So I want to play some reg speed vanilla tourneys at micro stakes (not KO).

Here's my time slot:



What the f-uck am I supposed to play? There's 2 bigs and a $1.10 that are basically turbos anyway and one supposed 'deep stack' that isn't even remotely deep. Look at those giant slabs of turbos and hypers. Absolutely disgusting.

just did a night session. turbo stars is ****. i find it funny that a huge chunk of the rake comes from regs and they are doing everything they can to piss them off. 888/party here i come.

Other then the rake I'm sure with a few additions to your current schedule this new tournament schedule is ****ing awesome.

Well done

This. I haven't had the chance to play yet, but I am perplexed by the fact that hypers are only 6 max now.

FWIW, I have no problem with 6 max per se, but I don't want to play them because it makes it tougher to multitable.

Also, I respect people who want their reg speed structures, but should you decide to make them slower, make sure there are enough actual turbos for the people who prefer them.

In general, I do have to say, I am somewhat skeptical of the new blind levels for one big reason. In the old days, you could look at the blind level and decide if the tourney was too fast or too slow or just right to your liking. That's not the case any more.

youve really killed off the the lowstakes grind. makes me a bit sad but allows me to focus more on midstakes elsewhere and increase my ABI

the time schedule from old big162 forwards is really slow, been downgrade there as well

really not liking the new structures either. you should work on more lenient use of VLT.

and another 2 thumbs down for your new payouts

you got some work to do


come onnnnnnnnn

What do you want added after the B215 lipo? What games what timeslots?

i thought the old schedule really thrived before in that time stretch in both low/mid turbos to close out a session. im missing several games now

if you want to play after 9pm EST now, theres not really much going on either, which really makes me want to wake up much earlier now, which im not opposed to. but think it really hurts the rec crowd in both canada/SA

the new schedule for people with a ~$20 avg buyin is maybe the worst thing i have ever seen in the history of online poker. from 1pm EST- 4pm est there is only 3 non turbo non bounty builder big field mtts, like wtf, and they only have 8min blind levels. pstars rep count me as someone you are currently getting 0$ per month rake from

OK. I do think there could be more games in the $5 to $10 range.

Go ahead and name a few tournaments you wish existed and place them on the schedule. Can't promise anything but ideas are most valuable.

yea loved to close the session with turbos. Couldn't find a window for that on the new schedule today.

Personally I don't really have a problem with PokerSTars killing the Low Stakes action are their site.

These games were overrun by weak semi/professional regs of which many are staked to play at these levels by all the large staking stables out there. These levels were really causing a lot of stagnation in the overall player pool imo. Maybe now more weaker regs and/or fish will take more shots at the mid to higher stakes.

Hyper and Turbo formats seem good. Possibly better than the older structures. I didn't go very deep in any huge fields to I cannot comment on whether or not the structure really deteriorates at these later levels or not but overall the portions that I played seemed solid.

As commented earlier on LittleGoliath's post I think the most important aspect of these tourney structures is to keep the blind level jumps reasonable. If average effective stacksize is 1/3 to halved between levels then the level jumped is probably to large at that portion of the tournament. I think getting this right first is far more important than any small changes you make in the time length of the blind intervals.

You can see how tough it all is. We've had the following suggestions:

- Hypers too slow
- Reg speed too fast
- Turbos too fast?
- Too many turbos
- Not enough turbos at the right times

and lastly, too many bounties, all while the bounty MTTs crushed expectations today.

I had a bunch of people comment about how they loved the 6max today, so that is good. Hopefully everyone loves the expanded chances with the Super Tuesday tomorrow.

Keep the suggestions coming.

I would happily have a go at this if I could specify the structure also, but I doubt that's the case. I'm not going to waste my time if they are only open to things with 5-8 minute levels.

here is a specific suggestion. add more regular speed tournaments with a buy of $5-$50 (fo, ko, spko, doesnt matter). the fact that there is around 2-3 options per hour at regular speed is an embarrassment to poker. we shouldn't need to tell you the specific buy in or time, that is the schedule designers job. what the hell are they paid for??? there were many fine options before that you removed (13.50 KOs, 27 SPKOs, 22 6 max SPKO).

the hot structures seem fine. the big structures need more deep play.

it would be helpful if luke decided to make an appearance and list off the major suggestions that he is hearing from us. then people can chime in and say if there are things he is missing. i can think of a few things.

