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12-10-2018 , 06:29 PM

Gary CHN

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Hi all
It is a waste of time to play mtts such as the mini sunday marathon. Even if I have deep runs it i seemingly impossible to make the final table and get at the big money. I have had a number of top 100 finishes but never final tabled it? POkerstars need more 500 player Cap mtts. 500 is a good number as you need enough players for decent $ but not too many.

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12-10-2018 , 07:37 PM

that_anon_pgc

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Lmk when you have the answer

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12-10-2018 , 09:10 PM

Davesreiberg

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claims he wants to play more 500 person tournaments. registers for the marathon and sunday storm

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12-11-2018 , 04:01 AM

U shove i call

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The bigger the field the higher your ROI is generally but the variance is through the roof of course. Every mtt over 1000 players somebody wins it so doesn't seem impossible to win one.

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12-11-2018 , 05:33 PM

rm81

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Originally Posted by U shove i call

The bigger the field the higher your ROI is generally but the variance is through the roof of course. Every mtt over 1000 players somebody wins it so doesn't seem impossible to win one.

Im not sure about this, yes there are more fish in large fields, but in small fields there is a lot more skill because you are navigating bubble and FT payjumps a high % of the tourney. Where massive fields it is mostly just about chip EV 99% of the tourney.

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12-11-2018 , 05:54 PM

alberthofmann

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Yes unless u win, then not.

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12-12-2018 , 07:13 AM

bearer

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Definitely worthless on Pokerstars given theres no money on the FT anymore bar 1st.

Take your action elsewhere. You won't be able to open fantastically animated $0.04 chests anymore but you'll live.

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12-14-2018 , 02:43 PM

EmilioChekshevez

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its never a waste of time if you enjoy it

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12-15-2018 , 12:52 PM

Billion$Guy

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Originally Posted by bearer

Definitely worthless on Pokerstars given theres no money on the FT anymore bar 1st.

Take your action elsewhere. You won't be able to open fantastically animated $0.04 chests anymore but you'll live.

lol

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12-15-2018 , 11:13 PM

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bumpnrun

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there’s lots of wonderful “elsewhere” options for MTTs

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12-15-2018 , 11:16 PM

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bumpnrun

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Answer to OP is yes it is ...in a way. You will likely need to play serious volume of large field MTTs to make a few decent scores and that is most definitely a sad waste of time/life

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Unless as pointed out ..u enjoy it, but it sounds like you are playing poker to “make money”

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12-15-2018 , 11:28 PM

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Lozgod

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I look at it like playing the lotto where I have control of picking the correct minimum amount of numbers before it pays out. The rest is a lot of luck. October I had 4 1sts in small stakes 100+ players ($3-$7 buy ins rebuys on 888) and even in those it took a few bad beats on my part to do it. From my experience you have to play solid while going on a heater at some point in the tourney. Exploiting players and good pre and post flop play will only take you so far.

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12-16-2018 , 10:10 AM

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bearer

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Originally Posted by EmilioChekshevez

its never a waste of time if you enjoy it

That's not how we define efficiency of time use.

I enjoy beating my meat and watching reaction vids on Youtube.

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12-16-2018 , 08:27 PM

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Speck CHAMP

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Normally I would say no, but with the current payout structure on Pokerstars, it definetly is.

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12-17-2018 , 07:53 PM

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LittleGoliath

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ask veeea

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01-17-2019 , 04:43 PM

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ThatsMySpot

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In a word: yes

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01-17-2019 , 07:35 PM

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GTOslave

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if you put enough volume its not a waste of time becuse you have bigger roi

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12-30-2019 , 02:16 AM

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Colin_Piddle

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Originally Posted by Lozgod

OP is talking about mtts with thousands of players not 100. Massive difference.

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12-30-2019 , 06:19 PM

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freedom 35

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Originally Posted by Speck CHAMP

Normally I would say no, but with the current payout structure on Pokerstars, it definetly is.

This. The pay out structure makes it all a pretty big waste of time on Pokerstars.

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12-31-2019 , 08:39 PM

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Tubi

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Originally Posted by InvestToEarn

I don't think its worth playing mtt's or sng's at all live or online financially.
Cash games on the other hand you can grind out a living live.

5k to 30k in 30 game days

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/1...ments-1757350/

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01-02-2020 , 07:04 PM

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wynner88888

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Originally Posted by bearer

Definitely worthless on Pokerstars given theres no money on the FT anymore bar 1st.

Take your action elsewhere. You won't be able to open fantastically animated $0.04 chests anymore but you'll live.

+1. Rake alone is reason enough.

I only return to Pokerstars for some Series events that I just enjoy playing because, well, they feel like the nuts in MTT world

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01-10-2020 , 12:21 AM

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Lozgod

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Originally Posted by Colin_Piddle

OP is talking about mtts with thousands of players not 100. Massive difference.

I know that. I was saying the ones that big are like winning the lotto. Then I said you even need some luck to win (top 3-5) vs 100+ players. It’s exponentially different in large fields. Jamie Gold won the Main Event.

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02-05-2020 , 07:38 PM

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PhatPots

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nothing to do but ride the wave of variance. You could stick to single table sit n gos or small tournaments if you want.

increasing volume will reduce the variance

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