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01-24-2016 , 12:08 AM
Little question: binked a satelite for the Sunday Million earlier today. But i see there is an 215 TCOOP event also tomorrow night, same buyin as the million.

Would you guys think its the best value for me to play the million or to unregister and play the TCOOP event instead?

I have played the milly before and know its good structure and big starting stack. But maybe the field is even softer in the TCOOP tourney?
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01-24-2016 , 12:17 AM
million ainec
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01-24-2016 , 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Aguskb
make the withered 55t reentry a 55t super ko
+1

That tournament is terrible. Make it a $55 turbo Super KO with no re-entry.
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01-24-2016 , 02:55 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerStars Luke
[*]A main schedule “reformat”. The schedule is still too large. It will be further simplified and altered in 2016.[*]The implementation of dynamic structures. I am seriously excited about the implications of this functionality! Imagine a typical freezeout but the levels are eight minutes in length, then 10 minutes once the money is reached, 12 minutes at the final three tables, and 15 minutes at the final table. The ability to lengthen the excitement of going deep in a tournament in a dynamic way has a lot of potential.
Hi Luke,

Thanks for being so on top of things in this thread.

I like narrowing the schedule down and getting rid of MTTs that don't have good draws or that are not popular, it makes the lobby less crowded and can help you focus on improving current tournament structures and creating a few new tournaments that can be very successful.

I really like the idea of the variable tournaments and think you should definitely be implementing this into all turbos at the very least the hots. We pay the same in rake for turbo tournaments and if you aren't going to consider lowering the rake in a tournament that takes 1/3rd to 1/4th of the time of a regular tournament and takes up less resources on your servers than I don't think it's too much to ask you make the structure towards the end of these tournaments a bit better without changing the 5 minute levels at the beginning.

I have a few suggestions that may or may not be popular that include changing the big $100 rebuy on Sunday to 1 hour later as I think it would attract a few more people and the daily 100 rebuys during the week could be moved back an hour later as well. I'd like to see some tournaments for midstakes guys that usually play up to $215s and want to make that next jump have some opportunities to play some tourneys that are not 4x their highest buy in during the week. I'd love to see a tournament like the Sunday 500 turned into the Sunday 1k as the vast majority of people that play this tournament on a Sunday would be fine with it being a 1k and many midstakes guys would prefer to take a shot in a bigger tournament during the week when they don't have 12-16 tables running. Maybe turning that Sunday tourney into a 1k and making one of the midweek tourneys a $500 would be an option?

Also is there anyway to make the Wednesday $320 an earlier tournament, even replacing the Big 162 with it and just keeping the nightly $162. I think most players would like to play that tournament but it's at a time where a lot of players just aren't going to keep playing just to play it in the late evening or middle of the night.

Any updates on if you are going to run a Daily Big $215? And I know Amaya is all about that rake but we can we please bring back some rebuy options in between $10 and $100. Start with like a weekly $20 or $50 rebuy and throw it in red to promote it and see what kind of turn out it gets. I am pretty sure you could make this a great tournament. And that $50 turbo rebuy big antes is kind of a joke so let's not use that as an example of why rebuys are not doing well, just change this time to way earlier and make it a decent GTD with a variable structure or something.
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01-24-2016 , 03:28 AM
Can you please tell us exact dates for scoop?

Bryan left this role to Luke so he could focus on tcoop/scoop/WCOOP. Surely if he's devoting his entire time to this we should be able to get dates ASAP?
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01-24-2016 , 03:33 AM
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Originally Posted by CaliStyle
Hi Luke,

Thanks for being so on top of things in this thread.

I like narrowing the schedule down and getting rid of MTTs that don't have good draws or that are not popular, it makes the lobby less crowded and can help you focus on improving current tournament structures and creating a few new tournaments that can be very successful.

I really like the idea of the variable tournaments and think you should definitely be implementing this into all turbos at the very least the hots. We pay the same in rake for turbo tournaments and if you aren't going to consider lowering the rake in a tournament that takes 1/3rd to 1/4th of the time of a regular tournament and takes up less resources on your servers than I don't think it's too much to ask you make the structure towards the end of these tournaments a bit better without changing the 5 minute levels at the beginning.

