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04-25-2016 , 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by reraise85
Luke, why have u changed the $22 6max prog ko at 18:45 UK time into a turbo,it was great as was so can u change it back?
and the only 27 PKO 6max that wasnt a turbo is now a turbo as well. I don't think they will have worse numbers but I think that most of the field that play them won't like this change.
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04-25-2016 , 12:26 AM
It's because there are a bunch of 6m PKO freezeouts during peak. Maybe the buyins are not correctly mixed...
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04-25-2016 , 02:41 AM
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Originally Posted by reraise85
Luke, why have u changed the $22 6max prog ko at 18:45 UK time into a turbo,it was great as was so can u change it back?
Luke doesn't want to play tournaments longer than 5 hours, so no.
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04-25-2016 , 02:53 AM
WOW!!!!!!!!!!
A bigger starting stack!!
Be sure to tell us how its good for the game.
Nobody will ever look at the blind structures and figure it out.
Thanks stars for treating us like ******s.
Be sure to tell us how its good for the game.
You know what I've noticed in the time of the takeover?
You've killed off rebuys by rake raping the rebuys and add ons.
It's good for the game!!!
You've killed off capped games.
It's good for the game!!!
You've added scratch off ticket type poker to the sched and now have made more of the sched like that.
Less value and more rake, tell us how its good for the game and the players, Luke.
How do you live with yourself?
I guess like Goebbels, if you repeat a lie often enough ppl will believe it.
If you need any more ideas for more games try these..........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8c1BQkKUsx0


On the other hand these changes do make me want to sing............

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEK97bSz6LQ

Last edited by Joey86bu; 04-25-2016 at 03:01 AM.
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04-25-2016 , 03:26 AM
+1 more reg speed mtts
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04-25-2016 , 03:28 AM
its only me or the new tournys are way less guaranteed for example if 7.50$ tourny was 15k guaranteed now its says 3k or its because of the hour?>
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04-25-2016 , 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted by royalon
its only me or the new tournys are way less guaranteed for example if 7.50$ tourny was 15k guaranteed now its says 3k or its because of the hour?>
it's just better this way

Last edited by mashxx; 04-25-2016 at 03:52 AM. Reason: gtds are new, Luke has promised to adjust them this week, but he used to promise a lot regarding gtds and deliver a little
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04-25-2016 , 04:04 AM
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Originally Posted by tristano00
+1 more reg speed mtts
+1 (12 minutes / 15 minutes)
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04-25-2016 , 04:09 AM
I`ve been a lurker for a while, but for this decided to register.
You just had to destroy Draw poker schedule, didn`t you?

Adding the most pathetic schedule imaginable, removing the daily 27 PL tourney, the 82 weekly one. Completely butchering the start of said tourneys for the European players.

I bet the masterminds behind the plan thought people would stop playing this type of poker altogether and go play spins instead. So win win for your piggy bank?

Shame...
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04-25-2016 , 04:15 AM
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Originally Posted by tthousand
Since I play the micro buy-ins and I enjoy regular speed tournaments, I would like to ask PokerStars Luke what tournaments I am supposed to play now? I normally try to avoid turbos and semi-turbos. I guess that Winamax and 888 is the only choice I have now.
I'd suggest MTTSNG if you want to stay at stars (for rakeback reasons and software). 180man has 15m levels, 27/45/90 man has 10m

new schedule doesn't have to be played until every tournament has 20% longer blind levels.
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04-25-2016 , 04:24 AM
Looks good so far...

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04-25-2016 , 04:37 AM
I have this strange feeling that its pointless to make any suggestions, the train is moving at full speed... but regardless.

5 Card Draw suggestions:
Can you bring back the $27 PL tournament? Had decent numbers for this niche game, and was a bridge to events like Scoop with higher buy ins. How do you expect people to play they 215 buy in Scoop if you mostly run $1 and $2 tourneys?

Increase the buy in or add more mid stake tourneys, or better still bring back the $5.5 (the best amount IMO)

Add extra tourneys in the schedule: Am myself from Europe so a few extra in the schedule would be great. like BEFORE you know? not having to wait 4 more hours for a $1 tourney....

