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Old 01-17-2016, 07:42 PM   #251
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No lag, tyty

How about trialing new blind structure for s500 during TCOOP? Tourney really takes a miserable amount of time early on
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Old 01-17-2016, 07:49 PM   #252
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Old 01-17-2016, 09:02 PM   #253
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no lag here good job
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Old 01-17-2016, 09:05 PM   #254
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Good job changing the rebuy structures for tomorrow, Luke. Just a heads up in case you didn't intend this but the first $2.20-R 4k only has a 2500 chip add-on whereas the other ones you changed have the full 4k.

Also, no lag here.
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Old 01-17-2016, 09:43 PM   #255
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Also, get rid of the $109 "packages" entirely. The $7.50 BB is much better without them and the prize pools are clearly not suffering. Plus, the $109 comes from the pool anyway, basically you are forcing the winners to use some of their winnings on your site by limiting them to a ticket. If they were a Stars added bonus then it would be different, but as I understand it they're not. So I vote for them to be removed and let the prize pool just be cash/bounties.
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Old 01-17-2016, 10:33 PM   #256
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I'm one of the few people in here who hasn't experienced much lag in the past, but today at exactly 3:30pm EST all my tables froze for about 8-10 seconds. I really don't think it was my internet connection, but I'm not positive.
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Old 01-18-2016, 09:42 AM   #257
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Everything went very smoothly for me yesterday wrt lag, thanks for that
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Old 01-18-2016, 09:47 AM   #258
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No lag here. We got there!
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Old 01-18-2016, 09:53 AM   #259
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Also here, 0 zero yesterday and i dont hear about it in any skyper groups.

Think its time for sunday minis
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Old 01-18-2016, 10:13 AM   #260
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So what was causing the lag?
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Old 01-18-2016, 10:16 AM   #261
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Too much rake weighing the servers down
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Old 01-18-2016, 10:26 AM   #262
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I'm one of the few people in here who hasn't experienced much lag in the past, but today at exactly 3:30pm EST all my tables froze for about 8-10 seconds. I really don't think it was my internet connection, but I'm not positive.
I got a tiny lag when the milly popped but it was hardly noticeable and a another small one a hour later. I classed that as no lag as it caused me zero pain and suffering.
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Old 01-18-2016, 10:37 AM   #263
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Yeah, it was pretty minimal. I didn't timeout and miss any hands, even though I had about 16 tables going, but it was a mad scramble to make all my actions when I was reconnected. Close call but no damage done.
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Old 01-18-2016, 10:49 AM   #264
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more SKOs please!!
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Old 01-18-2016, 11:55 AM   #265
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From what I've gathered from other threads they moved the lags to spins so we're safe for now boys
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Old 01-18-2016, 12:04 PM   #266
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more SKOs please!!
lol why?

SKO seems like a completly outdated format, the KOs are completly irrelevant in the deep phase of the tournament, which shouldnt be the case for any format, the general idea of the format should be present in any phase of the tourney imo.
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Old 01-18-2016, 12:14 PM   #267
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Old 01-18-2016, 02:41 PM   #268
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Thank you for changing the 5$ plo8 rebuy to a 10$ rebuy. I had stopped playing it. I will now play it again after this change.
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Old 01-18-2016, 04:46 PM   #269
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hey i think you should change the 109r to start 1 hour later, lot of regs miss it because the schedule for hsregs at that time of day is pretty bad and recently its either had v bad guarantees or not ran at all.
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Old 01-18-2016, 07:27 PM   #270
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Thank you for changing the 5$ plo8 rebuy to a 10$ rebuy. I had stopped playing it. I will now play it again after this change.
I was sceptical at first. But bigger prize money for 1st today.
However, I did notice there were less recs or curious players playing and it was very reggy.
Overall, happy with the change.
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Old 01-18-2016, 09:27 PM   #271
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Anyone got a rough idea of how long tcoop phase 3 will take on thurs?
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Old 01-19-2016, 04:21 AM   #272
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i have a suggestion to merge the 4.40 13:00ET and 3.30 14:00ET PSKOs into a 11 one than switch the h11 with h16 and flick a nice peaktime promo "have it all in a hour: bb11, h11, b11"
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Old 01-19-2016, 09:36 AM   #273
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Looking forward to having some more conversations with you in 2016!