I have a few suggestions that may or may not be popular that include changing the big $100 rebuy on Sunday to 1 hour later as I think it would attract a few more people and the daily 100 rebuys during the week could be moved back an hour later as well. I'd like to see some tournaments for midstakes guys that usually play up to $215s and want to make that next jump have some opportunities to play some tourneys that are not 4x their highest buy in during the week. I'd love to see a tournament like the Sunday 500 turned into the Sunday 1k as the vast majority of people that play this tournament on a Sunday would be fine with it being a 1k and many midstakes guys would prefer to take a shot in a bigger tournament during the week when they don't have 12-16 tables running. Maybe turning that Sunday tourney into a 1k and making one of the midweek tourneys a $500 would be an option?

Also is there anyway to make the Wednesday $320 an earlier tournament, even replacing the Big 162 with it and just keeping the nightly $162. I think most players would like to play that tournament but it's at a time where a lot of players just aren't going to keep playing just to play it in the late evening or middle of the night.

Any updates on if you are going to run a Daily Big $215? And I know Amaya is all about that rake but we can we please bring back some rebuy options in between $10 and $100. Start with like a weekly $20 or $50 rebuy and throw it in red to promote it and see what kind of turn out it gets. I am pretty sure you could make this a great tournament. And that $50 turbo rebuy big antes is kind of a joke so let's not use that as an example of why rebuys are not doing well, just change this time to way earlier and make it a decent GTD with a variable structure or something.


Agree with all of this. So many players I know are playing substantial volume away from stars. Party having a daily $109 50k speaks volumes I think. There's 4 $109s on party, bunch of 55s on 888. People don't want to play on these sites, they'd love to play everything in one site, it's a lot easier that way but there's just very limited options for mid-high stakes. Making b162 the Wednesday 320 sounds good, literally no reason to open stars/grind on Wednesdays right now.

Really think the 109r would be way better hour later too. You said you don't want two 109s in the lobby at the same time. Make it 1 hour 15 minutes later then if that's really an issue. Or potentially make it $90
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01-24-2016 , 01:54 PM
timebanks too short in turbo mtts

only 15 seconds bank for 2r x2 turbo for example
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01-24-2016 , 02:29 PM
lag today horrendous for me. anybody else?
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01-24-2016 , 02:33 PM
Yep - 1st Sunday I've played in months and lag has hit hard in the last 30 mins or so
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01-24-2016 , 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by OurSurveySays
lag today horrendous for me. anybody else?
Yes.
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01-24-2016 , 02:49 PM
Didnt face any lag till now
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01-24-2016 , 02:52 PM
almost every decision lagging 2-3 minimum seconds for me
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01-24-2016 , 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by OurSurveySays
lag today horrendous for me. anybody else?
yeap, lagging hard for me too.

and both my lobbies were stuck for several minutes, not showing the players' number & ranks right (the left part of the lobby with avg stack, break time etc was working)
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01-24-2016 , 03:55 PM
my lobby won't show running tournaments or those late regging?
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01-24-2016 , 09:36 PM
nevermind, sorted
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01-24-2016 , 09:50 PM
no lags at all for me today
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01-24-2016 , 09:56 PM
1. More good touranments around big 162, it gets pretty airish around that time.

2. WHY NO MINIS?? just a joke such an easy layup

3. Six max Bounty builders. This is an easy layup.
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01-24-2016 , 10:07 PM
Can we get more timebank for people who live in 3rd world countries?

