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Old 03-16-2016, 05:50 AM   #201
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Re: **Official Unibet MTT Discussion Thread**

Don't know if this qualifies as a bug: whenever a 19th player joins in a 9 handed tournament, one of the 18 already registered players and the new player get placed on a new table to play heads up until a 20th player joins (or at least for a while).

In my opinion: when the 19th player registers, the tables should be immediately split to 6-6-7. I don't know if this also happens when the 10th/28th/... player joins, but pretty sure it always happens when the 19th player joins.

In both these tournaments I had to play heads up when there were 19 players in the tournament:

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Old 03-20-2016, 07:54 AM   #202
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Don't know if this qualifies as a bug: whenever a 19th player joins in a 9 handed tournament, one of the 18 already registered players and the new player get placed on a new table to play heads up until a 20th player joins (or at least for a while).

In my opinion: when the 19th player registers, the tables should be immediately split to 6-6-7. I don't know if this also happens when the 10th/28th/... player joins, but pretty sure it always happens when the 19th player joins.

In both these tournaments I had to play heads up when there were 19 players in the tournament:

I'll add a +1 to this. Sometimes it can work in your favour, other times the opposite but I absolutely hate it.
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Old 03-20-2016, 07:58 AM   #203
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I wonder if you might need to reassess the start times of UO satellites as they seem a little sporadic sometimes (for example there are 2 x €2 starting at the same time at, I think, 14.05). I also don't think that tournaments starting five minutes before the hour are a good idea as it means I have to either miss the first hands on that table or get wet legs. I doubt I'm alone on that.

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Old 03-20-2016, 09:22 AM   #204
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Bout the payout structures. I personally dislike topheavy payouts. Ive won my share of tournaments, but the stressimpact is so much higher with topheavy payouts. U allways feel like a loser unless u win it and then the high of that is so big u are wintilted for the next couple days which causes a smaller payout
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Old 03-24-2016, 01:57 PM   #205
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Hello , i didn't followed this topic until now so i posted a suggestion on the other Unibet topic and Andrew suggested i post here , so here it is :

"Should we expect a PLO tournament like the 100E Saturday Stack/Sunday Entitled ? If it will be with qualifiers over the week and the tournament played in the weeekend i'll bet will be a success . I already seen a new PLO tournament which is daily and it's going fine , a weekly one with big entry will work even better . "

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Old 03-24-2016, 06:23 PM   #206
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Maybe you could add satellites where you can win a general MTT ticket to increase the traffic in the somewhat higher stakes.

€2 -> €10
€5 -> €25
Any news on this?
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Old 03-28-2016, 04:57 AM   #207
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Can someone in here give me an idea of unibet MTT rake and if/how it varies by tournament speed and stakes?

I am angered and disappointed by Pokerstars recent conduct, and if unibet rates are better, even if only in some cases, I will make the switch in a heartbeat.

I tried to look here (https://www.unibet.com/help/products...-rake-and-fees) but the page is down
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Old 03-28-2016, 05:37 AM   #208
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Can someone in here give me an idea of unibet MTT rake and if/how it varies by tournament speed and stakes?

I am angered and disappointed by Pokerstars recent conduct, and if unibet rates are better, even if only in some cases, I will make the switch in a heartbeat.

I tried to look here (https://www.unibet.com/help/products...-rake-and-fees) but the page is down
The link is working fine for me but here is a copy and paste.
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MTT (Multi Table Tournament) 10%
€0.90 + €0.10
€3. 60 + €0.40
€9.00 + €1.00
€22.50 + €2.50
€45.00 + €5.00
€90.00 + €10.00
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It is the same for both turbo and normal speeds.
3% for the 1minute blind MTTs ("deep crazy").
1% for ante MTT.

I am not sure if the 'multibuyin' MTTs are raked for each stack you get.

The games are a lot softer and the fields a lot smaller than on Pokerstars. So you can expect less variance even though the rake is the same for normal/turbo speed.

