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07-07-2016 , 07:21 PM
Move the Mil to Saturday and give it a better structure and make it a 2 day, run a Million '2nd chance' on Sunday with a faster structure than it currently has. My thought being a variable speed, starting somewhat fast and slowing down
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07-07-2016 , 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by jdawg91
Move the Mil to Saturday and give it a better structure and make it a 2 day, run a Million '2nd chance' on Sunday with a faster structure than it currently has. My thought being a variable speed, starting somewhat fast and slowing down
God no :s
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07-07-2016 , 09:01 PM
Hey Luke, what did you mean by "A lot has changed in a year. In order to offer a $1M guaranteed, it was decided that the main event would be re-entry".

Does this mean that less recs are playing or less players or what exactly?
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07-07-2016 , 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by slr940
Hey Luke, what did you mean by "A lot has changed in a year. In order to offer a $1M guaranteed, it was decided that the main event would be re-entry".

Does this mean that less recs are playing or less players or what exactly?
More and more people are making tracks, and playing elsewhere or not at all or significantly less. Even with the main event being displayed slightly in advance in the lobby, there will be significantly less turn out and way less people qualifying in satties, etc...

It could easily be freezeout with a little more notice and better planning, I would bet. But we get the short notice no chance of anything great version of MMs instead.
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07-07-2016 , 10:27 PM
maybe swap the b44 with b162 i feel that you could hit the 18k gtd easy putting it in the 162 slot! also maybe thinking about adding another mini daily major, how about the 33 rebuy? i know but the 10k stacks are ok imo, just trying to fill mornings a bit for guys and i feel the 162 will get alot more entries , dunno what other guys think who play the 162 or dont for that matter
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07-08-2016 , 06:00 AM
meh, 2 day sunday millions will massively increase ghosting.
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07-08-2016 , 07:23 AM
No for 2day milly.
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07-08-2016 , 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by OurSurveySays
meh, 2 day sunday millions will massively increase ghosting.
Why would it massively increase ghosting? Doesn't it only take minutes to dig up a colleague you already know to ghost? [a cash games player asking out of curiosity]
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07-08-2016 , 08:09 AM
Well, by the time it's needed most people are asleep. It's a valid point.
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07-08-2016 , 09:28 AM
Rather introduce new 2 day major instead of adjusting current million then. Some kind of 55 buy in - 2 day on sunday with a very good structure. Would be huge I'd imagine.
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07-08-2016 , 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by LittleGoliath
Rather introduce new 2 day major instead of adjusting current million then. Some kind of 55 buy in - 2 day on sunday with a very good structure. Would be huge I'd imagine.
+1, look at the 75 euro sunday major on iPoker, an equivalent would be awesome.
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07-08-2016 , 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by newguy89
Moving the hot 44 back even just half an hour earlier would be pretty key. If you swap the start time with the 109 hyper, I'd bet more players would fire BOTH instead of skipping the 44 if busting the 109 hyper first. More incentive for the guys playing higher that mix the mid stuff in on top of high stakes to fire the 215 hot as well with this setup.

What do you guys think?
There's nothing to play after big 215 so I usually just give up or sometimes even by the big55- bring back $11 10k both 27 turbo kos 16.50 turbo 11 turbo 11 turbo psko 55 10k 11 rebuy 11 action hour 82 ultra deep 4max 5 quads plus more

They've replaced this with a bunch of nonsense 6max pskos and a 22 4k
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07-08-2016 , 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Snake-glory
The small tweak of 14:00, 14:30, 15:00 ET instead of the current 14:00, 15:00, 16:00 start times will help a bit.

Just add few PLO MTTs reg speed in that time slot 19:05 CET (13:05 ET) and at 23:05 CET (17:05 ET). $3.30 and $2.20 if possible.

PLO and PLO8 would be great, but if you add just 2 PLO it's ok too.

P.S.: Please add some NLHE reg speed between 22:45-00:15 CET (16:45-18:15 ET). Buy in $2.20-$4.40.
I'm going to check into peak time micro tournaments as soon as I can. Thanks for the suggestions.

Any more feedback on moving the major start times slightly?

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Originally Posted by Alexo
Awesome news. That's something positive at least! While you are evaluating the effects of the change, please take a look at the overall structure. For example, Big109 plays really really swallow between the 3 and 4 hour mark, with an average stack constantly below 30bb. I'm sure this change will make FTs' gameplay a lot better, but the previous stages still need some tweaking imo, at least the bigger buyins.
While it is possible some changes are made in the future, I think you know that I'm sensitive to tournament length. I try to avoid daily tournaments lasting too long.