The n-stack idea for Omania is great and gives players more bang for their buck. I'm still on the fence about it being 6max. You said your data in the 320 double vision detemined 9max was more popular. Can you not alternate between 6max and 9max every other day so players get to play both?



I appreciate the honestly. I feel that some of the suggested changes are very quick and simple. I.e. the $530 PLOs getting better structures.

I understand your argument about being lower on the totem pole, but from a bang for the buck perspecive, adding more NLO8 hypers to the schedule will show big returns for the amount of time (a few hours?) it would take out of you and your team's time. I've already mapped out a rough schedule that needs to be implemented.

Maybe I'm not asking the right question. What exactly is Pokerstars' view on NLO8 hyper MTTs since their expansion last year? Are you guys open to adding a more complete schedule that consists of micro stakes and high stakes?

Imo, you guys are missing out on a ton of rake by not having more of these in the lobby. The player pool is definitely there.



Can you specify if this was in reference to adding more NLO8 hypers or making the 5.50 rebuy an 11 rebuy?
I think an Omania test has been running since their inception. It doesn't seem to have been a success in growing Omaha tournaments. It is possible that I'll run some test tournaments for the new structure in the coming months. Unless the results are much worse than expected, chances are we'll still make Omania 6-max to differentiate the experience from our NLHE umbrella brands.

As far as the NLO8 hyper-turbos go, I'm of the opinion that the buy-in and format are not the best combination. If we want these games to grow, why offer a high buy-in game with extremely short late registration? What tournament would perform better in the long term: $44 NLO8 turbo or $82 NLO8 hyper-turbo? I think the answer is the former. These tournaments will not change in the immediate future, but I currently do not view them as particularly successful or growing the format.

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The 35s dont run anymore, except on Sundays. You aren't worried about the health of that game but you're concerned about losing maybe 25 players in a 1000+ person field MTT?


I definitely think the $60 90mans should be PKO, though. It will encourage lower buying players to jump in the game, and it falls right in line with the other 90man PKO sngs.
The decrease in traffic of the 35s was inevitable once $60 and $100 Spin & Gos were added. Changing them to PSKO could certainly provide some differentiation. I'll pass the suggestion along to Baard.

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Sad to hear that the plan is to make them non-red. I feel they weren't given much of a chance to suceed as they were arbitrarily placed in the timeslot of the former weekend $82/$215 and not heavily promoted (Stud Week and Draw week were the instances they were promoted).

Rather than moving them around to include the Asian/Oceanic timezone, they were kept in their timeslots and guarantees just kept decreasing over time.

If these were made non-Red, they will continue to die a slow death.

Leveraging the existing tournaments into the gotw promotion that FTP had would be a great way to grow these games.



There definitely needs to be a balance, but comparing any tournament to the Sunday Million isn't going to be a fair one.

If the Sunday Million is the type of tournaments that should be red, then there shouldnt be more than 20 total red tournaments in an entire week.
I do not believe their red status has made these tournaments any better off in the long term. They would have benefited from more attention in the past, though.

I'm open to the idea of a rotating suite of tournaments, but am worried that if the days don't line up with a player's preference, we'll continually receive requests to change the days. Any ideas?

As far as red tournaments go, they'll be changing with the reformat which I've finally started work on!

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I believe mtts which got bubble effect fix got deleted from favs coz after the fix I had to fav them again.
This would be a very interesting issue. I'll test a couple tournaments myself.

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Please consider adding more NLO8 hyper mtts as well as a weekly High stakes NLO8 hyper MTT. NLO8 hypers are the most popular non holdem sng format and anyone who plays NLO8 hyper sngs would also be interested in playing more NLO8 hyper mtts.

