http://www.boomplayer.com/en/poker-h...827_D7CFE772D5

im cunfused by this hand, why is the openlimper allowed to raise again?

the small stack shove is more than a single BB and there has been no raise, so the shove still counts as a raise, so all players get the option to call or 3bet (I think )

if the shove was less than 180 he wouldnt be able to raise

I'm just a nobody but your edge is likely to be bigger in something like the million than a turbo event (even if the average field is a bit softer).

Better value (edge) has to be in the million.

Hi all,

I'm trimming down posts to make this reply slightly more readable.

This depends on a couple things, but definitely before summer with enough lead time to make any important changes. Then I'll go on holiday!

• I don't mind the idea of a sporadic non-promotional high-stakes tournament on Sundays, but it needs to be carefully planned. I do not have the bandwidth to do this at the moment. I'll keep it in the mind for the future.
• The $320 6-max will not be red. I don't see the value in it that you do.
• I don't think the BATTLE ROYALE is a mini-Thrill. I think the $109 Bounty Builder on Thursday @ 14:15 is essentially a mini-Thrill.
• I've traveled plenty for *COOPs myself and understand the importance of having the dates. Bryan understands as well. As soon as they're finalized, we'll make sure they're posted in a few different places.
• This last question is a good one! It is important to consider what you mean when you say "increased traffic". While I have no more information than you do, I think you primarily mean high-stakes tournament traffic. They're attempting to build incremental value by adding high-stakes tournaments. They likely do not see as much upside in trying to acquire micro or low-stakes players. I'm not trying to discuss my strategy, just giving some of my personal perspective. No stakes level will be ignored in the new schedule.

Until we have the functionality to change blind intervals at a %/# of players remaining, it is likely that the Bigs continue to have 10-minute levels. It simply isn't possible to manage each one with a different structure based on field size.

The simplest way of explaining this would be to look at the Big $109 vs. the Big $0.55. Implementing the structure you've requested in both of these tournaments will have very different results.

I do not actively direct players to any game type. I do my best to respond to demand. If recreational players wanted more 6-max, they'd have it.

I do plan on receiving feedback. It is a big project and I'm excited to get some opinions. That said, I do not know what I'll be sharing or when. Also, I'd like to say that I have a vision for what we'll be offering. This has been agreed upon by the team and is unlikely to change. I'd like to receive feedback regarding the execution of our strategy, not the strategy itself.

I've just looked at all mid-stakes NLO8 hypers from 2015 week 9 (when they were introduced) until last week. Their growth in terms of entries is about 14%.

In my opinion, the debate isn't whether or not these games have grown or if there is demand. It is about what is best to grow the prize pools. I think that is turbos and you all believe it is hyper-turbos. Perhaps it is both! I'll consider this and request feedback later on.

OK Jason, I've got to cherry pick because it is simply too long to quote again.

In my opinion, the current state of the high stakes tournament scene is:

• The daily high stakes tournaments are not as well-participated as they used to be. It is worth noting that the cost of entering these tournaments has significantly increased in the past year as the dollar has strengthened. Players in the $109-$320 range are likely more price sensitive than those at the $1,000+ range.
• The weekly high stakes tournaments (Thrill/Tuesday) have performed well compared to the above daily tournaments.
• Live festivals continue to draw strong high stakes crowds. This results in the high stakes crowd leaving a smaller footprint in the daily/weekly schedule. They still come for the championship series, but there is a lot of variance in week to week performance.
• SCOOP/WCOOP/high stakes promotions perform well.

This isn't meant to counter anything you've written, I'm just providing my perspective.

I think you're mistaken. The game has matured and the average skill of all players has risen. This does not mean that all players who can spell poker have dreams of hitting it big on a daily basis. If this was the case, we'd have far fewer tournaments on the schedule.