I am not even kidding. Life is already hard enough for most folks who live in Asia/Africa/Canada etc.
If you want to grow your market in Africa it is definitely something to consider!!
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01-24-2016 , 10:35 PM
getting tons of lag every time a new table opens. beyond ridiculous
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01-25-2016 , 01:38 AM
Definitely need a daily $27 pko zoom 4 max tourney. Seems like a blast
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01-25-2016 , 09:13 AM
Keep Wednesday 320 where it is. No reason why everything good should only be focused on peak time. If it's too late for you to play then fine, don't play it.
It gets a great field and is at a great time for a lot of Asia pacific players, people who already have so little to look forward to after the b162.
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01-25-2016 , 10:04 AM
Something wrong with sync break in bounty builder 8.80? Even after 6 mins, Break was showing "Starting soon" ??
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01-25-2016 , 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by LittleGoliath
Apparantly the 11r at 21 cet is on the rebound with the new structure. On sunday it reached a 62k pricepool. Seems like the new structure is getting on well
Glad to hear! This one was changed back in October according to my notes.

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Originally Posted by bansky11
im rooting for more nlo8 hypers. the pool is growing and growing, its a good chance for the economy of all games.
I've just looked at a query for 2015 from when the additional tournaments were added until now. I looked at all NLO8 tournaments for low and medium stakes ($5.00-$99.99). Over the course of the year, these games have increased in size by approximately 10%.

So, I've heard you all loud and clear that you want more NLO8 hyper-turbos. How do you respond to my reasoning that turbo structures, with their longer late registration, would better serve to accelerate the growth of these games?

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Originally Posted by jaze
Pls don't, they're fine as they are IMO. Though I think you should remove one or two MTTSNGs in the night to provide more traffic to the other ones, e.g. 2.50 90-man is almost never starting after 22:00 CET. On Demand SNGs are a great idea to fix the nightly MTTSNG schedule.
Just so you all know, I pass all of the SNG feedback on to Baard and give it due consideration myself.

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Originally Posted by davidv1213
then please replace some existing 3x turbos with 4x, the playing experience in them is far superior (don't see how you could argue the other side even). All the feedback I found is agreeing also
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=1192
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=2066
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=2065



maybe we could have a mod close the other 2 threads and link to this one so that people don't waste their time posting in the wrong place?
I don't think it would be all that hard to find players on this forum who agree that they prefer this format. If you think that the 3x-turbo structure is lacking some levels or can be improved upon without changing the length of the rebuy period, I'm open to suggestions.

It looks as though the mods have locked the non-NLHE thread. It is up to them whether they lock the 2013 satellite thread as well.

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Originally Posted by DoGGz
Just tossing my hat into the ring of "I enjoy SKOs". It's different because of how much you win for KOs at the start.

It's OK to have different formats, especially when they are popular. the 22 and 10.5sko are wildly popular so I don't see why changing them is required. tbh I'd love to see another one somewhere on the daily schedule.
I appreciate the point of the knockouts being more important early in a SKO as opposed to a PKO. This provides some alternative strategy adjustments that may not be as prevalent in PKOs. That said, I'm not sure if we'll have more SKO in the new schedule.

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Originally Posted by Top Pig
Can anyone tell me why I don't get the option to re-enter any re-entry????????? o.OOOOOOO
Can you provide more details?

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Originally Posted by keitho1986
The $109 sat at 11:49 to the super tues wit 5 seats guaranteed- make it pink, double the starting stack, triple the guarantee and stick a fancy name on it
The Super Tuesday will likely have pink satellites in the new schedule.

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Originally Posted by iamslayer666
hello @pokerstars luke,
I must say that the communication you have been giving us is great and appreciated. please continue this.

I would like to know yur thoughts

We've now run a full week of $1.10 and $7.50 Bounty Builders without hybridization. Their participation increased 8.1% and 6.8% respectively. We'll likely be removing the hybridization from Bounty Builders until we are able to control how they are visible in the client. This change will take some time due to requiring an update to web content and all of the tournament scripts.

in an earlier quote from you,... you say something along the lines of the minis wouldn't perform as well because of the promo and tickets added......

the data suggests that bb's without tickets are successful.

perhaps this translates that minis to to st/tt/kick off/wu/million could perform well even without promo tickets.
I would really like for you to rethink your stance on the minis and for 1 week add them to the schedule and see what data suggests.
the demand is here for them.
not like it would hurt anything.

would like to add my disappointment that micro million isint running until july.

but am very happy to say that I suffered no lag on sunday and actually played some mtts.
The issue with Bounty Builders was caused by filters. They were showing up as satellites for many players and thus weren't visible. The Mini-Majors used milestone functionality which did not label them as satellites in the lobby.