Also from 10 05 ET to 12 05 ET the only O8 mtts scheduled during this time are a 7.5 NLO8 turbo PKO and a 7.5 NLO8 hyper. Please add something else for O8 players during this time. My suggestion would be an 82 NLO8 hyper at 10 35 ET and a 27 NLO8 hyper/turbo PKO at 11 05 ET
I'll be looking into the NLO8 hypers when I have some time to focus on it. Thanks for the feedback!

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+1

Don't understand the silence since Bryan has added the 82 nlo8 hypers. They are doing ok, especially the psko, their gtd have been increased several times. It would be such a risk-free move too add more both higher and lower stakes.
Just compare the numbers of the $27 nlo8 psko(ET 13:05) and the $27 nlo8 hyper(ET 15:35). the psko regular had 191, while the hyper 141 runners today and given the popularity of psko i am quite sure that the hyper making it psko would beat the regular one.

You have to approach nlo8 differently than other non holdem games or even nlh, as its such a perfect type for making it hyper.
Thats why you see thouasands of nlo8 hyper sngs running daily, while zero nlo8 regular sngs going. People enjoy playing nlo8 hypers and making it psko its one of the most entartaining type of mtts on your site, and its not just me who saying this, jcarver said that several times on his twitch when he played the $82 nlo8 psko hyper mtt, while he is obviously not playing o8 regularly if he plays at all.

So why not give more fun mtts to the people?
Thanks for mentioning the bolded. I'm going to play some NLO8 myself since it has been awhile. No, not on PokerStars!

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FTP introduced On Demand SNGs in 2010 (iirc) and many players have been screaming for them to be rolled out on Stars for at least 3 years, probably more. Now that 180s are all but dead they're your only hope of reviving the multi-table SNG format, though I suspect that's not something you're interested in doing.
It’s true that 180s liquidity at higher buy-ins isn’t what it used to be, but overall the format is far from dead.

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Tbh I think in the current state of sng poker (all geared towards faster completion) MTSNGs would fare much better as hypers. 90 or 180man hypers would certainly revitalise my interest in them. Maybe that's just me though.
I'll ask Baard for his opinion. I'm not entirely sure how I feel about the above. The question is: would changing them to hyper-turbo grow the category, or is their current speed a nice differentiation for our players?

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stars support is just hopeless now compared to 2 years ago. Have been sparring with support for 2 weeks now trying to resolve a rather simple issue and how it basicly goes is i email with the problem i wait 48 hours for a response that doesn't help me at all i fire one back wait another 48 hours then they offer me a solution to a problem i dont have.

Its just painful and sorry for the rant its not a mtt issue but is it to much to ask to have a corraspondance with a intelligent support rep and not take 6 days for 3 emails.

No one cared you didnt have phone support when email support wasnt this feeble but maybe you should get a call centre on the go.
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If you PM me your user ID, I will make Support management aware of your displeasure so that they can look into how your case has been handled.

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re: the Daily 27s

afaik the 3.3$ turbo deep satties do well

why dont you add a 4.4$ turbo deep 15 mins later and a 5.5$ turbo deep another 15 mins later (all with 3 seats grtd) ?
would be a start to help them grow

if you dont let the dailys red they ll die for sure

also the structures could be better for sure, for example NLSD 2-7 and PL5CD should be:
20/40/10
25/50/12
30/60/15
40/80/20
50/100/25
60/120/30
80/160/40
100/200/50
120/240/60
140/280/70
170/340/85
200/400/100
and then go on with your standard structure, could even be only 10mins level to start with


could you also add a 5$ PLBadugi hyper in the euro evening like the one at 7:20 cet ?
In response to the bolded, because they'll all overlay! Very, very few tournaments are reliant on satellites. I'd much rather have 1x three seat guaranteed satellite than 3x one seat.

