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07-09-2016 , 01:26 AM
More deepstacks would be nice at all BI levels
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07-09-2016 , 01:58 AM
micro guys only have 3 deepstacks a day, very spread apart. Surely a 1.10 deepstacks would do better then a 1.10 hyper 6max 500gtd at 03:35 MT, at least over the long run. Really can't see it doing worse. Especially since there is a deep stacks 2.20 just an hour later.

Also the gap I've been talking about that kills a lot of sessions starting around 19:00 MT and ending around 21:15 MT could have a 1.10 deepstacks starting between the bb4 and big4, as well as maybe a 3.30 slightly later but I think that would be better suited as a turbo but would settle for a SKO or reg speed- pretty much anything but ante up, rebuy, time, hyper, or pko would be very nice addition.

Have you put much consideration into turbo deepstacks before? I think if they were structured nicely that they would do good. I am interested in what other people think of this idea.
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07-09-2016 , 02:52 AM
The structure for the 1M freeroll is just loooooooool
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07-09-2016 , 02:58 AM
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Originally Posted by yeahm8
The structure for the 1M freeroll is just loooooooool
+75000
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07-09-2016 , 04:03 AM
Luke, any consideration to Step Mtts?

Steps are under utilised presently as SnG's because mtt players (who benefit most from the tickets) need scheduled breaks.

Adding an hourly or 2-hourly 7.50, 27 82 and a weekly 215 etx surely would be ok?

Can't hurt the Sunday million traffic either given amounts of 27 sats and chances to get a 215 ticket
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07-09-2016 , 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Erebgil_bg
+1

there's also room for some mid-stakes turbos added (the old 27 tko was perfect)
+10000, but already mentioned here so i dont think that something is going to get changed.
or maybe we get another 33$ turbo with 8k gtd.
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07-09-2016 , 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by aariestiger
More deepstacks would be nice at all BI levels
ya. The 27 deep is an awesome tournament.
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07-09-2016 , 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by yeahm8
The structure for the 1M freeroll is just loooooooool
Was it 25k to the winner last time?

I didn't believe it could be even worse after the last feedback. Maybe it actually is worse because of the feedback. This is so sad, so Amaya.

Please make it "Only final table paid" or "Winner takes it all" in December. It would be great. One time! Thanks.
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07-09-2016 , 02:44 PM
Just looked at the MTT schedule and the guarantees, did not know that they could even drop any lower than late June.
Euros is on the verge of over so that doesn't justify it anymore.
A shame that I had a free evening to play, but with the situation as is for the moment I politely say NO THANK YOU.
GG
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07-09-2016 , 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by DoGGz
Those 75% games are really polarizing. Some people are loving them, some people are hating them.

But, love them for hate them, they get a lot more runners on Saturday than during the week. The Bigs don't see nearly that spike in players. I doubt Luke looks at this as anything other than a success, so don't expect it to change.
I don't expect it to change. Just as Stars shouldn't expect me to change my mind and play elsewhere on a Saturday
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07-09-2016 , 04:05 PM
Poker Stars Luke,

Thanks for the responses and being more active. Keep it up!

I was angry at your absence, I still love you though.
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07-10-2016 , 05:56 AM
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07-10-2016 , 11:04 AM
The payout of the 1m$ vip free next week is a joke..i mean not for ps, at least they will get more back from rake..#wediditforthe98%
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07-10-2016 , 12:33 PM
Luke,
for the MicroMillions Main event structure, can you make it the same structure as the Sunday Million? with the same amount of starting chips and also being the highlight of the series.
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07-10-2016 , 01:32 PM
lol the 11$ deadline SM sat has now 50 seats? wasn't something like 300? is this permanent?
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07-10-2016 , 02:24 PM
Logged on today and logged off again after ten minutes. Before changes that would never have happened. 4th week without playing on stars.
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07-11-2016 , 05:06 AM
+1 for more 2-day tournaments! Always enjoyed them a lot on PS.FR as it doesn't interfere with my working schedule too much.
As a micro player I'd especially enjoy the Sunday Mini Million in a 2-day format!
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07-11-2016 , 05:37 AM
Yeah, Sunday Million as a 2 dayer might be unrealistic but i love the idea of a 2 day event on a Sunday aimed at those with a job.