I don't understand your argument here. Of course they do. They're a more knowledgeable bunch, on average, than they used to be. This does not mean that we can just plaster whatever guarantee we want on the schedule and have it hit. People aren't sitting at their computer hovering over the register button. There's just less people. This is what I mean when I always say that high stakes players are a fickle group and better served by promotions rather than the daily schedule. Because of this, I am lukewarm on the idea of a monthly/quarterly high stakes tournament placed on the schedule with no promotion, so long as it doesn't clash with a live event or another tournament promotion.

Well, it is my responsibility to manage all of these tournaments. I'd argue that you should care very much about what happens in the rest of the schedule.

Nor would they ever. I'd like another $1,050, $500K guarantee too!

This is not a common occurrence in the grand scheme of things. I get your argument--you want more tournaments on Tuesdays/Thursdays and you believe that these days can support more than one major. I'm not opposed to this.

They're not withering. The Super Tuesday/Thrill saw only a small reduction in average players in the past year. Again, I do not fundamentally disagree that if I have your attention, I should likely throw more high stakes tournaments in your face. The issue is that I think you vastly overestimate how successful these tournaments can be on a daily/weekly basis because it is not 2008 anymore. Hopefully I'll eat crow.

I reiterate this fairly often in this thread, but the only tournaments on our weekly schedule that rely on satellites to hit guarantees are the Sunday Million and Sunday Storm. Satellites do not create demand.

It isn't a fight. I do not have time at the moment to add them and monitor their performance. I'm planning to try them in the new schedule.

All of my push back when it comes to the minis is with the aim of providing context and tempering expectations.

They would not be successful on a daily basis if you believe that success is having only tournaments where players dream of hitting it big.

Your view does not represent the view of our millions of unique MTT players. I do not know how to put this any other way.

Also, I am proud of the progress that has been made in the past year!

This is not a significant sample size.

This is true, online cannot provide you with what you want on a regular basis.

That reason being high stakes tournaments with large guarantees. These cannot happen on a weekly basis based on what you've outlined as exciting. I think the most likely positive outcome that you should argue for is more high stakes tournament promotions. I, too, think the WCOOP Challenge was a good promotion.

Thanks for the feedback.

We have functionality to pay out players in non-final Phases. In theory, we could create a tournament where you receive a min cash for making it through Phase 1, then some more money after Phase 2, etc.

I am not sure such an ambitious tournament could be supported by the regular schedule.

We do not have any "best stack forward" or "sacrifice your stack" mechanics available.

Very unlikely to happen, sorry.


Can you guarantee that 166 of your friends will play every day as well?

If you ever have specific examples of favourites disappearing, please let me know.

Feedback noted, thanks.

What price do you think would be most successful for a mini-Tuesday and mini-Thrill? I have a feeling I'll take the under.

Thanks for the feedback and kind words!

There will be improvements at off-peak time zones in the new schedule.

Thanks for the feedback. I'll pass on the suggestion to have more representatives. Seems an appropriate time to mention that while I do communicate with other departments and pass on your feedback, I am ultimately only responsible for the main tournament schedule.

I still like the idea of progressive guarantees. No plans for implementation yet, though. A really nice time to suggest such a thing as we all seem to be arguing about supply and demand.

Please see my reply to LostOstrich below.

Thank you very much! I'll be staggering a few start times and we've made other changes this week as well. Please let me know if you see improvement this Sunday.

Technically, we can do this. I think it is a good suggestion. I'll make a note to design a new time bank.

What did you like about it?

Likely not until the week of 8 February. TCOOP increases traffic in the main schedule, so looking now would produce skewed results. I'm using this time to complete some other pressing tasks.

Thanks for the feedback all.

As for pushing people to play in various tourneys... look at the satelllites offerings to bounty MTT's. Look at the guarantees/promotion dedicated to them. Six months ago these tourneys didn't even exist so the demand was manufactured by Pstars. These tourneys provide Stars with a higher margin due to recycled rake as more people get a bit of their buy in back.

Wanted to post this long time ago but didn't post for some reason.

Too many $7.50 and $8.80 buy in turbo tourneys at time slot 17:00-21:45

And look at turbo schedule(all turbo nlhe mtts from 2.20 to 11 9max) from 06:45 to 11:30 ET

Don't you think there are too many $7.50 and $8.80 9m turbo mtts at time slot 17:00-21:45(and very close to each other) but none at time slot 07:30-15:45?