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Is there no more Triple Stud tourney? There used to be a small one iirc but I can't find one now. Also there doesn't seem to be a Triple Stud or Triple Draw tourney at the upcoming Tcoop, so those dying or dead formats for tournaments even though they are still listed in the filter?
Triple Stud has been removed. You're right, it is still in the filter. I'll see about having it removed in the future.

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Is https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/61...hread-1490481/ no longer used for non-texas MTT discussion?
It is much, much easier for me to keep track of one thread. I'd prefer to keep all of the MTT discussion to this thread.

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Hello Luke

I was wandering why is there no software that replays PSKO tournaments with bounties shown, as you can not properly analyze them without the bounty equity, and it turns out there isn't any software like that because the bounties aren't visible in the HH's

so basically the HH looks standard like this



PokerStars Hand #147082277903: Tournament #1437003337, $20+$20+$4 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level III (20/40) - 2016/01/15 17:36:50 CET [2016/01/15 11:36:50 ET]
Table '1437003337 52' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: 1outerHero (3251 in chips)
Seat 2: De Dominis (3100 in chips)
Seat 3: Bebaimis11 (2885 in chips)
Seat 4: morrri (553 in chips)
Seat 5: Pilich1234 (4828 in chips)
Seat 6: gaacha (2726 in chips)
Seat 7: elPolacco86 (3742 in chips)
Seat 8: darkspace0 (2994 in chips)
Seat 9: RatbLino192 (3268 in chips)
1outerHero: posts the ante 6
De Dominis: posts the ante 6
Bebaimis11: posts the ante 6
morrri: posts the ante 6
Pilich1234: posts the ante 6
gaacha: posts the ante 6
elPolacco86: posts the ante 6
darkspace0: posts the ante 6
RatbLino192: posts the ante 6
morrri: posts small blind 20
Pilich1234: posts big blind 40
.....


where instead you can make them look like this:



PokerStars Hand #147082277903: Tournament #1437003337, $20+$20+$4 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level III (20/40) - 2016/01/15 17:36:50 CET [2016/01/15 11:36:50 ET]
Table '1437003337 52' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: 1outerHero (20$) (3251 in chips)
Seat 2: De Dominis (20$) (3100 in chips)
Seat 3: Bebaimis11 (20$) (2885 in chips)
Seat 4: morrri (20$) (553 in chips)
Seat 5: Pilich1234 (20$) (4828 in chips)
Seat 6: gaacha (20$) (2726 in chips)
Seat 7: elPolacco86 (20$) (3742 in chips)
Seat 8: darkspace0 (20$) (2994 in chips)
Seat 9: RatbLino192 (20$) (3268 in chips)
.....

so that the software can be programmed to look at the bounties too

I think it wouldn't be hard to do that, but it would be beneficiary for anyone that analyses hand histories/gets coached for PSKO's, especially now that the PSKO's are dominating the schedule, and with the introduction of new formats like PUKO nad PTKO...


Thanks
I'll discuss this with the team. Thanks for the suggestion!

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-1 There are enough turbos out there and thats by far one of the best mtts. Just skip it guys. There is no way imo to finish 3 hours earlier and the structure dont be hurt. If there is no epts/pca it seems the tourneys keeps decent player base. If its semi turbo i guess a lot of mid stakes guys that take shots wont even consider to play it .
I don't think increasing the pace at the beginning of this tournament would make it turbo. Regardless, this type of change is some time off!

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what about some daily (micro/smallstakes) 6-max shootout mtts? i played one of these last micromillions and it made a lot fun to play!!
We used to run shootout satellites to the Sunday Warm-Up and Storm. They cancelled constantly because having a min and max entrants that are the same, which is necessary for shootouts, requires all players to be registered at the start. We are consistently trending toward players joining during late registration, which makes it very unlikely that we'd be able to run scheduled shootouts.

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Lag seems much improved today.