Maybe have one for the Euro people and one for the Canada/ROW timezones.

$82 $109, or 215

Also, as has been mentioned, another solution is to introduce more phase tournaments.

I realise that you dont wanna clog the lobby but having one for Medium and High woulcnt be too cluttered imo. $27 gets my vote for selfish reasons.
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07-11-2016 , 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by UPAY4DINNER
Whilst this is true to a certain degree I think A LOT of that is down to your butchering of the PSKOs. The 75% KO element means I refuse to play Saturday's when I have the opportunity.
Oh c'mon, that is just LOL. You really think recs want to play on Saturdays? Saturdays have been lower than Sundays since the beginning of online poker for a very good reason... people go out on Saturdays! Sundays are and always will be the big day to play.

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Originally Posted by Pake
Was it 25k to the winner last time?

I didn't believe it could be even worse after the last feedback. Maybe it actually is worse because of the feedback. This is so sad, so Amaya.

Please make it "Only final table paid" or "Winner takes it all" in December. It would be great. One time! Thanks.
If the intention is to return money back into the poker economy, what would be the purpose of such a pay out? Such a comment as yours cannot possibly be serious.

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Originally Posted by UPAY4DINNER
2008 email.....

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How the mighty have fallen
Yeah we get it, things change in 8 years. There was also global liquidity, huge marketing budgets from a variety of companies, poker on mainstream TV, etc etc. So are what you saying is that you want a time travel machine? Because things are NEVER going to be as "good" as they were in the "old days".

-BD
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07-11-2016 , 11:35 AM
In the WCOOP thread I was talking about the possibility to put a 50/50 tournament in the 2016 Series schedule.

But I really think it is something nice to put in the regular schedule in the room.

What do you think guys?

I believe it can bring more recreational player looking for tournaments to play with less variance influence and (maybe) the professional players could use it too.

I mean... there's less variance, more recreational players, large fields, half of the field ITM and good prizes for final table. This can't be bad, right?

Just my opinion.
Want to hear from you guys too.

Thanks.
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07-11-2016 , 11:45 AM
Sounds great and on Saturdays we can make it 75/25
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07-11-2016 , 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by gausspoker
I'm sure I had the same opinion as a player, but being on the other side, I really do not think Saturday could come close to rivalling Sunday in terms of prize pools. People make plans to go out Saturday night and stay in on Sunday.

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Originally Posted by TwistedEcho
Also having read this thread recently, I was curious if you could let us know the reason you chose not to promote Micro Millions? I get that the buyins are smaller so its probably less of an issue for people just playing them if the series just began tomorrow - but surely had the schedule been posted a month ago with some sats and simple promotion running that would just increase participation and guarantees and just overall been a good thing?

Have struggled to find a legit reason to not launch it into the lobby a month early, send out e-mails, do a small deposit bonus and start running sats etc but i'm assuming someone on the stars team felt not doing this was better thing?
There's a name I haven't seen for a while!

Players here are used to a lot of discussion on the *COOPs well in advance of them beginning. However, most promotions at PokerStars typically aren't launched until very close to the start date. Announcing MicroMillions a month early would take player attention from other promotions running at the same time, such as Pyramid or $1M Spin & Go. There is much more crossover with other promotions at those stakes than at the *COOP level where players need time to plan travel.

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Originally Posted by UPAY4DINNER
Whilst this is true to a certain degree I think A LOT of that is down to your butchering of the PSKOs. The 75% KO element means I refuse to play Saturday's when I have the opportunity.
The 75% bounty on Saturdays do really, really well. I have no plans to change them.

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Originally Posted by EmilioChekshevez
thoughts on a monthly Sunday Special? Last Sunday of the month 2x guarantees across the board with a $530 Sunday Million, 2m guarantee (2-day event?)
While not exactly this, I have considered adding ad-hoc tournaments after *COOPs to capture the attention of players still on the site without hurting the *COOPs themselves. For instance, the Tuesday after WCOOP might be a good time for a one-off high stakes tournament!

