) you'd have a $10 bounty and whoever knocks you out keeps 50% and gets 50% added to theirs. So a first hand KO would leave hero now with $5 in his pocket and $15 on his head, simple, lovely, effective.


In the new display though, the same scenario would show $5 over all of these players heads (what you win if you KO them), which would be fine if the other $5 of the total $10 contributed to the bounty prize pool were progressed onto the Hero's head... but thats not the case 6/7 days of the week. On Saturdays they do it right, but for the rest of the week you would only get 50% of the $5 added to your bounty, which leaves 25% of our buy in unaccounted for.

To illustrate:
On a Saturday $22 PKO:
Buy in: 10+10+2
Eliminating player gets: $5 for eliminating + $5 added to their bounty

On a not Saturday $22 PKO:
Buy in: 10+10+2
Eliminating player gets: $5 for eliminating + $2.50 added to their bounty


...wtf is that?

so really if i'm playing a PKO on any day other than a Saturday 25% of the bounty prize pool is not being progressed?

They have changed the PKO system! If someone has $10 bounty on their head, that's what you get from knocking him out.

There is a lot of posts about new system. Try to read last 10 pages and you will find the answers.

Pretty lame that the barca sats show as being 'X Packages' guaranteed in the main lobby, but you open the tournament lobby it says 'X seats guaranteed'. Its just misleading. I regged a 530 last week assuming I could qualify for a stay in the Arts but this was not the case.

Can you make an option between the new and old PKO notation in settings? I prefer the old one.