Regardless, I think the 900,000+ emails had a lot to do with it as well.

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Originally Posted by playr
so really nothing to expect as a micor/low player till July? no, i think SCOOP is not fit with this buyinrange ($2-$16.50). please tell us why at least, this is your biggest player base, thnaks
The main schedule reformat that I'm currently planning will give micro-stakes players a better schedule.

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Originally Posted by FlipMaster08
early 11r still w 2,5k addon.
I took care of this. Thanks!

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Originally Posted by sunnydunerz
Would it be possible at all to implement something so that in rebuy tournaments we instantly rebuy as soon as we enter? Late regging and being dealt cards immediately without the option to rebuy is sometimes very tilting
It would be possible, but unfortunately a niche feature like this is unlikely to be implemented.

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Originally Posted by streityboy
Hi stars reps.

I used to play a reasonable amount of 08 sngs. When you introduced hypers it immediately became the most popular 08 format. With the destruction of BoPs, the introduction of Spin and Goes and the awful rakeback structures, personally I have gone from semi rec/reg to barely a rec. It does make me sad there isn't much incentive for me to play anywhere near as much as i used to play on Stars.

What us recs want though is a quick, easy and enjoyable format and that is hypers across the board whether that is mtts or sngs. With the aim of encouraging more recs and reducing the gap in skill levels as a business strategy, hypers fits in perfectly with that model. The chance to win big through lower buy in regular hyper MTTs would make me play more.

Therefore, is there any reason why you don't want more 08 hypers on the MTT schedule?
I urge you to respond to my earlier reply in this post regarding turbo speed as opposed to hyper-turbo NLO8 tournaments.

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Originally Posted by FlipMaster08
b109 time slot to b11 is pretty dead for low stakes regular imo. Only 22 10k and 11 6k, put a 5r or 8r at 13:30ET and it will be the nuts. Gonna be a really good tournament.
Thanks for the feedback. Hopefully the new schedule has something for everyone!

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Originally Posted by fivetypes
That whole peak time slot needs looking at. Having it jammed full of turbos makes zero sense.
Will do.

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Originally Posted by Neilcaterham
Played the $4.40 PL courchevel hilo today at 08.05 WET.
Had about 115 runners BUT a ridiculous 24 players paid.
If 12 were paid there would be more $$ up top.
At the moment there is a better than 1 in 5 chance of cashing. Too high imo
This is a product of the pay table having very wide tiers. I've made a note of this and hopefully I'll be able to make some new pay tables for the non-NLHE games. Creating flexible pay tables for individual tournaments is quite tedious! Thanks for the useful feedback.

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Originally Posted by anuj22
https://www.pokerstars.com/poker/tournaments/

This page hasn't listed bounty builders yet.
No, but you can travel to the Bounty Builders content from each tournament lobby.

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Originally Posted by 22riverrat22
Well heres my initial request for them from february 2012
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=566
"itd be kinda cool if stars pioneered a new format of mtt where earlygame is all turbo speed and then at the final 3 tables (or 2 tables) it becomes regular speed

this would be a sick format esp if they were cubeds to allow rec players alot of chips to splash around with

lotta play early

doesnt take 6 hours to ft

room and time to play the most interesting fun and important part of the mtt


might take some tweaking but could be a huge hit"


and here is Bryan-PS confirming that stars was already planning on it in oct 2012
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=1717
" Having Variable Level Times is something we have planned, and once we have it available to us, I'm sure that we'll run some tournaments similar to what you describe."

So details may be released decembro 2019/2020
We already have variable level times. What we'll be implementing is similar to what you've suggested, but much more flexible.

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Originally Posted by FarseerFinland
In b4 more NLO8! Preferrable hypers or turbos. Current schedule during European evening is still very poor.