You seemed open to the idea of a $27-$55 Pacific Rim Daily, is that still the case?
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Yes, gonna have to eat my words here - it was my internet lagging this time.
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no lag today at all. thanks for fixing, really helps playing experience.
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yep fully lag free here also. thanks for resolving that.
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No lag, tyty

How about trialing new blind structure for s500 during TCOOP? Tourney really takes a miserable amount of time early on
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Everything went very smoothly for me yesterday wrt lag, thanks for that
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No lag here. We got there!
I don't think I'll get too many opportunities to do this, so I'm just going to bask in it.

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Good job changing the rebuy structures for tomorrow, Luke. Just a heads up in case you didn't intend this but the first $2.20-R 4k only has a 2500 chip add-on whereas the other ones you changed have the full 4k.

Also, no lag here.
The other $2.20+R structure will be updated beginning Monday, 25 January. Good catch!

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Also, get rid of the $109 "packages" entirely. The $7.50 BB is much better without them and the prize pools are clearly not suffering. Plus, the $109 comes from the pool anyway, basically you are forcing the winners to use some of their winnings on your site by limiting them to a ticket. If they were a Stars added bonus then it would be different, but as I understand it they're not. So I vote for them to be removed and let the prize pool just be cash/bounties.
We've now run a full week of $1.10 and $7.50 Bounty Builders without hybridization. Their participation increased 8.1% and 6.8% respectively. We'll likely be removing the hybridization from Bounty Builders until we are able to control how they are visible in the client. This change will take some time due to requiring an update to web content and all of the tournament scripts.

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I'm one of the few people in here who hasn't experienced much lag in the past, but today at exactly 3:30pm EST all my tables froze for about 8-10 seconds. I really don't think it was my internet connection, but I'm not positive.
Can you let me know if this happens next week?

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From what I've gathered from other threads they moved the lags to spins so we're safe for now boys
This was resolved.

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lol why?

SKO seems like a completly outdated format, the KOs are completly irrelevant in the deep phase of the tournament, which shouldnt be the case for any format, the general idea of the format should be present in any phase of the tourney imo.
I tend to agree with this line of thought, but I'm not sure regular/super knockouts will be removed.

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hey i think you should change the 109r to start 1 hour later, lot of regs miss it because the schedule for hsregs at that time of day is pretty bad and recently its either had v bad guarantees or not ran at all.
HSMTTs just do not do well on Monday/Wednesday/Friday. I would not want to move a $109 tournament to clash with the Big $109.

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I was sceptical at first. But bigger prize money for 1st today.
However, I did notice there were less recs or curious players playing and it was very reggy.
Overall, happy with the change.
The number of entrants week on week was reduced by 40%, but the prize pool increased 16%. I'm lukewarm on this change but we'll continue to monitor the results.

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Anyone got a rough idea of how long tcoop phase 3 will take on thurs?
Just a guess, but I'll go with 4.5-5.5 hours.

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i have a suggestion to merge the 4.40 13:00ET and 3.30 14:00ET PSKOs into a 11 one than switch the h11 with h16 and flick a nice peaktime promo "have it all in a hour: bb11, h11, b11"
I can't even imagine the volume of emails if I did this.
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Old 01-19-2016, 10:30 AM   #274
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stars support is just hopeless now compared to 2 years ago. Have been sparring with support for 2 weeks now trying to resolve a rather simple issue and how it basicly goes is i email with the problem i wait 48 hours for a response that doesn't help me at all i fire one back wait another 48 hours then they offer me a solution to a problem i dont have.

Its just painful and sorry for the rant its not a mtt issue but is it to much to ask to have a corraspondance with a intelligent support rep and not take 6 days for 3 emails.

No one cared you didnt have phone support when email support wasnt this feeble but maybe you should get a call centre on the go.
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The issue has now been fully resolved, thanks for the follow up.
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Old 01-19-2016, 11:09 AM   #275
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Re: 2016 PokerStars MTT Discussion Thread (Last Update: 2016/01/11)

more 08 MTT hypers please
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