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07-21-2016 , 02:42 PM
Where is the good work?

Made payouts as bad as can be on purpose to see if they could get away with it, then made a slight improvement after all the complaints to shut everyone up.The new improved payouts are still terrible.

Add rake to rebuys

Binned yearly tlb, then binned summer tlb, with no replacement promo

Flooded the schedule with timebombs that are a scam to all players

Made the majority of the schedule full of hypers with higher rake and bounty mtts where your gonna win less longterm

Made the mill re entry when it never overlayed once

Ran micromills with pathetic gtds and no promotion at all

Wrecked the satellite schedule

The good news is this guy has damaged the mtt side of things so bad that its probably impossible to bring us any new awful changes for the rest of the year.
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07-21-2016 , 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by DebtsNBooze
Pretty awesome, 150% rake, hyper turbo raked rebuys to $0.11 event
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnlgC2nXEAAehup.jpg
is this real life?
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07-21-2016 , 05:15 PM
Dream payout for many 2p2 regs



11k buy in tourney

Rebuys and re-entries are the same except rebuys/re-entries don't get raked in Indian sites

15 places paid for 163 total entrants

Thats like paying ~9%

Min cash almost 3 times

And the games are super soft
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07-21-2016 , 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by anuj22
Dream payout for many 2p2 regs



11k buy in tourney

Rebuys and re-entries are the same except rebuys/re-entries don't get raked in Indian sites

15 places paid for 163 total entrants

Thats like paying ~9%

Min cash almost 3 times

And the games are super soft
can you pm me some indian sites pls?
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07-21-2016 , 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by MARE BELENGHER
can you pm me some indian sites pls?
Sure. There are many but I don't think they accept foreign players
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07-21-2016 , 05:52 PM
thanks very much for adding more micro games to the evening schedule!!!
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07-21-2016 , 06:54 PM
Omania Turbo: NLO8 215 Tuesday PLO Thursday 10pm CET?

320 pko NLO8 hyper sundays could be huge. The hypers seem pretty popular and I can see plenty of hsregs being attracted with a reasonable guarantee. Still feels like a buyin between 109-530 earlier on sundays for both 4 card games is needed. These games are one of the remaining things stars has over competitors.
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07-22-2016 , 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerStars Luke
The Weekly 8-Game was supposed to bring out the cash game regulars as well! You all will have a difficult time convincing me that a niche game isn't succeeding because the buy-in is prohibitively low.
The $530 8-Game failed because:
1) Started with a 5k gtd (!!!):
-As much as you want to claim that guarantees don't attract players, setting the guarantee to be 10 players and then increasing it to 16 players (8k gtd) wasn't exactly setting this tournament up for success.

2) 8-Game and HORSE to a lesser extent are extremely unbalanced in as an online MTT:
-The flop games play a lot bigger because levels are based on time and not by levels.
-Stalling in a player's weaker games is also occurring, etc.
-Until you can change this to how it is in WSOP or in Cash games, it'll continue to be a problem where 10 Razz hands are played in a 5 minute level but only 3 Triple Draw or FLO8 hands are played in the same 5 minutes.

3) Ran on a Friday:
-Probably the worst day to run a tournament with the amount of real life things to do on this day.

For those three reasons, I don't think you can take the results of one tournament and use it to conclude that FLO8 or any other mixed/non-holdem game would be unsuccessful.
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07-22-2016 , 02:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Demonic16
Omania Turbo: NLO8 215 Tuesday PLO Thursday 10pm CET?

320 pko NLO8 hyper sundays could be huge. The hypers seem pretty popular and I can see plenty of hsregs being attracted with a reasonable guarantee. Still feels like a buyin between 109-530 earlier on sundays for both 4 card games is needed. These games are one of the remaining things stars has over competitors.
+1 to big hypers on Sundays
I've suggested adding a NLO8 Supersonic on Sundays. Although having the PKOmania brand, that might be a more appropriate umbrella to expand under.