44$ turbo NLO8 added is ok, 82$ hyper NLO8 is ok, add both and it's great. Reason why NLO8 is NOT thriving is the poor offering (especially during European evening), not that people wouldn't want to play NLO8 tournaments.

Also weekly NLO8 hyper or turbo with some 109$ buy-in would be a great addition, let's say like PLO8 turbo in Saturdays around 22:00 CET and NLO8 hyper in Sundays around 23:00 CET.
Feedback noted! I am glad that it doesn't seem like you mind the idea of turbos.

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Originally Posted by 22riverrat22
hyper turbo re entry sats to event #2 not reentries, as has been the case with similar sats in the last 2 coops

#expected
Passed on to Bryan, thanks!

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Originally Posted by U shove i call
When you cash a bounty builder and get the email after it doesn't say how much you actually cashed for just the bounty amount.

LOL hardly a brag cashing a mtt just saying seems to be a bug

Only when u win the battle royal seat it seems. Checked some others when just min cashed and it said it then.

PokerStars Tournament #1444905721, No Limit Hold'em
Super Satellite
Buy-In: $100.00/$100.00/$15.00 USD
401 players
Total Prize Pool: $80200.00 USD
Target Tournament #1444905621 Buy-In: $109.00 USD
9 tickets to the target tournament

Tournament started 2016/01/21 15:15:00 WET [2016/01/21 10:15:00 ET]


Dear x

You finished the tournament in 5th place.

This qualifies you for a seat in Tournament #1444905621. A ticket to this tournament was issued in your name. You can use this ticket to register. See Tournament #1444905621 Lobby for further details.


You have also received USD x in Knockout Bounties for this tournament. You won bounties for the following players:
This likely has to do with the fact that the tournament is considered a satellite. I'll make a note of it. Thanks for bringing this up, it is very difficult to find the small edge cases such as this.

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Originally Posted by tjaalz
Luke, when will 10-game be introduced at Pokerstars? ( =8game + Badugi+NLsingledraw)

I remember 10-game on fulltilt before black friday and it was a lot of fun. Now 8-game has gained popularity why not start with 10-game?
Unlikely to be implemented any time soon, I'm afraid.

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Originally Posted by Kelvin Kerber
started my session late today, i got 9 tabbles 7 of them turbo, i get its the time most ppl r finishing them, i'm just asking for my 109 2r 1a that used to start right now and i'd have a nice deep tournament with a small field to be excited about. The only decent stuff is big162 that i regged with 12bbs

that timeslot need a fix
I agree that it does. We'll get there!

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Originally Posted by NoPointBluffing
seriously....doesn't need that many heads to figure out that having 1.10 BB and .55BB within one hour of each is just brainless, and then wonder why there are lags - if the microstakes are really so important to you, BRING BACK micromillions!!!
They will be split up in the future.

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Originally Posted by CaliStyle
Hi Luke,

Thanks for being so on top of things in this thread.

I like narrowing the schedule down and getting rid of MTTs that don't have good draws or that are not popular, it makes the lobby less crowded and can help you focus on improving current tournament structures and creating a few new tournaments that can be very successful.

I really like the idea of the variable tournaments and think you should definitely be implementing this into all turbos at the very least the hots. We pay the same in rake for turbo tournaments and if you aren't going to consider lowering the rake in a tournament that takes 1/3rd to 1/4th of the time of a regular tournament and takes up less resources on your servers than I don't think it's too much to ask you make the structure towards the end of these tournaments a bit better without changing the 5 minute levels at the beginning.

I have a few suggestions that may or may not be popular that include changing the big $100 rebuy on Sunday to 1 hour later as I think it would attract a few more people and the daily 100 rebuys during the week could be moved back an hour later as well. I'd like to see some tournaments for midstakes guys that usually play up to $215s and want to make that next jump have some opportunities to play some tourneys that are not 4x their highest buy in during the week. I'd love to see a tournament like the Sunday 500 turned into the Sunday 1k as the vast majority of people that play this tournament on a Sunday would be fine with it being a 1k and many midstakes guys would prefer to take a shot in a bigger tournament during the week when they don't have 12-16 tables running. Maybe turning that Sunday tourney into a 1k and making one of the midweek tourneys a $500 would be an option?