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Originally Posted by CoronalDischarge
Think it was the SM one I was referring to, though I've had the same thought a few times that it looks a bit cheap/tacky. Maybe I'm just aesthetically over-sensitive
Any other opinions? I am basically using this as a template, so if it is that ugly, I should change it now! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Originally Posted by aariestiger
I think I pointed out adequately that there is little or no balance in the new schedule. Thanks for brushing aside all my suggestions, tho.
I can't reply to every post! Whenever a series of suggestions are made by the same poster, I typically don't have time at that exact moment to go through each one and provide an opinion. Instead, I'm adding things to my to-do list. Once it is time to investigate these concerns, I go back and read the posts.

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Originally Posted by Big_Mick00
Europe makes up for 90%+ of their players though, stars cater for huge markets in Canada and South America
Yes, this is the primary factor. I think if the Sunday Million was 2-day, it would still have to last a long time on day 1 in order to reach payouts significant enough for our friends in the Americas to leave work early.

Another advantage to making it 2-day is increasing rail potential! I know I'd watch the Sunday Million final table on Twitch every week if it was on at a reasonable time here.

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Originally Posted by CupcakeTrev
There is a 1.10 6max MTT at 12.25pm ET and a 3.30 6max at 4.40pm ET.

Please could we have a 2.20 regular speed 6max at around 2.30pm ET.

Every hour throughout the day at 23 minutes past the hour, you have alternating HORSE and 8-Game micro MTTs. However, at peak time for 2 hours, you have chosen not to have them where there are $27 versions. We're not going to play a $27 MTT because a $2 one isn't available.

Please could we have a 2.20 8-Game and a 2.20 HORSE at 2.23pm and 3.23pm ET like throughout the rest of the schedule. Or maybe $3.30 versions as it is peak time.

I like straight up PLO Hi MTTs, whether 6max or 9max, but at the micro level around peak hours, we only have a 2.20 PLO 6max at 12.09pm ET with around 350+ runners, and a 3.30 PLO 6max turbo at 1.39pm ET with nearly 300 runners. There is a hyper one after 3pm, but thats too fast for me. So given the field sizes, it shows there is demand for PLO Hi.

Please can we have a couple more PLO Hi micros around peak hours, preferably regular speed ones. 6-max or 9-max is fine with me.

Thanks for your time!
And thanks for your suggestions. These are all areas I'll be addressing soon.

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Originally Posted by norfair18
When the old b109 and 109BB were only 45 minutes apart they performed much better than they do in their current time slots.

I used to play both everyday in the old schedule. Now I only play the BB109 cuz frankly there aren't enough mid/hs non-turbo offerings in the current schedule for me to want to start my day a couple hours earlier and reg a B109 40k. Prefer these tournaments closer together, the data shows it worked well.

Great changes on the final tables playing longer! And thx for participating in the thread.
Is this a common concern? I've never seen someone say they're skipping the Big $109 because of the time slot.

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Originally Posted by AKJMoscow
Any thoughts on adding in higher buyin phase Mtts like the $11 one?

like $55/$109/$215 along those lines, like a low(which we already have) a 'medium' and a 'high'

Suppose a micro one wouldn't go a miss either as there are so many micro fans.
I don't foresee this happening. It would cause confusion in the lobby and I think Phase 1s would be too small to attract new players. It would have to be structured so that only one or two Phases run per day with a final on Sunday.

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Originally Posted by newguy89
Moving the hot 44 back even just half an hour earlier would be pretty key. If you swap the start time with the 109 hyper, I'd bet more players would fire BOTH instead of skipping the 44 if busting the 109 hyper first. More incentive for the guys playing higher that mix the mid stuff in on top of high stakes to fire the 215 hot as well with this setup.

What do you guys think?
I think the Hot $44 is a great tournament for those in the Americas. Also, the Hots all run on the :15s, so any start time changes would involve other Hots as well.

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Originally Posted by ChoakMyDee
Luke, thanks for the new heads-up 32 man sitngo. A few different buy-ins might be good.
I'll pass this feedback on. They've been up for a almost two months, did you just notice them?

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Originally Posted by jdawg91
Move the Mil to Saturday and give it a better structure and make it a 2 day, run a Million '2nd chance' on Sunday with a faster structure than it currently has. My thought being a variable speed, starting somewhat fast and slowing down
The Sunday Million is not moving to Saturday. Contrary to what players here think, a whole lot less people are willing to play on Saturdays!

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Originally Posted by slr940
Hey Luke, what did you mean by "A lot has changed in a year. In order to offer a $1M guaranteed, it was decided that the main event would be re-entry".

Does this mean that less recs are playing or less players or what exactly?
Should've clarified this one in the first place! I was suggesting that currency fluctuations and leaving markets (Israel, Portugal, Slovenia) affects the risk we're willing to take in such tournaments.

