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05-17-2016 , 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by romdom
sick "graph" luke....is that mspaint orrr, wtf r u doing? why is the first week after scoop bigger than scoop, according to your "graph"? doesnt make much sense.

do you really disrespect us so much? putting up a "graph" that misleading is so abdurd....

why didn't you label wcoop? and you say the y axis is money, whose money?

wtf is happening, do you really think we are all stupid? im offended.


This. Wtf is that graph luke
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05-17-2016 , 08:58 PM
nvm
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05-17-2016 , 09:32 PM
pokerstars luke, why give a "graph " out at all? how many people in this thread, iyo, saw that graph and were like "ohhhh, luke has the data, he's obv right."? Do you think that number exceeds the number of people who felt like myself? disenfranchised, insulted and oi?

From how we are being treated, it is quite evident that upper management is of the opinion that we the players are a collective pool of degenerate pond scum, not gonna argue the merits of that....but that being said, pokerstars is no longer anything more than a tool for enabling degenerate pond scum. people that continue to play on your site as a hopeful professional are going to dwindle to zero in the near future, i hope that is what you want, because you are going to achieve it before you know it.

you're no better than crack/heroine dealers or actual state run lotteries. you are now preying on the poor and uneducated, and killing the game of poker in the process. the company you work for is not the company you played for, pretty disgusted
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05-17-2016 , 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by blakkman08
This. Wtf is that graph luke
I think that's the coastline of the Southern Tip of Isle of Man. Luke's sketch is a little off but not a bad effort.
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05-18-2016 , 02:33 AM
lets all wait for doggz to tell us that some graphs are better than no graphs
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05-18-2016 , 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by ThatsMySpot
Fewer isn't necessarily better neither, and in this case is significatively worse.

Big GTD MTTs are exciting, for sure, but we need also some MTTs with fewer players that allows us to build roll in order to take shots on those big gtds.

I play ABI $7. Back on March, I used to grind 27 MTTs daily between PokerStars and Full Tilt. Today I grind 9 MTTs, and after SCOOP will be 7.

I understand Amaya's new policy, however, at least throw something to the players between amateurs and pros.
This is exactly what I was going to say. The variance is extreme at these high gtds MTTs with thousands of players...I don't have a snowball's chance in hell of final tabling one of them. However the smaller field ones I was more successful at have all been removed!

Also the FTP smaller field MTTs(like the Superstack 3K) have now been merged with Stars so they are going to become impossible for mew to beat as well.
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05-18-2016 , 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerStars Luke

Micro Millions will tentatively return in July. I currently do not have any more details than that!

lol one of the most succesfull series will tentatively return.

cant wait to play 5k gtd MMs

wp
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05-18-2016 , 06:16 AM
That graph, is it the representation of your professionalism?
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05-18-2016 , 06:48 AM
next step : adjusting the RNG?
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05-18-2016 , 07:12 AM
I think rng could be made more rec friendly, I think it's feasible.
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05-18-2016 , 07:34 AM
More tourneys are needed in mid-high stakes. I can fire up a 6 table session at max these days and if I bust 2-3 quickly (which is likely), there is nothing left to register for a couple of hours. More tourneys in the 33-109 range pls Luke. They should all have guarantees above 10k because most will just skip over them otherwise. Especially with the payout structures awarding less money for 1st place, anything below a 10k guarantee is rather unappealing. Cheers

Last edited by Transcendence; 05-18-2016 at 07:53 AM.
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05-18-2016 , 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by mashxx
I think rng could be made more rec friendly, I think it's feasible.

Yes

Amaya profit plan :

step 1 : get rid of people who are aware of the RNG
step 2 : adjust the RNG
step 3 : profit

Last edited by Thegamewillendsoon; 05-18-2016 at 07:59 AM. Reason: needs more graph
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05-18-2016 , 07:56 AM
BEST

GRAPH

EVER
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05-18-2016 , 07:59 AM
Don't blame Luke.

The graph is real.

I mean this is their real image of us as a community, of their attitude to their clients, of the real state of things in the company.

This is real, and here's how it looks like in full:

Spoiler:
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05-18-2016 , 09:16 AM
Hahaha not sure what luke was expecting after posting that graph

5k startstack in the 320 6max would be nice.
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05-18-2016 , 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by SeaKing
This graph means close to nothing without the Y axis labeled, the point at EPT Barcelona could be X and Mid November 20X or those numbers could be X and 1.1X, without labeling the graph it is impossible to discern.

Spoiler:
I know you did this on purpose.
The point was simply to show that we react to seasonality in both directions. When traffic increases, so do guarantees. This is what the graph shows:

X axis: each point is one week beginning with 25 May 2015 and ending with 16 November 2015.
Y axis: The total amount of guarantees in the weekly tournament schedule. This does not include promotional tournaments, live event satellites, or WCOOP.

The lowest point (EPT Barcelona main) represents a 13.3% decrease from the first week post-SCOOP. The highest point (mid-November) represents a 9% increase from the first week post-SCOOP. From EPT Barcelona to mid-November, guarantees in the weekly schedule increased over 25%.
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05-18-2016 , 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerStars Luke
The point was simply to show that we react to seasonality in both directions. When traffic increases, so do guarantees. This is what the graph shows:

X axis: each point is one week beginning with 25 May 2015 and ending with 16 November 2015.
Y axis: The total amount of guarantees in the weekly tournament schedule. This does not include promotional tournaments, live event satellites, or WCOOP.