24 hr Turbo Schedule($2.20-$11 9max):

Yeah i think what Party did with daily 500$ is risky too. They don't seem to mind paying overlay as much as you do .

However a/some special tournaments for tuesday/thursday will be pretty much risk free i suppose. Something like WCOOP challenge would be way more fun and pbb risk averse than a monthly 2k. I'm awaiting what you're planning!.

Luke, what about changing the dying tournies that u promised?
1630 55 deepstack, 1745 55ko, 1915 55 reentry...theres problably more of those

Last 4-5 days, Daily $27 NL 2-7SD has got cancelled almost every day, why not change its time slot from 11:45 to 13:45 and see how it does??

Had an idea for a new series of majors that I think could be really popular amongst recs. My idea is to include something like "The Deal" on full tilt into specific tournaments. This is kind of similar to spin & go's but with less variance, I hope. Structure goes something like this: $9+1+1.

$9 to the tournament prize pool, $1 to rake, and then finally $1 to a lottery prize pool that a random table will be selected. I think randomly selecting a table compared to offering it to people who make the final table will appeal more to recs. Which ultimately means more money going into the prizepool. I think it also needs to be a realistic chance of winning, something like each player at the randomly selected table having something like a 2% chance shot at winning. Call it "The Suck Out" and the lottery round is set up so that the player holds 22 and is up against AA and the board is A2KK and they have the choice of selecting the remaining cards (like the deal on full tilt.), if they hit a 2 to make quads they win, then they get the jackpot lottery. If no one wins, then it rolls over.

whats the point of paying 200+ people in a 1500 player event in the ultra super knockout progressive thing when they get $208 for a $700 buy in. Just keep all of those pay outs and pay more for deeper in the mtt imo.

OK Jason, I've got to cherry pick because it is simply too long to quote again.



In my opinion, the current state of the high stakes tournament scene is:

• The daily high stakes tournaments are not as well-participated as they used to be. It is worth noting that the cost of entering these tournaments has significantly increased in the past year as the dollar has strengthened.
  Players in the $109-$320 range are likely more price sensitive than those at the $1,000+ range.
  
  see this is where having too much data can be a hinderance to you seeing the whole picture. In the above example, you seem to coorelate lower participation in high stakes daily tournaments with the strength of the dollar which would indicate that people at these buyins are super price sensitive and therefore your schedule is suficient for current demand. I would look at the above and say it is way more likely that the daily participation in high stakes tournaments are down because the daily schedule sucks. These same players you reference don't seem to have an issue coming up with buyins to live events that cost 1 and 2k euros on average and you think they are avoiding clicking registration in droves because they now have to pay 100 euros for the big 109 instead of 90 euros. these players don't click register because there is nothing to excite them in the daily schedule, they would rather take the day off. we show up on tuesdays and thursdays because there is more than just the typical schedule on offer. now i expect this answer because you run teh entire schedule and i bet at lower stakes where these incremental fluctuations are a greater part of that players bankroll, this issue is actually much more of a concern and responsible for the reductions, but I can tell you this is the first time i've heard it mentioned, figure it would have been brought up many times by others if it was an issue
  
• The weekly high stakes tournaments (Thrill/Tuesday) have performed well compared to the above daily tournaments.
  