Re: Omania Turbo on Tuesdays and Thursdays, do you think it would make more sense to schedule them on the same day as the $320 Omanias? It'll give players two tournaments to play on a single day rather than having to log in on separate days.

The $215 turbos would run 3.5 hours after the $320 starts. This gives players a "2nd Chance" event and those that want to play both still have 15 mins to late reg the $320. Using the same idea, an $82/$109 hyper could also be scheduled near the end of $215 turbo's late reg period.

Tuesdays and Thursdays can still be used for other games (FLO8, FL 2-7 Triple Draw, Game of the Week, etc.
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07-22-2016 , 08:22 AM
vip mtts on sunday pls....
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07-22-2016 , 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by anuj22
Sure. There are many but I don't think they accept foreign players
http://www.theworldsworstwebsiteever.com/ I found one, looks indian.
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07-22-2016 , 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by broken_jia
As much as you want to claim that guarantees don't attract players, setting the guarantee to be 10 players and then increasing it to 16 players (8k gtd) wasn't exactly setting this tournament up for success.
So true. If you want these tourneys to be successful you need to start off these tourneys with bigger guarantees.

Lets say you decide to add a Weekly $215 8-Game (I know we already have Weekly $82 8-game but just for the sake of example) , you'll be probably be giving it a $4-5k gtd. But instead of giving it $4k or $5k gtd, why not give it a $10k gtd? By giving it $10k gtd couple of things may happen. i) it will overlay ii) it will get a prizepool of $12-15k or even more. But by having $4-5k gtd, i) surely there won't be any overlay ii) it will get a prizepool of $7-8k or more but less chance of $10k+.

If they go overlay, let them go overlay. Let it run 3-4 times more and if they still overlay you can always reduce their gtd later but at least they will have more chance of getting a prizepool of $12-15k than if you ever gave them $4-5k gtd. Imo starting off new tourneys with bigger guarantees is good for their long term growth.

Another thing I'd like to say. New Major/special tourney should always start off with some kind of promotion. This way you'll be able to give them bigger guarantees. Promos like happy hour (150% rakeback), milestone giveaway, jackpot prize(but not like last year's daily double unachievable jackpot) etc would be great. Its not like we get to see new major/special tourney every month, I'm sure you guys will be able to afford just like you are able to afford for Sunday Storm giveaways. And instead of giving it a "new tournament" label, give it "Premiere Special" label

For example - You decide to add a new Friday major $7.50 buy in tourney and give it $12K gtd with no promo. But instead make it $25K Gtd and let there be couple of promos like I mentioned above.

10:00 ET $7.50 Friday PowerPlay, $12K Gtd - New Tournament!

10:00 ET $7.50 Friday PowerPlay, $25K Gtd - Premiere Special!

Use 'New tournament!' label for non special tourneys

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Originally Posted by PokerStars Luke
The Weekly 8-Game was supposed to bring out the cash game regulars as well!
I don't think cash game players regularly check the tourney lobby and even if they do they may miss out these new tourneys. Sure lobby flyer is a good way to promote new and some of the existing brand/tourneys but its only visible in tourney lobby. You can also use "My News" section to advertise new tourneys/brand - they are visible to everybody.
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07-22-2016 , 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by mashxx
http://www.theworldsworstwebsiteever.com/ I found one, looks indian.
I hate you very much
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07-22-2016 , 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by broken_jia
+1 to big hypers on Sundays
I've suggested adding a NLO8 Supersonic on Sundays. Although having the PKOmania brand, that might be a more appropriate umbrella to expand under.

Re: Omania Turbo on Tuesdays and Thursdays, do you think it would make more sense to schedule them on the same day as the $320 Omanias? It'll give players two tournaments to play on a single day rather than having to log in on separate days.

The $215 turbos would run 3.5 hours after the $320 starts. This gives players a "2nd Chance" event and those that want to play both still have 15 mins to late reg the $320. Using the same idea, an $82/$109 hyper could also be scheduled near the end of $215 turbo's late reg period.

