[OFFICIAL] PokerStars MTT Thread
01-12-2016
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I like how you forgot to put MicroMillions in that list 
I may sound like I'm a big fan of MicroMillions, but the reason I like MicroMillions is I get to play all variants with bigger guarantees which we normally don't get.
Anyway what I meant was I want to see more mtt promotions like giveaways, half-price Sunday majors, occasional mini-majors with giveaways, sunday storm - 1M GTD, etc.
What changes are you looking for? Imo the ones that are doing already well or okish, shouldn’t be changed. I can’t tell about Razz, Stud, and other mixed games as I don’t play them. I was talking about Badugi, Triple Draw, NL 2-7 Single Draw schedule. Last year you removed many tournaments - I understand they needed cleaning but you could have slightly modified few of them. There are only 2 triple draws tourneys yet there are more triple draw cash players than single draw which has got 4 daily tournaments.
Now regarding the Daily/Weekly schedule – As of now there are 11 Non-NLHE Daily tourneys. All had started with $1K GTDs. HORSE, 8-game, PL 5-Card draw, Stud H/L, FL Omaha H/L haven’t got their GTDs reduced yet so I can assume they are doing good. Stud, Badugi, NL 2-7 Single Draw haven’t been doing very well. NL 2-7SD most of the time got overlay because of bubble effect but still they are only getting 30-35 entrants which is below avg. Imo you should move Badugi, NL 2-7 SD couple of hours back. Razz, Triple Draw, FL holdem has got $750 gtd which is also below avg. I believe Daily-Weekly needs a promotional support. Last year you had a Draw week but it wasn’t very well executed. You could have taken advantage of that promotion and could have doubled their guarantees for that week.
I think you should come up with a promotion maybe for 1 month like:
1) i) Win 3 Dailies in a day and get a chance to win
40% $250 + 3 $27 Daily Tickets
20% $500 + 5 $27 Daily tickets
5% $2500 + 10 Daily tickets
2.5% $5000 + 10 tickets
etc etc Similarily for Weeklies
ii) Cash 3 dailies in a day and get 3 $27 tickets
iii) Play 3 dailies in a day and get 1 $27 ticket
Obviously this is just an example, I don’t know what should the numbers be or how much would you spend on this promotion. BUT IT DEFINITELY NEEDS A PROMOTIONAL SUPPORT.
2) Daily/Weekly separate Leaderboard (Permanent thing)
3) New Badges – All team pros have got this red spade thing, and players who have hit 1M vpp or 5M vpp– I think you should introduce more badges. Like the winner of daily/weekly leaderboard should get a badge which he can use it for a week or a month. Badges are super attractive to recs
4) All-rounder/Mixed game player of the week – Introduce something like player of the week. You decide what the criteria should be.
I have already suggested that to PokerStars Matthew in promotions thread, I thought I should also let you know about this. I don’t want to see it run only during promotions, I want it to be a regular thing so by the end of the month I can spend my 1k stars coin on a zoom tourney rather than buy $11 tournament ticket and play big 11 or Sunday storm which I find super boring when I have to single table. There aren’t many zoom tourneys and there is not a single special zoom tourney.
Anyway, what was the $5K winner take-all promotion?
I may sound like I'm a big fan of MicroMillions, but the reason I like MicroMillions is I get to play all variants with bigger guarantees which we normally don't get. Anyway what I meant was I want to see more mtt promotions like giveaways, half-price Sunday majors, occasional mini-majors with giveaways, sunday storm - 1M GTD, etc.
What changes are you looking for? Imo the ones that are doing already well or okish, shouldn’t be changed. I can’t tell about Razz, Stud, and other mixed games as I don’t play them. I was talking about Badugi, Triple Draw, NL 2-7 Single Draw schedule. Last year you removed many tournaments - I understand they needed cleaning but you could have slightly modified few of them. There are only 2 triple draws tourneys yet there are more triple draw cash players than single draw which has got 4 daily tournaments.
Now regarding the Daily/Weekly schedule – As of now there are 11 Non-NLHE Daily tourneys. All had started with $1K GTDs. HORSE, 8-game, PL 5-Card draw, Stud H/L, FL Omaha H/L haven’t got their GTDs reduced yet so I can assume they are doing good. Stud, Badugi, NL 2-7 Single Draw haven’t been doing very well. NL 2-7SD most of the time got overlay because of bubble effect but still they are only getting 30-35 entrants which is below avg. Imo you should move Badugi, NL 2-7 SD couple of hours back. Razz, Triple Draw, FL holdem has got $750 gtd which is also below avg. I believe Daily-Weekly needs a promotional support. Last year you had a Draw week but it wasn’t very well executed. You could have taken advantage of that promotion and could have doubled their guarantees for that week.