1. more reg speed.
2. fix big structures
3. add more options for micro players
4. fix the non NLHE tournament options

there are probably 5-10 more things i'm missing but these are at least some of the issues he needs to address.

hey sir im new player in pokerstars and on this forum wanted to ask about the guaranteed beeing low compare to the old tounrys its this intended? and what the goal with it
aswell do you think the reg speed will be slower or will be same as it is now

thank you very much.

for micro AND low stake players

I'm a $1-$11 grinder and all I see on the lobby are turbos, hypers and timebombs:


This is absurd, might as well go play some roulette

After seeing the new schedule I actually created an account on party poker and played a few tournaments from 1 to 5.50

Except for the excessive time to late reg to them, the structure is pretty nice and allows you to actually play. Even the turbos aren't that bad.

If these guys fixed their software and there was a bigger player base they might have a shot of breaking this monopoly

Next site I'll try will be 888

u forgot not all O8 games 6max plz
if it stays 6 max let the pay jumps reflect that.
so not the same cash for 6th and 7th place etc
omania payouts:


plz bring back the rebuy saties to the omanias as well.

yes the ratio of turbos/hypers mtts to regulars mtts is just absurd. you can still add regular speed tournaments to the schedule without changing the others and, oh i don't know, let the consumer decide? sounds crazy i know.

Doggz what makes you qualified to be giving stars suggestions on the schedule man?

Luke,

Just played my first session (late-night/early morning EU) and the new schedule is MUCH better than expected. Whereas before on the worst times of the day I wouldn't be able to play more than 3 tables and now I could easily 8-table at any time. Literally a life-saver there, changed me from someone trying to play as little on stars as possible to an amaya fanboy. Send me your picture and I'll frame it to put it on the shelf above my bed.

As for the new structures:

Hypers play a bit deeper, makes up for the rake-changes a bit great
Hots also seem to play a bit deeper, shorter early stages with the 4min levels great
Bounty builders, best improvement so far. They were way too slow making a lot of them not worth playing, structure seems perfect now great

Bigs, yea they seem to play faster but we also get more of them. Therefore it won't hurt my EV so I really don't care, there's more than enough boring 10h mtt's on other sites on my schedule already.

I'd suggest giving the bigs the same structure as the BB's, just give these kids their candy.

All I'm here to do is to help focus the voice of people so that we get more of what we want and less of what we don't. Strong, clear ideas from these threads are the ones that make it from the brains of MTTc into the schedules of the sites we love. We all want a little bit different when it comes to offerings, but we are united in wanting stronger and more popular tournaments that are enjoyable to play.

I'm just doing what I can to make that happen.

Speaking for midstakes+ only, the actual schedule is quite nice now throughout the entirety of the day, minus as thelipofund mentioned a bit thin at night (Americas time), although there are certainly more red tournaments $16.50-$55 than before.

I didn't play them today, but am very excited about the 6max PSKOs, both turbos and reg speeds, and am hoping to squeeze some of them in tomorrow. Thought that was a great add, essentially an additional umbrella of non branded mtts.

Def huge +1 regarding the structures of the bigs, LittleGoliath's posts have been my favorites regarding that specific issue.

So yea, regarding the games I play, am pretty happy with most things, just def need improved bigs (and maybe BB) structures and maybe some additional mtts post old B162 as Lipo suggested, although I'm fine playing lower/more formats/whatever during that timeslot as well so it's not a huge issue.

I'll have to at some point in the next few days see if I can think of anything specific I could offer up in terms of added tourneys, specifically at night

Right... but were were not asking, hoping nor expecting them to mess up the blind levels. Antes for the start is pretty absurd since the effective big blinds you START the tournament decreases to closer to SNG levels and then the blinds dont exactly improve the player experience overall, from the Regs or Recs perspective