Tuesdays and Thursdays can still be used for other games (FLO8, FL 2-7 Triple Draw, Game of the Week, etc.
Personally I'd be running a 215 plo and o8 variant every night with a 109 turbo 3 hours or so afterwards. There are already second chance events kinda in the 55 specials on the corresponding days and reentries in the events themselves. I see the Tuesday/Thursday turbos as an intro for some of the HS regs, they give the 4card guys a reason to grind too. I'd be a fan of your system too though.
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07-22-2016 , 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerStars Luke
The Weekly 8-Game was supposed to bring out the cash game regulars as well! You all will have a difficult time convincing me that a niche game isn't succeeding because the buy-in is prohibitively low.
1. Friday is probably the worst day for online poker
2. Extremely low Gtd

With a tiny field of players in a 6-max it meant that you basically had to play 3/4-handed against die hard regs throughout the whole tourney. Had it been 8-max Horse I might had helped to raise the Gtd.

Having said that, how about a Thursday $320-$530 HORSE (alongside a Tuesday $320 FLO8 you said you were gonna look into it)?
Having removed ALL Fr+Su High Stakes Mixes games, you gotta offer us something.
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07-23-2016 , 08:37 AM
Luke dont forget to answer to lowstakes series or just give us your view on the lowstakes schedule in general please. im very curios because i think lowstakes guys are just forgotten.
i think $5-$19 is need more attention, esp the $8-$16.50.
Big $8 would be nice addition between 14:00-19:00CET
and maybe a Big $5 too
Big $16 too
more lowstakes Hots (hot $8?) between 14:00-21:00cet

just not these vanillas without redblue label/ attention or very great guarantees


why there is no regular rebuy tourneys with colors. we have bigs, hots, bounty builders with color labels, why no a similar version but with rebuys, $3-$5-$8 etc w guarantees like bigs hots bbs

Last edited by playr; 07-23-2016 at 08:43 AM.
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07-23-2016 , 08:58 PM
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+1

Why is micro millions for players of certain countries only?

What about those of us who are awake for the other 16 hours of the day?
There is a 15 hour window with ONE tournament running each day.

Care to comment, Luke?
+1. Big gap in the schedule.
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07-23-2016 , 10:07 PM
Tanks for fixing payouts!
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07-24-2016 , 03:10 AM
+ a lot for a low-midstakes series, with the lower bi's for MM this year you really need to address the 11-55$ stakes with a nice series, like rounder will say this is just an easy layup

surely anyone on the stars payroll knows it will do well? shouldn't be hard to give it a cool name and brand it quickly either, you could even do it late 2016 already (but you won't)
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07-24-2016 , 05:24 AM
Luke, can we have sats to the $22 Double Deuce, please?
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07-24-2016 , 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by LOLCh1pPorn
+ a lot for a low-midstakes series, with the lower bi's for MM this year you really need to address the 11-55$ stakes with a nice series, like rounder will say this is just an easy layup

surely anyone on the stars payroll knows it will do well? shouldn't be hard to give it a cool name and brand it quickly either, you could even do it late 2016 already (but you won't)
+ 1

Unfortunately I think this is not going to happen
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07-24-2016 , 12:58 PM
Would be fun! Most regs play midstakes--> so much rake! Come on stars!
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07-24-2016 , 01:28 PM
Why is there no sats to the $27 08 mtt's now.
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07-24-2016 , 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by LOLCh1pPorn
+ a lot for a low-midstakes series, with the lower bi's for MM this year you really need to address the 11-55$ stakes with a nice series, like rounder will say this is just an easy layup

surely anyone on the stars payroll knows it will do well? shouldn't be hard to give it a cool name and brand it quickly either, you could even do it late 2016 already (but you won't)
+1, it's an absolute no brainer!
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07-24-2016 , 05:17 PM
There was no hand4hand in today's big11. Bug or new feature ?
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