  of course these tournaments have performed well. its because we are degens chasing big scores so we still show up on tuesdays and thursdays. but once again i think you are looking at the data incorrectly. you look at the numbers for super tuesday and see them holding steady or up slightly and then make the assumption that tuesday is healthy longterm.. however, if you ask the question, is the avg amount of time a player is engaged on pokerstars on a tuesday less or more than it was two years ago, the answer is less and if you ask the question how is the health of the tournaments surrounding the super tuesday specifically the tournament schedule in the 2 to 3 hours after the super tuesday and the answer is that timeslot is dying and underperforming, than it becomes clear what is happening on tuesdays/thursdays. your current strategy has basically just encouraged everyone to play much smaller sessions. we log on sometime before 109 rebuy ends if we want to play decent amount of stuff or much later if we miss it, basically we log in hour before super tuesday and stay logged on for couple hours after. now why does stars encourage this strategy on tuesdays and thursdays but on sundays they encourage the player to register several hours before the "main events" starting off with the kickoff before even beginning the warmup, and then continuing to build the schedule with a major all the way out to the second chance and the supersonic... so super tue and thrill will always perform as the guarantees are always enough to attract but tue and thur as a whole are not healthy. there is no need to continue to only have one day a week that encourages an entire day committment. tue and thur can easily be built out in a sustainable way that makes it so people log on from beginning to end on those days.
  
  
• Live festivals continue to draw strong high stakes crowds. This results in the high stakes crowd leaving a smaller footprint in the daily/weekly schedule. They still come for the championship series, but there is a lot of variance in week to week performance.
• SCOOP/WCOOP/high stakes promotions perform well.

this is simply an excuse imo. there is plenty of downtime inbetween festivals where daily/weekly numbers are still poor. these same players all have stars accounts and can easily log on and play. you simply underestimate how much players dislike the current offerings online on a daily/weekly basis. of course scoop/wcoop does well..you guys put up big gtds and people can chase dreams. pros can justify travel expenses.

This isn't meant to counter anything you've written, I'm just providing my perspective.



I think you're mistaken. The game has matured and the average skill of all players has risen. This does not mean that all players who can spell poker have dreams of hitting it big on a daily basis. If this was the case, we'd have far fewer tournaments on the schedule.

disagree with you completely.. if i was wrong, spin n go's would not be the most popular form of poker on stars. they are simply because people are chasing dreams, dreams of hitting that jackpot. people always want to hit it big and thats why this tuesday blue all the numbers out of the water. 888 could have easily put a 600 or 1k on the schedule yet they took a chance nd put a 1500 on there on tuesday and it smashed expectations. the reason imo why you still see players on a daily basis in the grind when huge prizes are not on offer is simple. some do not have huge bankrolls and need to play on these days to build up bankrolls to take the bigger shots. some are value seekers and know that these days are much softer and they can justify the lower prizes for the much softer environment to build bankrolls at lower variance. a lot of guys use these days to cover the bills and build shot takes. these days only exist those because the big days exist. its an ecosystem..make no mistake tho, the draw of tournament poker is always chasing big scores..


I don't understand your argument here. Of course they do. They're a more knowledgeable bunch, on average, than they used to be. This does not mean that we can just plaster whatever guarantee we want on the schedule and have it hit. People aren't sitting at their computer hovering over the register button. There's just less people. This is what I mean when I always say that high stakes players are a fickle group and better served by promotions rather than the daily schedule. Because of this, I am lukewarm on the idea of a monthly/quarterly high stakes tournament placed on the schedule with no promotion, so long as it doesn't clash with a live event or another tournament promotion.

i'm not arguing that we should make the daily schedule much different. i always thought that some days are bigger than others and it should be that way. what i am screaming is that you guys are highly underutilizing tuesdays and thursdays so much so that you have conditioned your users to just login an hour or so before the main event of the day and then stay until they bust said main event couple hours later. you have a prime opportunity to capture that user much earlier in the session and keep him much later whether or not he has busted the main event. tue and thur will always be bigger than monday and friday. everyone is ok with that. But so much under utlization on tuesday and thursday. What i will argue until i'm blue in the face is that the current environment will easily support one super day and two mini super days a week. and there is no reason to not get the most out of those days that you can

Well, it is my responsibility to manage all of these tournaments. I'd argue that you should care very much about what happens in the rest of the schedule.

once again, i think its a huge mistake to have one person run all 3 subsections of the tournament schedule. our needs, wants and motivations are not aligned at all and its a tough job to ask one person to understand all of the differences and constantly keep them in mind while developing the schedule.

Nor would they ever. I'd like another $1,050, $500K guarantee too!