I would recommend that you at least give it a try but it depends what type of player you are and what you are looking for.
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Old 03-28-2016, 09:26 AM   #209
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The link is working fine for me but here is a copy and paste...

Thank you, Oldburf. I appreciate you taking the time. i have just realized why the link wouldn't work for me. I'm currently in Australia...
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Old 03-31-2016, 03:25 PM   #210
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Maybe it's an idea to add a €25 turbo MTT (200 gtd or something) around 19:00-20:00 BST.

Also a €50 UO Turbo (1 €250 ticket gtd) one or two hours before the Sunday UO final would be great. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the daily €50 UO sats seem to get more players than they used to.
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Old 04-03-2016, 01:50 PM   #211
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No tournaments on Unibet today? The whole lobby is empty / won't load, no restarts or anything help. Cash games work normally. Wtf?
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Old 04-06-2016, 06:26 AM   #212
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Are 0.50 MTTs ever going to happen?

I like the fact the site is designed around keep rec players involved but it seems very difficult to play MTTs (Or SNGs) with any kind of bankroll management unless you're depositing more than 100 euros. Introducing a lower buy-in, even at SNG level would seem to make sense as a way to keep players on the site.
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Old 04-06-2016, 08:07 AM   #213
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Hi Guys, a bit later than normal - have been very busy lately. Thanks for understanding

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Maybe you could add satellites where you can win a general MTT ticket to increase the traffic.

€2 -> €10
€5 -> €25

And I think moving the Oh My Omaha to sunday 18:00-19:00 would be way better.

Also props to the Sunday Entitled, loving it.
Regarding the generic qualifiers, I will have a look into the Step-it up games we run, which pay out in cash and see if there is room for similar with tickets instead.

Very good suggestion about the €500 GTD Oh My Omaha. That tournament has been there for a long while I believe and wasn’t touched till now. After today it will run on the Sundays at 19:00 UTC/ 20:00 BST/ 21:00 CEST. I increased the starting stack, decreased the blind level length, removed the multibuy option and changed it into a progressive bounty format.

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I actually mentioned this to UnibetAndrew while he was in Finland, but he might have forgotten it as it was quite a wet night. Here's my suggestion:

A special tournament, maybe daily or weekly. 4€ buy-in, semiturbo structure with 200€ guaranteed with a special jackpot: if you hit Royal Flush using both of your hand cards, you win Unibet Open package. It's very hard to hit, but a prize would be even better for small investment in otherwise regular tournament. It could also give some UO ticket to winner like 10€ or 25€ one.

About the satellites, I think 1 - 4 - 10 - 25 would be very hard to beat if rake would be same 10% in them. Drop it 5% in satellites and support ecology.
Funny, I was thinking about more jackpot tournaments last night. I will discuss it with the team and see if there are options.

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Don't know if this qualifies as a bug: whenever a 19th player joins in a 9 handed tournament, one of the 18 already registered players and the new player get placed on a new table to play heads up until a 20th player joins (or at least for a while).

In my opinion: when the 19th player registers, the tables should be immediately split to 6-6-7. I don't know if this also happens when the 10th/28th/... player joins, but pretty sure it always happens when the 19th player joins.

In both these tournaments I had to play heads up when there were 19 players in the tournament:

I think what happened here, is that one hand is played HU with only two players visible. When tables are formed and you are in a hand, you will play with less players than expected. A way around is to fill up the table and exclude the others from playing in that moment.

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I wonder if you might need to reassess the start times of UO satellites as they seem a little sporadic sometimes (for example there are 2 x €2 starting at the same time at, I think, 14.05). I also don't think that tournaments starting five minutes before the hour are a good idea as it means I have to either miss the first hands on that table or get wet legs. I doubt I'm alone on that.

Thanks.
I agree, the schedule has been looking a bit sporadic. I have made changed to the schedule which will be active from April the 7th.
- No games starting 5 minutes before the hour;
- Times and days certain games run are more consistent;
- Added €50 Turbo before the finals.