Also is there anyway to make the Wednesday $320 an earlier tournament, even replacing the Big 162 with it and just keeping the nightly $162. I think most players would like to play that tournament but it's at a time where a lot of players just aren't going to keep playing just to play it in the late evening or middle of the night.

Any updates on if you are going to run a Daily Big $215? And I know Amaya is all about that rake but we can we please bring back some rebuy options in between $10 and $100. Start with like a weekly $20 or $50 rebuy and throw it in red to promote it and see what kind of turn out it gets. I am pretty sure you could make this a great tournament. And that $50 turbo rebuy big antes is kind of a joke so let's not use that as an example of why rebuys are not doing well, just change this time to way earlier and make it a decent GTD with a variable structure or something.
Hey, thanks for the useful feedback here. Depending on how the dynamic structures are received, I've considered what you're suggesting with regards to the Hots. The Bigs will have 5,000 starting stacks, Bounty Builders are PKO, and the Hots are...just turbos. I think having slightly longer levels near the conclusion of the tournament would provide a better experience. Just a thought for now.

Do you think that the BATTLE ROYALE has made Wednesday a more attractive day? As far as Sunday goes, I do not have much of a plan yet. Any sort of ideas are still in play at this stage, so continue to fire away.

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Originally Posted by OurSurveySays
Can you please tell us exact dates for scoop?
SCOOP is tentatively scheduled for May. Bryan will provide final dates when they're available.

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Originally Posted by OurSurveySays
Agree with all of this. So many players I know are playing substantial volume away from stars. Party having a daily $109 50k speaks volumes I think. There's 4 $109s on party, bunch of 55s on 888. People don't want to play on these sites, they'd love to play everything in one site, it's a lot easier that way but there's just very limited options for mid-high stakes. Making b162 the Wednesday 320 sounds good, literally no reason to open stars/grind on Wednesdays right now.

Really think the 109r would be way better hour later too. You said you don't want two 109s in the lobby at the same time. Make it 1 hour 15 minutes later then if that's really an issue. Or potentially make it $90
I've been brainstorming with the team about ideas for new majors. Have any suggestions? You seem to be keen on ideas to mix things up for the high stakes players.

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Originally Posted by the_bridler
timebanks too short in turbo mtts

only 15 seconds bank for 2r x2 turbo for example
This is the first complaint I've received about shorter timebanks since the changes were implemented in late September/early October.

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Originally Posted by roscoe91
yeap, lagging hard for me too.

and both my lobbies were stuck for several minutes, not showing the players' number & ranks right (the left part of the lobby with avg stack, break time etc was working)
I'm going to follow up with the developers. The amount of detail above is very helpful because I can forward it on directly.

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Originally Posted by sunnydunerz
nevermind, sorted
It isn't uncommon for filters to momentarily befuddle us in the office...

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Originally Posted by rounder63
1. More good touranments around big 162, it gets pretty airish around that time.

2. WHY NO MINIS?? just a joke such an easy layup

3. Six max Bounty builders. This is an easy layup.
Ideas for new majors? #3 isn't going to happen.

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Originally Posted by sirluckbox
Definitely need a daily $27 pko zoom 4 max tourney. Seems like a blast
I'm glad you enjoyed it! I have a feeling this type of tournament would not fare so well as a daily offering.

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Originally Posted by anuj22
Something wrong with sync break in bounty builder 8.80? Even after 6 mins, Break was showing "Starting soon" ??
I haven't received any additional reports of this. Can you let me know if it happens again?

I appreciate the feedback as always, everyone. I'm currently in the very early stages of writing the new schedule, so it is a very good time to provide some pie-in-the-sky type ideas as I wrap my head around the task.
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01-25-2016 , 12:42 PM
When can we expect this new schedule?
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01-25-2016 , 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Alexo
When can we expect this new schedule?
Definitely not late December
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