This is not a common occurrence in the grand scheme of things. I get your argument--you want more tournaments on Tuesdays/Thursdays and you believe that these days can support more than one major. I'm not opposed to this.



They're not withering. The Super Tuesday/Thrill saw only a small reduction in average players in the past year. Again, I do not fundamentally disagree that if I have your attention, I should likely throw more high stakes tournaments in your face. The issue is that I think you vastly overestimate how successful these tournaments can be on a daily/weekly basis because it is not 2008 anymore. Hopefully I'll eat crow.

it is so much the other way around its not even funny. You guys so highly underestimate how big a sustainable tuesday and thursday could be. I am not suggesting these should be daily offerings across the schedule. These should be tuesday and thursday specific tournaments that only run on those days. tuesday thursday and sunday can all be big. i'm not suggesting that tue/thur should encroach on the crown jewel that is sunday but each day could easily be 40% of a sunday. I mean do you guys honestly think sunday is such a special day? in fact, most of us hate that you guys chose sunday as the big day because its a big sports day, but thats the day that you guys put all the big prizes up so thats the day we clear on the calendar. it used to be this way for tuesdays..i'm just trying to get that back. no its not 2008 anymore and sites are way more cautious, but it is 2016 and it 2016 high stakes poker is still pretty healthy. people are firing but don't have the patience they used to. they won't battle it out for peanuts anymore. when you offer them opportunities to make good money, they show up. its that simple.


I reiterate this fairly often in this thread, but the only tournaments on our weekly schedule that rely on satellites to hit guarantees are the Sunday Million and Sunday Storm. Satellites do not create demand.

once again i have a bigger picture in my mind. i don't want satellites to drive demand. I want them to drive excitement. see if i was running tuesdyas, the first thing i would do is to have a mega satty that awarded say 70 seats or w/e for say a 109 buyin with a bunch of feeder systems for that satty. now..why do i want this? will eventually someone who won their way into the 109 for say 5 bux is going to win the super tuesday and the publicity that that is going to buy you is going to be priceless and this publicity will drive demand. Secondly, sattelittes don't drive demand, but they do drive additional participation. the bigger the buyin of tournament and satty, the more they drive the particpation. this was easily seen in the 50k super high roller that was held online recently. there were a few sattys to it including a 25k fpp and a 5k. two recreational players won there way in via the satties. this led to an additional 4 to 8 players signing up for the 50k that were on the fence. seeing 70 guys win their way into the super tuesday can definitely make a reg put the super tuesday on his must play every week schedule.

It isn't a fight. I do not have time at the moment to add them and monitor their performance. I'm planning to try them in the new schedule.

All of my push back when it comes to the minis is with the aim of providing context and tempering expectations.

tbh i don't understand the pushback but am excited you are opening to try them in new schedule. they were a huge success and everyone loved them. they would make a great addition to the schedule, help brighten up a sunday that is starting to look old on the outside and were all buyins that wouldn't crush most budgets to add them to their weekly rotation. they also created a buzz and was a good link between midstakes and highstakes. they are just an easy home run whenever you feel like going up to the plate, thats all..



They would not be successful on a daily basis if you believe that success is having only tournaments where players dream of hitting it big.

see above comments where i believe most people do dream of hitting it big and thats primarily why they play..the sessions that they play outside of that only help to support the dream chasing.

Tuesdays could easily be made amazing by doing the following:

50 dollar rebuy with 80k gtd big antes..blinds escalate thru long rebuy period then return to normal at addon. this starts one hour and half before super tuesday.

109 super tuesday mega sat 70 package gtd...could eventually add satties that award package to both super and 2nd chance.

stop being lazy with other super tuesday sattys. why do we have 82's and 55's and 109's launching with one seat gtd when they are always like 5 seats or more. you have the data, this just seems lazy. by relabling these as 5 and 10 seat gtds, they will grow even more.

