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05-15-2017 , 08:01 PM
'How can we piss off everyone even more ?'

'I know, lets restart a couple of mtts during break and waste everyones timebanks'

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05-15-2017 , 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by N64Guru
So just to be clear, with the "Rolled Forward (Not in the money)" settlement system, the people that late registered the $2k 4-Max after the connection drop just directly took several hundred dollars apiece without playing a hand, directly from those that had already been playing? Does that seem reasonable?
its absolutely ridic!
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05-15-2017 , 08:03 PM
what is the result of the $25.00 spin and go that hit the jackpot for the 10,300 scoop event?
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05-15-2017 , 08:08 PM
DDoSed again? Wtf? I had very soft table in deep stacks and a stack 40bb+... What a wonderful day!
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05-15-2017 , 08:12 PM
About 150 people were collectively robbed over 50k in the 2k 4max by stars allowing over 40 players to latereg after the tournament was paused and make $1200 and not play a hand.
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05-15-2017 , 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerStars Luke
Hey everyone,

The connection issues have now been resolved and we're in the process of readying the site to resume tournaments. Sadly, this outage resulted in the cancellation of many tournaments, including some SCOOP Events. Events where most players were present were resumed. Players who did not return will be refunded on a case-by-case basis. Other Events were rolled forward in accordance with our cancellation policy, which you can read here.

Events 30-H, 31-L, 31-M, 31-H, 32-M, and 32-H were resumed.

Events 32-L, 33, 34, and 35 were rolled forward.

Any players currently seated in paused tournaments can leave. These will be rolled forward.

I sincerely apologize for the inconvenience.
but keeping all the rake ofcourse
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05-15-2017 , 08:16 PM
at least refund rake of all canceled mtts
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05-15-2017 , 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerStars Luke
Hey everyone,

The connection issues have now been resolved and we're in the process of readying the site to resume tournaments. Sadly, this outage resulted in the cancellation of many tournaments, including some SCOOP Events. Events where most players were present were resumed. Players who did not return will be refunded on a case-by-case basis. Other Events were rolled forward in accordance with our cancellation policy, which you can read here.

Events 30-H, 31-L, 31-M, 31-H, 32-M, and 32-H were resumed.

Events 32-L, 33, 34, and 35 were rolled forward.

Any players currently seated in paused tournaments can leave. These will be rolled forward.

I sincerely apologize for the inconvenience.
On what basis does Stars keep the rake for cancelled events? The rake is a fee we pay to Stars for organising the tournament. If the tournament didn't take place, the service was not rendered, therefore the fee should be refunded, no? This would seem to be standard practice for literally any other business.
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05-15-2017 , 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by norfair18
About 150 people were collectively robbed over 50k in the 2k 4max by stars allowing over 40 players to latereg after the tournament was paused and make $1200 and not play a hand.
This. Stars is just facilitating straight-up theft. But they get to keep $3k those players paid in rake for their part...
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05-15-2017 , 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by N64Guru
So just to be clear, with the "Rolled Forward (Not in the money)" settlement system, the people that late registered the $2k 4-Max after the connection drop just directly took several hundred dollars apiece without playing a hand, directly from those that had already been playing? Does that seem reasonable?
i guess stars keep the rake for the guys who cheated the system and didnt play a hand?
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05-15-2017 , 08:21 PM
my playing history audit shows the rake has been refunded for each tourney
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05-15-2017 , 08:23 PM
Why you just resumed some scoop and let us wait almost 2 hours just to rollback the other tournaments?
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05-15-2017 , 08:23 PM
Oops, I double-checked and I also got rake refunded. My apologies, I foolishly relied on what I was reading here instead of checking
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05-15-2017 , 08:23 PM
It would be more fair, if you pay like you did for all players, but also continue all the tournaments. Then everyone will respect you nobody will say that you are unfair. It's PokerStars' fault, not our fault! You had a problems with the connection, not players. It's just few thousands... Is that so much for PokerStars? I don't think so. Try to do this next time. Pay like you did, but continue all MTTs! Let the people to play their game for the prizepool they have made! Someone had 40bb, 80bb, 150bb! Just imagine if you are sitting with 80bb and you are 1/12 pre final table? So unfair... So unfair...
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05-15-2017 , 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Snake-glory
It would be more fair, if you pay like you did for all players, but also continue all the tournaments. Then everyone will respect you nobody will say that you are unfair. It's PokerStars' fault, not our fault! You had a problems with the connection, not players. It's just few thousands... Is that so much for PokerStars? I don't think so. Try to do this next time. Pay like you did, but continue all MTTs! Let the people to play their game for the prizepool they have made! Someone had 40bb, 80bb, 150bb! Just imagine if you are sitting with 80bb and you are 1/12 pre final table? So unfair... So unfair...
You want them to essentially match the prize pool in every running tourney as money added? lol
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05-15-2017 , 08:36 PM
extra mtts on fri+sat please luke
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05-15-2017 , 09:07 PM
it really is a shame that the 4max wont finish. any chance of adding it on monday with a faster structure?
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05-15-2017 , 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
You want them to essentially match the prize pool in every running tourney as money added? lol
Why not? They can pay for all players who has left (gone to sleep/just closed the client/gone to work etc) and continue for all players are still waiting.
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05-15-2017 , 09:11 PM
We get you want to flatten the payouts a bit more, this is a bit of an extreme way of doing it though
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05-15-2017 , 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Snake-glory
Why not? They can pay for all players who has left (gone to sleep/just closed the client/gone to work etc) and continue for all players are still waiting.
Oh I see, you meant just refund the players who are not coming back. I thought you meant pay all players as they would in a roll forward, but then continue the tournament anyway.

I suppose something like this might be possible, maybe each player gets an option whether to get paid as in a roll forward or continue playing (if don't make a selection before the tournament restarts, they get rolled forward). They could then just reduce the prize pool by the amount paid out and re-start the tourney.

Edit: Would probably have to take the rolled forward stacks out of play & re-balance, but I don't see why this wouldn't work in theory.
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05-15-2017 , 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by norfair18
About 150 people were collectively robbed over 50k in the 2k 4max by stars allowing over 40 players to latereg after the tournament was paused and make $1200 and not play a hand.


al of them should have the $ taken off em joke
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05-15-2017 , 10:55 PM
It's hard cos there might have 1/5 of those who legit regged not realising it was paused.
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05-15-2017 , 11:22 PM
I max late reg most SCOOP events and reg'd during the pause because the late reg clock was still running down and I didn't want to get shut out. Can't speak for the others but that was my only motivation.
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05-16-2017 , 03:38 AM
Im friend of a well known hacker from russian scenario, he said Pokerstars servers are not hard to bring down, "its a 6 out of 10" difficulty in his words

Basically they can attack it anytime they want, he could not prove me that but he said this is for sure the case that hackers asked for some money to reveal the exploit (that first time it happened a month ago) but Pokerstars did not honor the deal (they thought they could handle the exploit themselfs)

No payment they attacked again, as simples as that (and they will do it on Scoop Main Event day if Pokerstars do not pay them the amount agreed)

The Scheinbergs used to manage this a lot better than Amaya does, they used to pay hackers a lot of money so the exploits found werent used

I think the Scheinbergs did not warn Amaya that when they sold the company
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05-16-2017 , 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted by blakkman08
it really is a shame that the 4max wont finish. any chance of adding it on monday with a faster structure?
Yeah, please re-deploy the 4maxes sometime in the next week!
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