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Originally Posted by jayme87
maybe swap the b44 with b162 i feel that you could hit the 18k gtd easy putting it in the 162 slot! also maybe thinking about adding another mini daily major, how about the 33 rebuy? i know but the 10k stacks are ok imo, just trying to fill mornings a bit for guys and i feel the 162 will get alot more entries , dunno what other guys think who play the 162 or dont for that matter
I think the Big $162 in that slot will just always be a smaller tournament. If I was going to change it, I would probably change the buy-in. The Big $44 at 10:00 and the Big $27 are both doing well where they are.
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07-08-2016 , 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerStars Luke
Contrary to what players here think, a whole lot less people are willing to play on Saturdays!

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07-08-2016 , 02:01 PM
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Yes, this is the primary factor. I think if the Sunday Million was 2-day, it would still have to last a long time on day 1 in order to reach payouts significant enough for our friends in the Americas to leave work early.

Another advantage to making it 2-day is increasing rail potential! I know I'd watch the Sunday Million final table on Twitch every week if it was on at a reasonable time here.
Years ago there was a WCOOP radio that would be on for final tables (and final two of bigger ones??) that was pretty cool and I enjoyed listening to it. Nowadays with the amount of Twitch streamers I'm sure you could come up with a decent official FT twitch stream for WCOOP that would get a reasonable amount of viewers (just have to be selective on who your commentators are since lots of downtime to fill during none card-up coverage, but seems to work for EPTs!). I know for the bigger WCOOPs some streamers do this already.

In the future, the main event, or even select tournaments (or even all??) could potentially be streamed cards-up on a delay (with commentators watching the delayed feed so tweets/comments/audience participation can run alongside actual action seemingly) which would make a much more interesting show to watch/be a part of.
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07-08-2016 , 02:05 PM
Also having read this thread recently, I was curious if you could let us know the reason you chose not to promote Micro Millions? I get that the buyins are smaller so its probably less of an issue for people just playing them if the series just began tomorrow - but surely had the schedule been posted a month ago with some sats and simple promotion running that would just increase participation and guarantees and just overall been a good thing?

Have struggled to find a legit reason to not launch it into the lobby a month early, send out e-mails, do a small deposit bonus and start running sats etc but i'm assuming someone on the stars team felt not doing this was better thing?
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07-08-2016 , 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerStars Luke
Contrary to what players here think, a whole lot less people are willing to play on Saturdays!
Whilst this is true to a certain degree I think A LOT of that is down to your butchering of the PSKOs. The 75% KO element means I refuse to play Saturday's when I have the opportunity.
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07-08-2016 , 04:01 PM
thoughts on a monthly Sunday Special? Last Sunday of the month 2x guarantees across the board with a $530 Sunday Million, 2m guarantee (2-day event?)
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07-08-2016 , 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by UPAY4DINNER
Whilst this is true to a certain degree I think A LOT of that is down to your butchering of the PSKOs. The 75% KO element means I refuse to play Saturday's when I have the opportunity.
exactly. why play saturday (which most regs and recs are available to play) if the schedule is even worse then it already is on weekdays..?

With the 75% kos, there really is no point in playing the bounty builders on Saturday, leaving very few desirable games to grind.
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07-08-2016 , 05:22 PM
Those 75% games are really polarizing. Some people are loving them, some people are hating them.

But, love them for hate them, they get a lot more runners on Saturday than during the week. The Bigs don't see nearly that spike in players. I doubt Luke looks at this as anything other than a success, so don't expect it to change.
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07-08-2016 , 05:34 PM
true that.
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07-08-2016 , 05:37 PM
I don't mind sattying into the ones higher than my regular stake (wouldn't direct buy in tho ever), where if I get a ko, it feels like a win, but to FT one (obv not sattying in) in my regular BI levels is just, well, I did it once, and decided it simply was a waste of time. Won't be playing the micro ones on Saturday very often if at all anymore.
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07-08-2016 , 05:41 PM
I still think FT only paid is a good idea in these, since very little equity is added in any payout spot other then 1st-3rd as it is. And even 1st -3rd feels super weak.
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07-08-2016 , 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by newguy89
Moving the hot 44 back even just half an hour earlier would be pretty key. If you swap the start time with the 109 hyper, I'd bet more players would fire BOTH instead of skipping the 44 if busting the 109 hyper first. More incentive for the guys playing higher that mix the mid stuff in on top of high stakes to fire the 215 hot as well with this setup.

What do you guys think?
+1

there's also room for some mid-stakes turbos added (the old 27 tko was perfect)
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07-09-2016 , 01:17 AM
Interesting you say that Luke about changing the buy in of the 162, I do think that lowering it will probably get more participants, def should consider maybe another deepstack pko around 15 minutes after the big 162, they seem to be doing pretty well imo
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