250 or 320 Super Tuesday 2nd chance with ~300k gtd starting one hour after super tuesday

take the 320 6max on tuesdays and call it tuesday edition. throw 75k gtd on it.

add a 320 ultra deep turbo with good gtd to the schedule. at the same time launch a mini turbo with 55 buy in and good gtd.

add a 109 150k one rentry 10k starting stack blinds start 50/100.

holy mother of god. How you like dem apples, Luke? FILIBUSTERED

Sounds so good.

Well, jdpc wins this thread

+1

the same is true for the Saturday $215 PLO8 and Sunday $215 NLO8. Ever since you have moved them to start early they've declined a lot. High Stakes MTT need to start closer to prime time.

Was thinking along the line of a $162 buyin for these. 888 have had alot of their XXL series at this buyin with great results and it seems to be a underused buyin on stars. Speaking as a own diming professional i would play these every week but the 1k buyins are a bit too steep without being backed. Could award the final 9 seats to the main ST/TT as well to give more people a chance to play 1k buyins and improve the field overall.

What is going on with the ability to see 90mans / 45mans etc in the MTT SNG filters since its so annoying having to switch tabs all the time?

215r on a withered friday with no other good tcoop reached 440k from a 300k gtd.... i think JDT is correct.

also watch as traffic declines greatly throughout the day as people bust that tcoop...me, im one tabling the 215 big antes tcoop and when thats done, i'm done. pretty sure that was most people's strategy today..fire the 215 r and if still in fire the 215 big antes and then go enjoy the day. if people weren't chasing big scores and were happy with today's offerings and the gtd's on them, wouldn't they fire up an entire session? The ebb and flow of traffic today directly supports everything i've been saying.

edit: now 10 am on the west coast of the world and i just busted 215 tcoop. lets see...i can play a 100 rebuy with a 15k gtd which attracts only 62 players on a tcoop day. oh, theres also a big 109 with a 15-20k lower gtd than what i am used to seeing. oh joy...let me fire up a whole miserable friday where i risk 4k to try to win 4k in some of the better scenarios. instead, i'm going to go watch mindless tv and eventually go out for lunch and stumble into some activity to do because i'm bored.

once again..when you have a guy who loves poker setting his alarm for 645 am so he can play a 215 rebuy while knocking cobwebs out of his head...when you have that player unregging and logging off stars by 10am when he woke up at an ungodly hour specifically to be engaged on pokerstars. when you give that player no motivation or reason to stay online after only 3 hours when he went to sleep early last night specifically to wake up and play on stars, you have a huge problem. you can continue to look at data and intrepret it 40 different ways. Me, I will continue to look at players motivations, time engaged, comments and the "stickiness" of the stars app. And if you look at it from that point of view, the data supports my arguements.

the only thing we really disagree on is the reason. Luke and stars think that demand has left the building and players have left the planet. Me and many other players think that stars is running its high stakes tournament schedule into the ground and is personally responsible for a decent amount of the reductions the data is showing.

Almost every live EPT event just crushes. the 1ks and 2ks in barcelona and prague did record numbers. the high rollers are almost all up on numbers across the board. every time you have a special promotion or wccop/sccop etc, the gtds you guys set always get blown out of the water. I just can't buy the arguement that everyone has left and turned off the lights when its the same players live that also play online. all of these players have stars accounts. We haven't left, we have simply changed behaviors. Years ago, most of us would battle it out in midstakes and small highstakes tournaments to win 3-5k up top. These tournaments were soft and often if you made the final table, winning 1st or 2nd was almost a lock. you could justify playing these tournaments because you would win them a huge amount of the time that you final tabled. also the weekly schedule across sites was way more expensive. it used to cost me upwards of 40k-60k a month just to cover my online buyins. there were 3 1ks a week across sites and many high stakes offerings plus ftops and party series, etc. In today's environment the final tables are much tougher and variance higher. It seems way less worth it to battle it out for 3-5k top prize when i'm going to take 7th about as much as i take 2nd and my game is continuing to be exposed to other good players for not much upside. At least when my hands are seen or showndown during the super tuesday, i have a chance to be rewarded 100k for that exposure to my game.

look at all the data you want, but i've been around and totally immersed in this game for the last 12 years. Give us a reason to play and isn't it funny, we always show up. Yet because I'd rather go out to movies/lunch on a friday than play a 100 rebuy with a withered 15k against 62 other players where i personally know about 30 of them just seems exactly what it is, withered.

people haven't left in droves, we just go to where the excitement and big money is. and apart from a special series and sundays, you barely give us a reason to show up. Tuesdays and thursdays are just barely hanging on as it is and you can't keep overusing the ko/sko/pko format to keep them breathing. They are simply band aids for the real problem. the schedule and gtds were run very rigid in the past.