I think you should come up with a promotion maybe for 1 month like:
1) i) Win 3 Dailies in a day and get a chance to win
40% $250 + 3 $27 Daily Tickets
20% $500 + 5 $27 Daily tickets
5% $2500 + 10 Daily tickets
2.5% $5000 + 10 tickets
etc etc Similarily for Weeklies
ii) Cash 3 dailies in a day and get 3 $27 tickets
iii) Play 3 dailies in a day and get 1 $27 ticket
Obviously this is just an example, I don’t know what should the numbers be or how much would you spend on this promotion. BUT IT DEFINITELY NEEDS A PROMOTIONAL SUPPORT.
2) Daily/Weekly separate Leaderboard (Permanent thing)
3) New Badges – All team pros have got this red spade thing, and players who have hit 1M vpp or 5M vpp– I think you should introduce more badges. Like the winner of daily/weekly leaderboard should get a badge which he can use it for a week or a month. Badges are super attractive to recs
4) All-rounder/Mixed game player of the week – Introduce something like player of the week. You decide what the criteria should be.
I have already suggested that to PokerStars Matthew in promotions thread, I thought I should also let you know about this. I don’t want to see it run only during promotions, I want it to be a regular thing so by the end of the month I can spend my 1k stars coin on a zoom tourney rather than buy $11 tournament ticket and play big 11 or Sunday storm which I find super boring when I have to single table. There aren’t many zoom tourneys and there is not a single special zoom tourney.
Anyway, what was the $5K winner take-all promotion?
- Stud and Draw week was considered a success. If you have suggestions to make it better, feel free to leave them here. There is a higher chance of repeating that promotion with some improvements than coming up with a new mixed game promotion. That is purely speculation on my end, though.
- I do not think the Daily $27s and Weekly $82/$215s will continue to be red. Yes, it can be argued that they need to be updated, but I do not believe they'll grow very much even if changed. A red tournament lacking participation points to the format. Time slot shuffling would help, though.
- MicroMillions is tentatively planned to run in July.
- Many of your ideas aren't free!
- You're welcome to continue the mixed game discussion, but I'm afraid I won't have much to add until I really dig into the schedule changes.
- PokerStars used to run a 20 player capped $5,000 buy-in winner-take-all MTT on Sundays. It was two 10-handed tables. Memories!
This tournament definitely seems like a candidate to change. I'll add it to the list, but at this point it seems unlikely I'll get to it this week.
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Hello Luke
I am o8 high stakes player and i think i have some good ideas how to inprove things.
1. First of all the 530 plo hi/lo on Wednesday very good tournement that hits it guarenteed all the time, imo it does not attract really recreational players but the players who i think are -ev in this toernement are most of the time rich holdem mtt crushers (who play them for fun or ego). So for stars this is also a very good tournament. An idea to try is to make it 1 rebuy when busted
( i know you are business stars, try 1 re-enry then 
i am happy to give a other 30$ in rake and i guess a lot of rich holdem crushers does not care too what is good for toernement imo also more price money)
2. An other idea too add also a weekly no limit hi/lo highstakes. i think the best format for no limit o8 would be a 109+R (unlimited) (add-on same amount of chips as rebuy pls otherwise to much late regs). It will be way more fun for no limit o8 to make it 109+R then to make it a 320. it will be nice for a friday. there is a lot of cap game no limit o8 cash action those people would join this too.
3.I did see suggestions for a daily 215 psk nl hi/lo hyper ofcourse i love the idea but luke i think starting with a 215 psk o8 hyper late on sunday would be very smart And save choice to begin with (the 82 psk nlhi/lo early in sunday is always booming, no idea why all those holdem people join :P ). i would bet lot of money that when a 215 psk hyper toernement is a little before or after the sunday super sonic it will be booming!!
i have more ideas but the above i think will very likely work!
I am o8 high stakes player and i think i have some good ideas how to inprove things.
1. First of all the 530 plo hi/lo on Wednesday very good tournement that hits it guarenteed all the time, imo it does not attract really recreational players but the players who i think are -ev in this toernement are most of the time rich holdem mtt crushers (who play them for fun or ego). So for stars this is also a very good tournament. An idea to try is to make it 1 rebuy when busted
( i know you are business stars, try 1 re-enry then i am happy to give a other 30$ in rake and i guess a lot of rich holdem crushers does not care too what is good for toernement imo also more price money)2. An other idea too add also a weekly no limit hi/lo highstakes. i think the best format for no limit o8 would be a 109+R (unlimited) (add-on same amount of chips as rebuy pls otherwise to much late regs). It will be way more fun for no limit o8 to make it 109+R then to make it a 320. it will be nice for a friday. there is a lot of cap game no limit o8 cash action those people would join this too.