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Bout the payout structures. I personally dislike topheavy payouts. Ive won my share of tournaments, but the stressimpact is so much higher with topheavy payouts. U allways feel like a loser unless u win it and then the high of that is so big u are wintilted for the next couple days which causes a smaller payout
We will always try to find a balance between the payout options.
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Hello , i didn't followed this topic until now so i posted a suggestion on the other Unibet topic and Andrew suggested i post here , so here it is :

"Should we expect a PLO tournament like the 100E Saturday Stack/Sunday Entitled ? If it will be with qualifiers over the week and the tournament played in the weeekend i'll bet will be a success . I already seen a new PLO tournament which is daily and it's going fine , a weekly one with big entry will work even better . "

Thanks !
We have been talking about this as well and in the (near) future we might add such a game. For now the €500 Oh my Omaha has been moved to the Sunday and plays as a 6 seat €25 bounty, every Sunday at 19:00 UTC/ 20:00 BST/ 21:00 CEST

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Maybe it's an idea to add a €25 turbo MTT (200 gtd or something) around 19:00-20:00 BST.

Also a €50 UO Turbo (1 €250 ticket gtd) one or two hours before the Sunday UO final would be great. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the daily €50 UO sats seem to get more players than they used to.
From today on we will run a €250 GTD Turbo Deepstack, €25 buy-in at 19:30 UTC/ 20:30 BST/ 21:30 CEST.
There will run €50 Turbo satellites to the €250 UO Final on Wednesday 17:25 UTC and Sunday 17:05 UTC.
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No tournaments on Unibet today? The whole lobby is empty / won't load, no restarts or anything help. Cash games work normally. Wtf?
Andrew has replied to this issue here:
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=14614
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Are 0.50 MTTs ever going to happen?

I like the fact the site is designed around keep rec players involved but it seems very difficult to play MTTs (Or SNGs) with any kind of bankroll management unless you're depositing more than 100 euros. Introducing a lower buy-in, even at SNG level would seem to make sense as a way to keep players on the site.
I will forward your feedback and discuss it within the team. We are known for our soft games, so perhaps one won’t need as much as a roll than elsewhere, but that is player dependent and personal preference.

BTW updated tournament schedule can be found here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...sa4/edit#gid=0
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Old 04-06-2016, 10:56 AM   #214
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Props for the changes UnibetRep!
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Old 04-07-2016, 01:46 AM   #215
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Can you guys come up with some leaderboard types of promotions? I think you had some earlier when I didn't actively play on your site yet, but I'd love to take part now. Like, have one *special* tournament every day for 1-2 weeks with slightly varying buyins and formats, award points to top 20 or whatever. You could even just put a bunch of tournament tickets as prizes, I feel like that kind of stuff creates a positive buzz and attracts people.

Also have you thought of the idea of coming up with your own tournament series? I know you don't have a lot of customers, and so maybe you'd have to have it at lower stakes than usual, but that's a surefire way to attract more people. Pretty much every site has one (Ongame probably has less players than you do and even they have their NYX gaming series now), and while you guys are doing the against the stream approach (which is good when it comes to most things imo) I can't think of a single reason not to do this.

I think you have (had?) Unibet Open onlines or something, but those were pretty dumb because they were just single HS tourneys with bad guarantees that weren't really a series. But why not create something like "Unibet Open mini series" that would run right before or after every live Unibet Open. You could then cross market them, advertise the bejesus out of the online series in the live stream for UO and hand out flyers, maybe create a leaderboard for the online series with the winner winning a package to the next UO, and give tickets to some 10€ Unibet Open mini online event for everyone who fails to cash in the Unibet Open live or something as a consolation, you know the drill.