Gtds were set by the worst performing day of the week. This killed organic growth, not helped it. gtds were the same across all days of the week and to not have a huge overlay on mon and fri, you guys kinda killed off the entire week as a whole.

give us more high stakes tournaments on tue/thur/ and some minis on sundays and watch the excitement and engagement come back.

seems funny they say that demand isn't there but everytime a series throws a big gtd on it, it smashes. Even take live for example. right after pca, there was a poker series at hardrock in florida. i would never normally go as their main event was a 1k and i would have to change my flight to make it, so costs wouldn't normally justify it. however, they threw a 1 million dollar gtd on it. and you know what happened, people came out of the woodwork and south florida hosted the biggest 1k that they have EVER ran. What was so different than any other 1k's they have ran? simply the guarantee.

thats why i'm saying that you don't have to just have huge buyins on the schedule...buyins that target midstakes can also pull in both groups but the gtd and format of the tournament has to be good for both groups.

it seems counterintuitive that every ept is crushing and all big gtd live events blow past expectations but that online is some completely different beast suffering through huge withdrawals. It is my arguement that this pain is self inflicted and can be fixed.

i'm begging to be proven wrong. Just start with Tuesdays and actually make tuesday a super tuesday. build out the schedule and see the response. If i'm wrong, the response will be medium and will trail off after a few weeks. But what if i'm right? see when u give a guy just one tournament say the super tuesday he then weighs that against whatever else he could be doing that day. maybe he got invited to a dinner or to go out with mates. when you give that same person a schedule to play..then they have to weigh the entire schedule vs whatever opportunity cost they have. for many years, i never missed a sunday or tuesday unless i was playing live or had a near death in the family. I rescheduled key events around the stars schedule. nowadays, if i miss a tuesday who cares. Sundays still pull decent amount of weight and still play into consideration when scheduling flights, life, etc. but not nearly as much. Just a few years ago, you would have me delaying a flight for a day or two cuz no way i would miss.

the only part of stars that still has this amount of "stickiness" with players is the live events. Most of us plan our year around those events cuz each one can change your life. We still mark our calendars for wcoop/scoop and we only really care about the two sundays during tcoop.

in fact, while on teh subject, tcoop is a perfect example. The schedule was not that great overall which just led me to follow my normal routine. play tue/thur/sun take off mon, wed, fri and saturdays are optional. only thing tcoop got me to modify all week was to fire a 3 hour session this morning. now, lets be clear..after traveling and playing live a bunch, i flew home to mexico specifically to play online and play tcoop. yet even tho i'm at home with this goal, you still have me skipping several days of one of your "series". this would have never been the case in the past. i skipped aussie millions and a wpt and am now beginning to regret both.

Hey Stars reps, listen to jdpc, he knows what he's talking about. I've heard similar gripes from others.

And raise the guarantees, don't be such giant chickens. People will come, they always do.

No risk, no reward.

Wow, I was just going to suggest you to add ulta deep timebomb tourneys with 50k starting stack, 3 min levels, starting blinds 500/1000 200 antes, and I already see you're testing timebomb tourneys with 5k ss, 2min levels and that too 6 max and zoom tourney which is super rec friendly. I loved playing it. Hope to see more of it!

I hated 1500 starting stack and 9max format. Imo you should make all timebomb tourneys zoom and 6 max and ofc increase their starting stack. Maybe you should also test 50k starting stack and 30 mins duration. I'd play these everytime

rake way too fkn high in those. wtf 15 min duration 15bb stacks and charge 10% gtfo