3.I did see suggestions for a daily 215 psk nl hi/lo hyper ofcourse i love the idea but luke i think starting with a 215 psk o8 hyper late on sunday would be very smart And save choice to begin with (the 82 psk nlhi/lo early in sunday is always booming, no idea why all those holdem people join :P ). i would bet lot of money that when a 215 psk hyper toernement is a little before or after the sunday super sonic it will be booming!!
i have more ideas but the above i think will very likely work!
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Thanks, I hope PS decides to keep the format. I play the $55 from time to time, it always reaches / exceeds it's GNTD any time I played / observed the game. The smaller GNTDS seem to always bust the GNTDS as well. It would be a shame to see the format no longer offered in the main schedule.
I feel as if the satellites would run more often if the format was switched to the previously mentioned format. I registered for one of the sats last week to notice it wasn't an Anti-up structure and was a hyper. I immediately unregistered. I think others done the same as the short time I observed the sats I seen players taking the same action as me.
I look forward to playing TCOOP Event 38.
I feel as if the satellites would run more often if the format was switched to the previously mentioned format. I registered for one of the sats last week to notice it wasn't an Anti-up structure and was a hyper. I immediately unregistered. I think others done the same as the short time I observed the sats I seen players taking the same action as me.
I look forward to playing TCOOP Event 38.
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I don't know if this exactly is the right thread for it but...
How does PokerStars.FR think, really?
The Galactic Main event, with 3 starting days and a concluding Day 2 on Wednesday, is a slow-structured mtt with 20-minute levels.
After Day 1C on Tuesday there will be a total of ~600 runners for Day 2.
Won't this be a ridiculous grind for those 600 runners? There is no Day 3 so we are talking about 14 hours+ to finish.
Thoughts?
How does PokerStars.FR think, really?
The Galactic Main event, with 3 starting days and a concluding Day 2 on Wednesday, is a slow-structured mtt with 20-minute levels.
After Day 1C on Tuesday there will be a total of ~600 runners for Day 2.
Won't this be a ridiculous grind for those 600 runners? There is no Day 3 so we are talking about 14 hours+ to finish.
Thoughts?
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For PLO the 215 is too early on a Saturday and suffers from the problem of a low guarantee not being enticing enough to a lot of target players to start their grind earlier and reg it.
You need a 6 max rebuy scheduled at a good time, as this is by far the most popular format. No reason it couldn't do very well but it needs to be peak time and not to plug a gap somewhere. Fridays don't really have anything atm.
I would start with something like a 50r 25k gtd on a Friday night, with a Mini 5r 5k or similar in tandem.
You need a 6 max rebuy scheduled at a good time, as this is by far the most popular format. No reason it couldn't do very well but it needs to be peak time and not to plug a gap somewhere. Fridays don't really have anything atm.
I would start with something like a 50r 25k gtd on a Friday night, with a Mini 5r 5k or similar in tandem.
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Agreed on the turbos front
The 55t 2x, the 44t and even the new 33t feel like they could do better as part of some promotion, same goes for the 22 10k. I play some of the bigger volume schedules of players and I usually skip the lot of them. I remember you changing the 109 2x to psko and it exploded, why not try and spice these up a little? I could get on board with leaving the 33t as it is as its been doing ok the rest is absolute trashy regfests tho.
The 55t 2x, the 44t and even the new 33t feel like they could do better as part of some promotion, same goes for the 22 10k. I play some of the bigger volume schedules of players and I usually skip the lot of them. I remember you changing the 109 2x to psko and it exploded, why not try and spice these up a little? I could get on board with leaving the 33t as it is as its been doing ok the rest is absolute trashy regfests tho.
Every single time we've put a 6-max version of a tournament up against a 9-max equivalent, the 9-max has been more popular.
Good call on this one. It was changed to 6-max in March 2015.
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Make the first X levels 15 minutes. Even when I used to play late sessions I almost never played the sunday 500 because it'd last until 9am or something silly. I'm not sure how this dynamic level thing is that much different from variable levels, but until it's out a 15min structure until 500/1k or something should help push the tournament along more quickly without hurting the structure much.
