Do you really think you can kill a tournament by adjusting the guaranteed amount? You seem to think that a recreational player will refuse to play if a MTT doesn't have a certain guarantee. Yet there's so many things more important than the guarantee of a tournament and a player really isn't going to log off because he sees the tournament he likes to play now has a different guarantee.

If you'd take a look at PS.fr/es you'd see that all guarantees are being crushed, that shows that people will play a tournament if they like the format and have the time and not because they're looking for any given guarantee. I remember the Stars schedule of a few years ago that had tournaments without a guarantee, they had the same level of participation as the same tournaments with a guarantee. Thus it's fairly irrelevant.

If you don't like the number of players dropping, blame poker being less popular, blame chests, blame higher rake, blame softer Stars.es/fr but don't think people will all suddenly want to play the tournament you like if only Stars made the guarantee a bit higher.

its amazing how wrong you are @ Michael Buble...
with your argument the sunday million should have 1 million for first every sunday cause recs dont care about higher guarantees! wtf?

Lol, strong reasoning. I didn't say recs choose a tournament at random. They do care about:
- a tournament being the biggest tournament of the week;
- a tournament being highlighted;
- marketed as special;
- satellites.

Which all favors the Sunday Million.

Guarantee is only a small factor that can't be the sole reason for a tournament which is very good on itself 'being killed' as the poster above suggested.

Well, at least those tickets expire. I have some tickets from 10 years ago which never expired even their events are gone.

Lol Michael Buble

I agree with Michael.

I would partly agree with you from a logical standpoint, as there are things much more important than gtd pool and in a perfect world this would have zero impact on a fieldsize. But given I've spent some time minutes on Sharkscope observing what was the actual impact, and I can safely say you're wrong, at least based on data of these two tournaments. Fieldsizes for themwere always dropping few weeks after gtd change, not before.

Fields in MTTs are obviously getting smaller overall, but there's no way we have lost 50% players since December, the way these two tournaments have dropped due to weird gtd's policy. We're not talking 30% over a year (which seems about the rate on which we loose playerpool), we're talking 15k gtd -> 8k gtd in 5 months.

And yes, obviously recs do look for a gtd price, bc they want to see what's the 1st place price. Both 55 and 109 6max'es will drop below 1000$ for 1st (excluding bounty) soon, so I expect fields to drop dramatically as the psychological barrier of 4-digits-for-a-ship will be passed.

thats all three weekly plo 500s this week cancelled, assume they all fell foul of the new minimum required entrants policy?

despite being in latam i highly appreciate that the sun mill was moved 1hr earlier

def makes clicking it little more appealing for europeans who happen to have jobs

Luke, can we get any kind of protection for DCs in HU Zoom MTTs?
Yesterday I was playing the 11 $ HU Zoom and I had ~50 Big Blinds. Then I got a DC for like 5 minutes and when I came back I was busted.

I guess it would work if we get some kind of like "Sit-out" option without being seated on another table, because its already a disadvantage in those tournaments if ur stack is getting lower compared to the average stack sizes (lower chance of winning bountys). Getting a DC and being seated on table after table with blinds being folded in high speed is not really a good thing. A DC in those tournaments is almost equal to a bust out.

About that 55/109 6 max pko i was playing them too and i like them BUT when i start cuting my volumen on stars (for obv reasons)and start playing on party/.es first mtts to drop off were hipers (variance etv) then 6 max( need more focus when multitableng then 9 max) and this da6s i almost never fire them even if i have free slot mostly for guarantees reasons and low $ amount for first place

What i was trying to say is that regs imo start skiping those mtts ( simular thing has happend to 215 6 max daily and 215 big) because there are way better mtts to play on other sites in that time slot=> which is resulting with field that is playing this mtt to drop down => which is resulting guarantee to be lower=> which is resulting for rec to not reg it => which will result in even lower guarantees and even lower field

this cicle is happening for over 2 years. They don´t seem to care at all, most of the regs and recs 1st thing that they look in a mtt lobby is how much the 1st place is getting.

whats up with this lol

What’s up with what?

This?

I wonder how many people wasted their time (and how much of it) trying to spot something

edit: what's up with that lol

sorry lol thought it was obv

1st pays twice as much as 2nd

Basically they make it seem like the tourney pays well by making 1st place appealing , but in reality they scraped a few more % off the ft payouts

The only solution to this is to have Stars on your phone and get on it if your computer ****s off, that is unless your internet dies as a whole and you don't have wifi, then you're ****ed and I wouldn't even bother with that tourny if it's a regular occurrence.

standard .es payout. No .eu satellite payouts. ez game?

No. No no no no no.

Here's the reality. I keep an ongoing record of the player numbers on Stars for pretty much every hour of the day. And I can tell you that the number of players online have decreased by a MINIMUM of 10% since the rake increase and are setting new all time lows EVERY single day.

What I can't tell you is where the player pool is being decimated, but I'm pretty sure the freerollers and micro stakes players won't have even considered moving. So most of those absentees will have been contributing in a meaningful way to Stars profits.

Conclusion. Despite the price increase, Stars are now making less money than they were before the bright spark/s that decided this was a good idea were given the go ahead for this "experiment".

This company WILL fail in the short to medium term as the people running it don't have a clue about their business.

I'm not waiting for the obvious to materialise and my money is now elsewhere. I'd recommend you all consider doing the same unless you want to be contributors to the upcoming thread titled "How did we let yet another poker company steal our money"

Regarding 6max tournaments:

IF you look away from the mini Monday 6-Max tournaments, there are no 6max tournies during the whole week that is just vanilla NLHE freezeout. reg speed with a buy in between $11 and $55. We used to have Saturday 6max $22 dollar, and a daily 6max $16.50 starting at 2020 CET, but those days are long gone.

The only daily tournaments now, are either PSKO`s or turbo/hypers.

Stars may not be perfect, but other sites are even worse.

Take something like Party's structure which people have been hammering them on about, they KEEP ****ing it up for something as simple as that. Another simple thing they could fix would be taking notes in Zoom cash, I don't understand why it's so hard, if I click someone's name why does it disappear when I go to a new table?

888 many people have given many different suggestions, but most of them have been ignored, they actually think that by slightly tweaking GTDs, schedules and structures, they will accomplish something big. 888 is just the overlay site that high stakers play from time to time, they have zero will and drive to innovate or try something new.

Stars has the best software (by far)
Stars has the best guarantees (by far)
Stars structures are on the whole, the best
Stars has the most varied and different daily tournaments that other sites don't do (by far)

Stars is just on another level, the only way Stars fails is if poker as a whole goes under. And I say this as someone who dislikes some of the recent changes, but they are not even close to failing.

Everytime I play on 888 it feels like a travel ~15 years back in time. I dont get it why their interface hasnt been renewed yet.

But well, I have the feeling that Poker will get another big hype in the upcommig years, because of the growing popularity of games and twitch overall and WSOP final tables first time free to watch on twitch & more and more combined regulated player pools. I am not saying it might happen this or next year, but I see a possible next boom in the next ~5 years.

It looks like you're stuck in 2015

Personally loving the MTT field sizes these days. Small fields ftw.