The lowest point (EPT Barcelona main) represents a 13.3% decrease from the first week post-SCOOP. The highest point (mid-November) represents a 9% increase from the first week post-SCOOP. From EPT Barcelona to mid-November, guarantees in the weekly schedule increased over 25%.
Luke when you say guarantees, do you mean that combined guarantees when up 25% as in if you added up all the guarantees of the week and they came to 10 million then now it's at 12.5 million?

I mean if that's the case in itself it means absolutely nothing. Maybe you slapped 2k guarantees on mtts that didn't have a guarantee and they reached 2k prizepools before and after. Maybe you added MTT's with new guarantees that just spread the recs around and all other mtt's suffered because of it.
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05-18-2016 , 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerStars Luke
The point was simply to show that we react to seasonality in both directions. When traffic increases, so do guarantees. This is what the graph shows:

X axis: each point is one week beginning with 25 May 2015 and ending with 16 November 2015.
Y axis: The total amount of guarantees in the weekly tournament schedule. This does not include promotional tournaments, live event satellites, or WCOOP.

The lowest point (EPT Barcelona main) represents a 13.3% decrease from the first week post-SCOOP. The highest point (mid-November) represents a 9% increase from the first week post-SCOOP. From EPT Barcelona to mid-November, guarantees in the weekly schedule increased over 25%.
sooooo, it's intentionally misleading, amirite?

Last edited by romdom; 05-18-2016 at 12:06 PM. Reason: respecting your intelligence enough to not spell out how....
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05-18-2016 , 01:14 PM
Josem's hacking graph >>> Luke's guarantees graph

Spoiler:
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05-18-2016 , 02:26 PM
Wednesdays feel much more boring without the late 320. The main problem in the past was that there's no much action before it starts and a significant % of people did quit around b162. With the new royale late editions and other additions, it could easily be more successful than before and perhaps sustain a 250k gtd

A single 109psko 40k gtd and a daily bb162 can't replace a 320 w 20k up top. Would be nice to see it back
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05-18-2016 , 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ThatsMySpot
Fewer isn't necessarily better neither, and in this case is significatively worse.

Big GTD MTTs are exciting, for sure, but we need also some MTTs with fewer players that allows us to build roll in order to take shots on those big gtds.

I play ABI $7. Back on March, I used to grind 27 MTTs daily between PokerStars and Full Tilt. Today I grind 9 MTTs, and after SCOOP will be 7.

I understand Amaya's new policy, however, at least throw something to the players between amateurs and pros.
+100. ABI around $3-$5 as well

What about a bunch of 250-300 player capped tourneys or some lower guarantees like we had before.

Maybe even go with a 8min/10min/12min progressing structure so we can reduce the field early and play deep for the money. Plus, ~12% for first, shallower fall-off and min-cash 2x+ buy-in.

...need some bread and butter to build the bank roll so I can play a ton of Bigs, Minis and BountyBuilders on Saturday or Sunday, when I'm not working.
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05-18-2016 , 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by anuj22
And also

1) Reduce the no. of ante up tourneys

2) Bring back hu tourneys, ultra deep stack tourneys

3) Friday special zoom tourneys - Have them zoom only for first couple of hours or till bubble is bursted and resume normal play once we are itm
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Originally Posted by PokerStars Luke
1) I don't think we have too many.

2) For those who haven't noticed yet, we've added a 32 player $7 heads-up SNG. It is in the lobby with a "New" tag and runs pretty frequently.

3) I think this sort of defeats the purpose. If you're entering the tournament for its Zoom appeal, wouldn't you want that portion of the tournament to last as long as possible?
1) We have currently 6 ante up tourneys. I know there aren't too many but I think there are other formats which are far far better than ante up tourneys and deserve to be in the schedule but they aren't like Cubed tourneys, ultra deep stack tourneys. Yes you very recently added ultra deep tourney but it would be great if you add this game for lower stake players too. And I would prefer if they are turbo or semi turbo and blinds starting with BB 500 instead of 250. Other formats like Big antes, Action hour - you can also add one of each of these formats as it will give us more variety.

2) Cool

3) Not sure about others but the reason I would want to play a zoom tourney is when I'm looking to play single table but at the same time keep myself busy. So if the normal dealing resumes once we are itm, this will make me play/register more tourneys but zoom makes its hard for us to multi-table. Don't you want your players to play more and more?

Also Luke, what are your thoughts on bringing back Bigger/Hotter versions on Sundays?

And yeah enjoy your well-deserved holiday

Once you're back, don't forget to look after non-nlhe schedule. They need more love, Luke. And they need to be special, maybe give them a new colour if you don't want them to be red but they need to be SPECIAL.
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05-18-2016 , 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by the_bridler
Yeh the players seem to agree that 6 max hypers provide a better experience as they have the choice of 6 max or full ring hyper mtts right?
Or is it because they want to play a hyper mtt and have no option but to play 6 max.
+1. so obvious really
i really don't get why you have to eradicate all fullring hypers or mixed games, even if 6max was more popular. there are some people who like fullring
(i see literally no reason other than the fact that you are one man working on the whole schedule, so having smaller variety and fewer number of tours in total makes your job a little easier)

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Originally Posted by Mecastyles
lets all wait for doggz to tell us that some graphs are better than no graphs
lol
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05-18-2016 , 09:03 PM
https://gyazo.com/acdb8d06ef50368eba27c52bd5bbe124

Last edited by romdom; 05-18-2016 at 09:04 PM. Reason: all my data from the last 10 yrs. x axis time, y axis satisfaction
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05-19-2016 , 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by romdom
Did u make that on excel? It's a good graph imo.
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