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I feel there is a bit of a gap in the schedule for micro stakes Turbo games if you intend on playing from say 10pm-4am UK time. And since this coincides with pub closing times there could be an opportunity to increase volume. And i believe the poker stars Rep said themselves they wanted to work on improving the games for micro stakes players. This would also work well because after 12am UK time there is a MASSIVE drop in volume of all MTSNGS
What about adding a $5.40 Turbo KO Which is a successful line of tournaments but the last one i believe is at 8pm
What about adding a Turbo Bounty Builder from around 9pm-12am, since you have no Turbo formats of these as far as i am aware and i'm sure Regs and Rec alike will be attracted to this
What about adding a $2 2x Turbo rebuy for around this time. As someone already posted you offer about 4 of these games per normal day but they are all within 120 minutes of each other!
What about adding a $5 hyper games between 12am and 3.3am since there are literally none at these stakes at this time
What about adding a $5.40 Turbo KO Which is a successful line of tournaments but the last one i believe is at 8pm
What about adding a Turbo Bounty Builder from around 9pm-12am, since you have no Turbo formats of these as far as i am aware and i'm sure Regs and Rec alike will be attracted to this
What about adding a $2 2x Turbo rebuy for around this time. As someone already posted you offer about 4 of these games per normal day but they are all within 120 minutes of each other!
What about adding a $5 hyper games between 12am and 3.3am since there are literally none at these stakes at this time
Bryan is much better suited to answer, but yes, I believe so.
01-13-2016
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- Stud and Draw week was considered a success. If you have suggestions to make it better, feel free to leave them here. There is a higher chance of repeating that promotion with some improvements than coming up with a new mixed game promotion. That is purely speculation on my end, though.
- I do not think the Daily $27s and Weekly $82/$215s will continue to be red. Yes, it can be argued that they need to be updated, but I do not believe they'll grow very much even if changed. A red tournament lacking participation points to the format. Time slot shuffling would help, though.
- MicroMillions is tentatively planned to run in July.
- Many of your ideas aren't free!
- You're welcome to continue the mixed game discussion, but I'm afraid I won't have much to add until I really dig into the schedule changes.
1) When you ask us to complete challenge(s), please don't give us all-in shootout freeroll tickets but instead give us instant cash rewards.
2) Double the guarantees of all mixed game mtts during the promotion.
3) Difficult challenges like win 2 or dailies/weeklies in a day like I already mentioned before, would be so nice.
4) Ring game offerings(Please forward this to Ring games manager): NL 2-7 SD has min stakes of $0.25/$0.50 - not everybody can afford to play this. You could have added $0.05/$0.10 during the promotion and if they do well, continue offering that stake. Also if possible make them antes.
* Some of the dailies/weeklies are doing decent. Why turn all daily 27s/weeklys 82/215 non red just because of 3-4 variants are not doing well? It would harm them more since that would mean there will be no more sats, no 5k starting stack since they wont be special/red. See if time slot shuffling helps the struggling ones before you do anything else.
* Free ideas like
1) Mentioning 1st prize along with gtd prizepool in these low field daily 27s/weekly 82s. Experiment this in 8game/horse. You have nothing to lose.
2) Change their tourney names. Daily Stud, Daily Badugi, Daily NL 2-7 Single Draw sounds so obvious/boring. Have them named something interesting like All-rounder 8 game, Studious Stud, Breaking Badugi, Draw me Lo, Draw me Hi, Razzamatazz, Game of Limits - HORSE, Know your Limits - Holdem for example.
3) Introduce player badges like - Mixed game Specialist, NL Holdem Specialist, Omaha Specialist - ofcourse this would require development but you wont have to spend as promotion money.
* Mixed game schedule: All I want you is to add 3 tourneys(each from badugi, triple draw, single draw).
Other questions:
1) Will there be red zooms in the future?
$5.1 NLHE Hyper Schedule
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00:30 1K Gtd, 2 max 01:45 PSKO $4K Gtd, 6 max 02:45 $1.5K Gtd 03:45 $1.5K Gtd, 6 max 07:30 $2.5K Gtd 08:30 $3K Gtd 08:45 $3K Gtd 10:45 $4K Gtd, 6 max 11:30 $4K Gtd 13:30 $5K Gtd 14:30 $5K Gtd 16:30 $7K Gtd 17:30 $5K Gtd 22:30 $2.5K Gtd 22:45 $2K Gtd 23:15 $1.5K Gtd, 6 max 23:45 $1.5K Gtd
And 22:30 should move to 20:30 or 21:30 to balance the big gap. You could also make one of them PSKO.
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