The $3.3 turbo was great, loads of people played it. So bring it back or add another Turbo.

$11 KO is an interesting idea, but its very late in the schedule, something similar for mid day or morning maybe?

Add some promotions to attract more people for this specific game.

Last edited by Username231; 04-25-2016 at 04:40 AM. Reason: adding extra comments
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04-25-2016 , 04:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Uhrenknecht
I'd suggest MTTSNG if you want to stay at stars. 180man has 15m levels, 27/45/90 man has 10m
Thanks for your suggestions but I have always played large field tournaments only and grinding MTTSNG doesnt interest me though. Not to mention there are almost no regular speed 180man MTTSNG running. The new schedule looks great to me but the blind level structure tells me I am not their targeted audience, therefore I am not welcomed at Pokerstars.
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04-25-2016 , 05:03 AM
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Originally Posted by tthousand
Not to mention there are almost no regular speed 180man MTTSNG running.
If there were Greedstars would hike the rake, reduce the level times and spread the payouts.
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04-25-2016 , 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by mashxx
it's just better this way
can you explain to me pls how its working how its better

thank you.
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04-25-2016 , 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by royalon
can you explain to me pls how its working how its better

thank you.
replied in the edit part more seriously: gtds are new, Luke has promised to adjust them this week, but he used to promise a lot regarding gtds and deliver a little.

so just wait like two weeks, get disappointed and then grab your pitchfork again
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04-25-2016 , 06:05 AM
Late reg in NLO8 HT is broken i guess. It should end after 150/300, ended today after 100/200.
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04-25-2016 , 06:20 AM
I am missing some tournaments... will point them out in MESZ Timezone.

17:xx 8rebuy regsped
17:xx 8 1r1a
18:15 27 PKO Turbo
18:40 55 KO Turbo
19:30 Hot16.50
19:40 8rebuy 2x Turbo
21:45 33 Turbo
all 27 KO Turbo
several 27 Hyper Turbos
Wednesday's Battle Royal has now lower Guarantee and is a 215$...

Will there be any changes still? Essentially you did kick some nice rebuys and 2 of the most common turbos (27pko turbo and hot 16.5) and replace em with - well - nothing comparable?
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04-25-2016 , 06:33 AM
Just woke up and got curious: what do we have now at Big's FT?

Here we are (first hand of the FT):



Avg stack at FT: 22BB

5 players are below the avg and have 10BB or less.

After 6 mins of play at Big $33 FT, while I made those screenshots, there are only 5 players left.

I bet those four guys who were busted during the first six minutes of the final table are extremely happy cause nowdays they finally don't need to play that boring game for hours.

Good job, Luke!

Ohhh, maybe I was a bit prejudged.

Let's take a look at the enchanced players' experience at Big $2.20 which happened at the same time. I feel like all the recs should defenitely enjoy the game of poker here, since all the major innovations were just made for their goods.

And what we can see:



Avg Stack: 16 BBs in top-6 of the FT

5 players out of 6 have 17BBs or less.

Thanks God, it would not take that long. Couple of minutes and they will finally get an opportunity to close the client feeling exhausted after SIX long hours of play.

Now this is like David Copperfield disappearing show. I will count down to 0: five, four, three... OOPS! It did not take even THAT long!

The Big $2.20 FT is now over. From top-6 down to the winner — just during the 15 minutes that I was writing this post. And Big $33 is now HU after 36 minutes of playing at FT.

Thanks for all the innovations, Stars!

Last edited by anzhei; 04-25-2016 at 06:40 AM.
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04-25-2016 , 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by w3cray
I am missing some tournaments... will point them out in MESZ Timezone.

17:xx 8rebuy regsped
17:xx 8 1r1a
18:15 27 PKO Turbo
18:40 55 KO Turbo
19:30 Hot16.50
19:40 8rebuy 2x Turbo
21:45 33 Turbo
all 27 KO Turbo
several 27 Hyper Turbos
Wednesday's Battle Royal has now lower Guarantee and is a 215$...