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Originally Posted by aariestiger
I still think FT only paid is a good idea in these, since very little equity is added in any payout spot other then 1st-3rd as it is. And even 1st -3rd feels super weak.
The higher the bounty portion is, the less special the final table will feel in any tournament. These tournaments only pay 7.5% at the moment, and I'm not sure I want to go lower than that.

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Originally Posted by jayme87
Interesting you say that Luke about changing the buy in of the 162, I do think that lowering it will probably get more participants, def should consider maybe another deepstack pko around 15 minutes after the big 162, they seem to be doing pretty well imo
Just quoting because someone said more PKOs.

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Originally Posted by aariestiger
More deepstacks would be nice at all BI levels
Noted, thanks.

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Originally Posted by aariestiger
micro guys only have 3 deepstacks a day, very spread apart. Surely a 1.10 deepstacks would do better then a 1.10 hyper 6max 500gtd at 03:35 MT, at least over the long run. Really can't see it doing worse. Especially since there is a deep stacks 2.20 just an hour later.

Also the gap I've been talking about that kills a lot of sessions starting around 19:00 MT and ending around 21:15 MT could have a 1.10 deepstacks starting between the bb4 and big4, as well as maybe a 3.30 slightly later but I think that would be better suited as a turbo but would settle for a SKO or reg speed- pretty much anything but ante up, rebuy, time, hyper, or pko would be very nice addition.

Have you put much consideration into turbo deepstacks before? I think if they were structured nicely that they would do good. I am interested in what other people think of this idea.
Turbo deep satellites are immensely popular, so they could be a good fit in the regular schedule with some structure tweaks...

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Originally Posted by Danshiel350
Luke, any consideration to Step Mtts?

Steps are under utilised presently as SnG's because mtt players (who benefit most from the tickets) need scheduled breaks.

Adding an hourly or 2-hourly 7.50, 27 82 and a weekly 215 etx surely would be ok?

Can't hurt the Sunday million traffic either given amounts of 27 sats and chances to get a 215 ticket
I'd never thought of the bolded, but it is a very good point! I'll pass this along to Baard. I do agree that a generic ticket-spewing tournament would be well-received if executed properly.

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Originally Posted by Smart_Guy
Poker Stars Luke,

Thanks for the responses and being more active. Keep it up!

I was angry at your absence, I still love you though.
Cheers

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Originally Posted by Killerscore9
Luke,
for the MicroMillions Main event structure, can you make it the same structure as the Sunday Million? with the same amount of starting chips and also being the highlight of the series.
The MicroMillions main event has the nearly same structure as the Sunday Million, with the only difference being shorter level times to keep the total run time of the tourney reasonable.

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Originally Posted by rainbowsinthesky
lol the 11$ deadline SM sat has now 50 seats? wasn't something like 300? is this permanent?
It was 125 not too long ago, not 300. Much like the Million, it has declined during summer time. It will hopefully start gaining steam now that Euros have ended.

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Originally Posted by DebtsNBooze
+1 for more 2-day tournaments! Always enjoyed them a lot on PS.FR as it doesn't interfere with my working schedule too much.
As a micro player I'd especially enjoy the Sunday Mini Million in a 2-day format!
I'm guessing you're European.
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07-11-2016 , 12:31 PM
You guys should really consider adopting Bovada's business model by making all tables anonymous and release all hand histories 24 hours after. Compared to Pokerstars, I have more fun playing on Bovada with terrible software and no synced breaks(brutal), but anonymous tables. People might hate the idea, without even experiencing fully anonymous tables, but if 2016 has proven anything, Stars, you can get away with anything and people will keep coming back.

Take a shot. You dont have much to lose. Maybe a slight hit in the short term, but for a brighter future
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07-11-2016 , 12:54 PM
So Luke, is there any chance of lower stakes tournaments returning to a more "normal" payout structure, with near 2x min cash?
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07-11-2016 , 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by keitho1986
Sounds great and on Saturdays we can make it 75/25
lol... ironic mode on? hehehe

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But think about this:

Something like "Thursday Fifty/Fifty" or "Sunday 50/50 Storm". I'm not talking about "Big Fifty/Fifty $215". U know?

Just one or two major tournaments with this type of game.
It's enough. And nice at the same time.

I bet a lot of regular players and also professionals would play in this tournament.

And tons of recreational players too.
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