Currently your live tournament series is very popular and your online is struggling, it seems like a no-brainer to do something like the above. Your live series has a very good image and players love it, I think it's the best tournament series there is and has been for a long time, and there's so much wasted potential when it comes to attracting players when you only feed online players to the UO but not the other way 'round.
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Old 04-07-2016, 07:23 AM   #216
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I think what happened here, is that one hand is played HU with only two players visible. When tables are formed and you are in a hand, you will play with less players than expected. A way around is to fill up the table and exclude the others from playing in that moment.
Would make sense if it was only for 1 hand, but I've had multiple times where I had to play 10 or more hands heads-up (while the other tables were playing 8 and 9 handed) before more people joined the table.
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Old 04-08-2016, 06:06 AM   #217
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Can you guys come up with some leaderboard types of promotions? I think you had some earlier when I didn't actively play on your site yet, but I'd love to take part now. Like, have one *special* tournament every day for 1-2 weeks with slightly varying buyins and formats, award points to top 20 or whatever. You could even just put a bunch of tournament tickets as prizes, I feel like that kind of stuff creates a positive buzz and attracts people.

Also have you thought of the idea of coming up with your own tournament series? I know you don't have a lot of customers, and so maybe you'd have to have it at lower stakes than usual, but that's a surefire way to attract more people. Pretty much every site has one (Ongame probably has less players than you do and even they have their NYX gaming series now), and while you guys are doing the against the stream approach (which is good when it comes to most things imo) I can't think of a single reason not to do this.

I think you have (had?) Unibet Open onlines or something, but those were pretty dumb because they were just single HS tourneys with bad guarantees that weren't really a series. But why not create something like "Unibet Open mini series" that would run right before or after every live Unibet Open. You could then cross market them, advertise the bejesus out of the online series in the live stream for UO and hand out flyers, maybe create a leaderboard for the online series with the winner winning a package to the next UO, and give tickets to some 10€ Unibet Open mini online event for everyone who fails to cash in the Unibet Open live or something as a consolation, you know the drill.

Currently your live tournament series is very popular and your online is struggling, it seems like a no-brainer to do something like the above. Your live series has a very good image and players love it, I think it's the best tournament series there is and has been for a long time, and there's so much wasted potential when it comes to attracting players when you only feed online players to the UO but not the other way 'round.
online tournament related (leaderboard) promos
DEC:
https://www.unibet.eu/promotions/pok...-mtt-leagues-3
March:
https://www.unibet.eu/promotions/pok...ounty-badlands
Jan, Feb and starting 11 April
https://www.unibet.eu/promotions/pok...ankroll-series
Thanks for sharing your idea about creating something bigger tied to the Unibet Open, which we’d like very much.
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Would make sense if it was only for 1 hand, but I've had multiple times where I had to play 10 or more hands heads-up (while the other tables were playing 8 and 9 handed) before more people joined the table.
I will report this for investigation, whenever you get in the situation where you have to play more than two hands like you mentioned, could you send me a pm with the tournament details please.
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Old 04-08-2016, 07:41 AM   #218
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Hi UnibetRep,

Is your software capable of spreading other games? Specifically, Omaha hi/lo is a game that is just as popular as PLO on Pokerstars. If this game was spread, players including myself would consider moving some of our action to Unibet.
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I don't really like that 27 promo leaderboard. They are not really tied together, you just have to win one tournament to enter some dumb tournament in which 18% get even paid. Take a look at Winamax leaderboard stuff for example, they are insanely popular and that's why their tournaments do so well. People want to earn points even if they don't win and be rewarded for consistency, that's what makes them come back and play a little bit more. But if you make a tournament series where the catch is that the winner also gets a ticket to some thing where you can maybe win some more it's not anywhere near as attractive. I doubt anyone thinks like "hey, if I win this, how AWESOME would that be, because I'd also get a ticket for some thing in 3 weeks where if I run good I may cash something more!". I mean sure, that'd work if it was some 1M gtd so that would actually be exciting, but 4k GTD with 18% getting paid is nowhere near exciting enough to look forward to for weeks. I understand you have limited resources, and that 4k would be so much better spent creating a top5 or top10 paid leaderboard instead. And half those prizes could easily be Unibet Open online final tickets or something like that which I assume would be further beneficial for you.