Will there be any changes still? Essentially you did kick some nice rebuys and 2 of the most common turbos (27pko turbo and hot 16.5) and replace em with - well - nothing comparable?
I play same schedule, I pointed out exact difference some posts ago, the differences are really big unfortunately.
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04-25-2016 , 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by anzhei
Just woke up and got curious: what do we have now at Big's FT?

Here we are (first hand of the FT):



Avg stack at FT: 22BB

5 players are below the avg and have 10BB or less.

After 6 mins of play at Big $33 FT, while I made those screenshots, there are only 5 players left.

I bet those four guys who were busted during the first six minutes of the final table are extremely happy cause nowdays they finally don't need to play that boring game for hours.

Good job, Luke!
Structures are fine, and it's not Luke's fault that some people wait for QQ+ with 7bb.
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04-25-2016 , 06:58 AM
As an Asian player, the new schedule is really good stuff!

+1 5k Stacks and less significant blind jumps
+1 More Asian-friendly
+1 Better payouts (somewhat)

But a big -1 to 8/9 minute levels. I think reg speed bigs really deserve 10, or atleast 9/10, or 10/12 would be best tbh. I've been sticking quite firmly to my non-turbo commitments. I haven't played a turbo in half a year.

I'll decide whether I keep playing. It depends on how the new structure plays out
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04-25-2016 , 07:00 AM
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04-25-2016 , 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by anzhei
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Thanks for all the innovations, Stars!
Rather than make sarcastic remarks regarding the new structure why not try and lend suggestions on how Pokerstars(Luke) can improve upon the current structure to have it more in line with what PokerStars and the players want in their MTTs.

I haven't read this entire thread but I believe it was suggested that Luke wanted to shorten the length that the overall reg speed tourneys take online. A simple immediate solution to that PokerStars has already implemented in this new structure in the antes at the initial levels. If they had just taken the old structure and added antes to all levels and left everything else the same I'd imagine the average reg speed total tourney length would be cut by 30 min to an hour on average.

Now Luke has decided that dynamic blind levels is another addition that can improve upon the former structure. I'm not so sure that's the case but rather than just cry over the initial changes why not lend some advice on how this "dynamic" structure of timed blinds can be improved upon.

I'm curious though Luke and maybe you can comment. Why make such a drastic change to that of which the majority of your clientele was use to all these years when you could have just started with small changes to the former structure to shorten the average length such as antes at all levels of the MTT? and or maybe just increasing the % of antes per level a small bit?
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04-25-2016 , 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by the_bridler
Because the guy in charge of the tournament schedule first thinks how long a tournament takes and if it takes longer than 5 hours to cash he isnt interested.

It doesnt matter that all the data shows recs love to have room to play, have supported the bigs how they have been for years, get angry at the tables when they find out how quick the blinds are and start going on about bingo poker, that the best online series in the world get so many entries because of deep slow structures etc etc
have to agree with this unfortunately.
too many personal preferences mirrored on many changes, like the capped games removed (no, MTTSNGs aren't the same), faster structures and highly reduced number of satellites (and many of them are made hypers).

All of the (remaining) hot's sats for example, 2 or 3 at each hot, are hypers now, when there used to be at least 3 turbos at each. thanx-no thanx.
Capped games; i remember some $2+R 500cap that always filled up and all the while when there were at least 2 tours $2+R uncapped close by. that means people liked them.

new bigs' running times are ridiculous really.
like i said earlier, this suits my personal preferences, if i play hots that run for 4 hours, i'll definitely be regging more bigs now when they only last an hour longer. but lol at this, big's shouldn't be crapshoots.

about adjustment of structures, it's nice that luke seems open to discussion and tweaking, but it's not like you can't foresee running times etc base on numbers (thus have a decent structure from the get go). i'll give a little of leeway to this, cause many tours are added and with the whole schedule changed numbers are a bit harder to predict.

ps. imo it's probably too big of a task for one person only, whole schedule nlh and mixed games, new structures, and satellites.
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