edit: The more I think about it the more terrible this promotion is IMO, especially from a recreational point of view. I mean come on, the added bonus here is a freeroll ticket, and to get even that you have to *win* a tournament. You know how hard it is to win a tournament, how much luck it takes? I'm sure most recs think they're the unluckiest in the world because they almost never win. So a chance to also get a *drumroll* freeroll ticket if they happen to win a massive flipfest is not an incentive at all. Look at Ongame, their regular 20€ tournament at 6PM GMT is 100€ gtd. 5 people. Yet they are running a 20€ 4000GTD today. Why? Because their Nyx leaderboard awards points to the top 50. I think maybe top50 is too much personally, but point being, people want a chance to be rewarded for consistency and to get something even if they do well and don't win. That's how leaderboards should work, this 27 thing is just a waste of promotional budget imo. Whatever numbers these things get I'm sure you'd beat them doing this differently.

I don't mean to sound harsh, as I've posted before I really want your site to strive, but I feel rather strongly about this one.

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Is your software capable of spreading other games? Specifically, Omaha hi/lo is a game that is just as popular as PLO on Pokerstars. If this game was spread, players including myself would consider moving some of our action to Unibet.
In the main thread:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...hread-1452899/

they have said that they are considering introducing PLO8 as the next game. No idea what the ETA is on that though.
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Old 04-08-2016, 05:18 PM   #221
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Hi UnibetRep,

Played the new 25e turbo deepstack; fun tournament and great structure. However, there were 12 people by the end of late reg and only 2 places paid. IMO it should be 3 people paid at 10 players let alone 11 or 12.

I think this could hinder the chances of the tournament becoming more popular
and may be a reason why other tournaments such as the 50 euro don't get more players.
I understand there is the issue with people exploiting late reg but they are still at a disadvantage compared to the bigger stacks, also to prevent this you could dial back the late reg time.

Andrew talks about "player journeys" and I think anybody arriving late in the 10th/11th/12th spots may be disappointed when they join just to get eliminated by the massive stack. While the people who are in from the start at 2nd/3rd in chips
may feel disappointed if they bust just before the money.

The prizepool was 270e
1st: 180e 66%
2nd: 90e 33%

could be split to something like:
1st:145e 55%
2nd:85e 30%
3rd:40e 15%

In a 9 man its usually 50/30/20. 55/30/15 is still more top heavy than the 9 man and the lower 3rd % here could help deter late reg exploitation, while also providing more of an incentive to play for lesser skilled players. The threshold for 3 players paid just needs bringing down a bit.

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I have to somewhat agree with ChuckBass that the "27 Tourney Series" needs a bit of tweaking in regards to the leaderboard.

I'd love to see UO tickets/package being included.
Is it possible to run a freeroll for the winners while also letting the consistent winners (say top 6) get to play a SNG for a UO package?

For me and I'm sure a lot of others the current format just isn't enticing enough for me to play them.
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Is your software capable of spreading other games? Specifically, Omaha hi/lo is a game that is just as popular as PLO on Pokerstars. If this game was spread, players including myself would consider moving some of our action to Unibet.
Hey James,

Make the move already. I've been here for 8 months or so and haven't even considered moving back. I know you love the niche games but overall I can promise you that you'll be happy on Unibet. (insert refer a friend bonus )
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I have to somewhat agree with ChuckBass that the "27 Tourney Series" needs a bit of tweaking in regards to the leaderboard.

I'd love to see UO tickets/package being included.
Is it possible to run a freeroll for the winners while also letting the consistent winners (say top 6) get to play a SNG for a UO package?

For me and I'm sure a lot of others the current format just isn't enticing enough for me to play them.
Like the idea of a 6 man SNG for a package but think it would be fun if 2nd got 20% equity in any win from the UO game and 3rd got 10%

Rather than a winner takes all.
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Old 04-09-2016, 09:38 AM   #225
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If I click the promo link on the 27series in the software I get directed to this https://www.unibet.de/promotions/pok...ankroll-series

where I can see when in january these games run.
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